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FSN 20 9.15 a.m. 21 June 2001
Before we take an in-depth look at the BBC's
Fantasy Tennis competition for the Wimbledon fortnight, a quick word about the
Telegraph Fantasy Cricket season and what's to come from FISO over the next
month or so.
I have to say I am finding the Telegraph
Fantasy Cricket competition (reviewed here)
thoroughly enjoyable. Jed Pitman and the team have put together a package that
really works well. The double points for games that you have a good chance of
watching at least a part of (assuming you subscribe to Sky etc), have really
added to the TV coverage. The milestones of getting away from a duck, reaching a
century or taking a 5 wicket haul also introduce pressure points for you, the
watcher, particularly in these double point games and even more so where it is
your captain who is in play. My top team of 4 was placed 19th as published last
Friday and with the number of ducks suffered over the last week is sure to drop
out of the top 10 (for the time being!). The first few weeks of this 19 week
competition have been exciting and I sincerely hope everyone else that entered
has enjoyed the TFC format. To those that didn't then you've missed out!
Coming up on FISO over the next month should
be a) a chat with Tony Murnaghan one of Ireland's top fantasy sports players and
a name you'll often see on the leader board b) an interview with Mark Nunn whose
team Hotshots FC finished 3rd to me in the 2000/01 TPLO season c) news from Mark
Maydon , Group Digital Director for News Group Digital, on The Sun's Dream Team
competition - review of 2000/01 and news of developments for 2001/02 - d) an
update on premierwin and e) a round up of new fantasy sports submissions to FISO
over the past month.
Now on to our main piece for today, Fantasy
Tennis - Wimbledon 2001 brought to you by the BBC and Fantasy League Limited - http://bbctennis.fantasyleague.co.uk/
You know this should be a good game as soon
as you see that Fantasy League Limited have set the game up for the BBC. The
format has that look and feel of the Fantasy League quality and I'm hoping this
leads to a trouble free fortnight. No doubt there are going to be a large number
of entries due to the profile of the BBC and the winner will be rightly
proud of beating off the competition.
Right, a quick summary of the main rules:
1. Entry deadline 11.45am Monday 25 June;
2. Select 4 men and 4 women from the list of
50 men and 50 women but ensure you're not spending more than £100,000 in total
for the 8 players (P.S. Players range from £50,000 (Sampras) down to £1,000);
3. There are no transfers - seems sensible
as it is only a one-off 2 week competition;
4. Accumulate points as your players
progress, win by 1, 2 or 3 sets, beat a seeded player (if unseeded) and beat a
higher seed (if seeded) - to win I suspect you're going to have to pick at least 1
of the finalists for both the mens and ladies finals and if a cheap player gets
to the semis you're going to need to have had him in your team so look for that
5. Prize winners receive excellent tennis
coaching session, tickets to A Question of Sport and autographed Sweatshirt.
There are also prizes for the top scoring manager of each of the two weeks of
6. Free to enter;
7. Only one team per manager.
Oh and there's an excellent 'Challenge A
Mate' automated email that you can whack off to taunt your friends!
Looks like enjoyable fun!
For full details and rules go to the website.
If in just over two weeks time we have a
winner from the FISO subscriber base then do let me know.
FSN 19 8.00am 6 June 2001
Today's newsletter should be of particular interest to Telegraph fans for we caught up
with Jed Pitman last week who looks after The Telegraph's Fantasy Sports
games and does the 'write up' on Wednesdays (Football) and Fridays (Cricket).
Jed was kind enough to spend time with us answering our numerous questions.
Jed answered questions A) Generally about The Telegraph's Fantasy Sports,
B) Telegraph Fantasy Football, C) Telegraph Fantasy Cricket and D) about himself.
Questions on the Telegraph's Fantasy Sports programme, answered by Games
Consultant, Jed Pitman:
A) GENERAL QUESTIONS:
1. What different fantasy sports games do the Telegraph run and which are
your most popular in terms of entry numbers?
Telegraph Fantasy Football (restarts August 2001), Telegraph Fantasy
Cricket. On occasions there are smaller fantasy based games for specific
competitions such as World Cups, Ryder Cup etc. We have just finished a game
called Zurich Rugby Challenge.
2. When were the respective games introduced?
TFF (then Telegraph fantasy league) was introduced in 1994, the cricket game
a year later.
3. Have you seen an increasing number of people playing them over the years?
The best year was 1995 when 360,00 individual managers entered the footy and
170,000 played the cricket game. The numbers diminished slightly but have
increased again over the last couple of years to around 275,000 and 90,000.
4. What do you think The Telegraph has to offer over other newspapers that
run fantasy sports games?
The best games offer managers more value for money; such as free magazines,
confirmation of teams and transfers and now the ability to make transfers on
the internet. The weekly page also offers more information than other
5. Can you give us any figures in general on the ages/sex of people playing?
Not exactly, although the large majority are between 25-45 and male.
6. Why do you think people like to play The Telegraph's fantasy sports
They are great fun, reflect the real games well and truly offer managers a
real test of their knowledge of the sports, particularly when making
transfers which, to do well, is the crucial part of the game.
7. Are you looking at introducing any new competitions over the next couple
There will, as ever, be games for particular competitions but football and
cricket remain the main ones.
8. How do you think the recent internet transfer ability has gone down with
Very well. Transfers increased enormously to well over a million due the
ease of making them.
9. Are there any areas in general that you are addressing to add to the
interactive nature of the games?
Not really. These are newspaper games and promotions too. We cannot put the
scores online as this negates the need for people to purchase the paper,
which remains the main reason for running these games. It is not to make
B) QUESTIONS ON TPL - reviewed by FISO here:
10. Which year was TPL first launched and what do you think your game offers
over other fantasy football competitions?
1994. More info, more value for money.
11. How many teams take part and how many do you hope to sign up next year?
Do you know how many individuals take part?
280,000. We are always after more but the most important statistic is the
impact on circulation on Wednesdays. Around 200,000 individuals take part.
12. What do you think of the fantasy football games run by the other
The Sun's game doesn't offer the manager enough except for the huge prize.
The Times' is now run by Fantasy League and is therefore similar to the game
in the Telegraph originally. I'm not aware of what the Times offers their
managers in terms of confirmation of teams etc, a vital component of the
Telegraph game. Personally, I think the copy in the Times is dull and
concentrates too heavily on the performances of individual teams, ignoring
the thousands of others involved in the game. All other papers have tended
to drop their games over the years because they didn't do enough to support
13. Can you give our readers some detail on the number of people and
companies in the team that look after and run the game and the roles they
The game is run by the promotions/marketing department at the Telegraph,
headed by Steve Stiles. I'm involved as a games consultant and prior to the
launch of each game we discuss changes to the game and how the managers can
benefit more. Two or three members of the handling house, GFM, based in
Colchester are also involved. The game is scored by GFM who also supply the
statistics for the weekly page, which is written and edited by me.
14. We see in the TPL guide to the 2000/01 football season the following
people/companies are mentioned in the TPL First XI. What role do they each
play in the TPL team?
First XI: Simon Clays, Simon Wallis, Mark Pettit, you, Action Images, Cormac
Bourne, Joi Chuku, Mike Skyte, Julia Bell, Robert Bright, Allsport Images
and Steve Stiles.
The mag was put together in conjunction with FourFourTwo magazine and the
majority of the names work for them. Allsport are picture providers, Mark
Pettit works for GFM and is the main scorer. Steve Stiles works in the
sports marketing dept at the Telegraph and has overall responsibility for
15. Who decided that Lauren was the player to watch from Arsenal? Ditto re
Zuniga from Coventry and Paul Thirlwell from Sunderland.
FourFourTwo had total editorial control of the magazine with the exception
of the ad and stats pages.
16. What made you choose 24 transfers for the season?
Too many put people off, too few means the game is all over all too quickly
for many. This was seen as a happy medium with the introduction of internet
17. Who decides on the player valuations?
Me, Mark and Steve.
18. Many competitions restrict the number of players from each club. TPL
does not do that. Why not?
It was decided two years ago that people were not entering teams because it
was taking too long to select a team due to the restrictions of formation,
price and players from each club. They wanted to play but it was just too
much hassle. I believed that one had to go and this was the most obvious
choice. I never worked out the need for it in the first place. You have to
be aware of accusations of dumbing down, though. I don't think we did and
the numbers of teams has risen since the rule was changed.
19. The Super League facility seems a useful facility and helpful
particularly as not everyone wants to keep a note of his or her score. Whose
idea was it to introduce it?
Mine, Fantasy League and a company called CBH, an advertising agency which
handled the game in its early years (I used to work for them, which is where
my involvement came in).
20. Do you ever have any difficulty in determining assists or do you use an
outside source for the data?
They are based on TV coverage and newspaper reports. They are almost always
correct. Key contributions replaced assists to make it slightly more
21. Have you considered setting up a 'Champions League' system whereby, say,
the top 10 managers from each season are allowed to compete in a separate
mini-league each following season, with the winner receiving a prize for
being the Champion of the Champions?
No, but it's a nice idea.
22. Are there any introductions you plan to make which tie the fantasy game
further in with the real-life EPL?
No, in fact the Telegraph's sponsorship of the Premiership has now ended.
23. Do you have any future developments or advances for TPL that you are
working on or intend to introduce next year?
Wait and see.
24. Who were the big winners in TPL for 2000/01? And do you know how they
coped in the run up to the season finale?
Steve Austin won the game with a team co-managed by his colleague. They won
the game by concentrating on fixtures, thus ensuring they got the maximum
opportunity to score points each week. I think they had a lot of sleepless
25. Do you think the FA should ban from the EPL Swedish players whose names
end in ....SSON!
No, it lead to a running gag throughout the season with ssonssonsson being
used. We even made Private Eye who thought it was a spelling error.
26. Is there any advice you can give our readers who want to do well in TPL
Concentrate on the fixtures and make your transfers accordingly.
C) QUESTIONS ON TFC - reviewed by FISO here:
27. When was Telegraph Fantasy Cricket first run?
28. How many teams and individuals have entered the 2001 competition?
29. How many Super League teams have entered?
Just over 800
30. Who decided on the player ratings?
Me and Mark Pettit.
31. What was the idea behind double points for tests and the latter stages
of certain competitions?
Test cricket and later one-day games are the ones which create interest for
more than just the cricket aficionado.
32. Whose idea was introducing a nominated captain who scores double?
33. Why was 12 transfers decided upon?
See football answer. The season is half as long.
34. We thought the individual player write up in the Telegraph Fantasy
Cricket's guide to the season was spot on. Who wrote it?
35. You got to meet David Graveney when putting that guide together to see
how the England team was selected. What were your impressions of him?
I've known David for several years and have to say that he was of the best
at dealing with the media.
36. Has David Graveney entered a fantasy cricket team?
No. I think he feels that it would compromise his position.
37. Have you met other famous sportsmen during your job?
Lots, too many to mention. But my favourite would be Alan Hansen, I used to
write as Alan Handsome in the TPL game and he was a quite a fan. Geoff
Boycott also contacted me over my Geoffrey Trueman character.
38. Who do you think will be the top scoring player in each position at the
end of the season?
Batsman: Thorpe Keeper: Stewart: All rounder: Irani Bowler: Caddick. But
what do I know?
39. The holiday prize sounds pretty special. Are The Telegraph paying for
that or did they find a sponsor?
We are paying for it. It was viewed as better than £10,000 cash which can be
40. Who do you think will win the Ashes and what will the Test score be?
Australia 3-1 with one draw but God, I hope I'm wrong.
D) QUESTIONS ABOUT JED:
41. Tell us about yourself.
I'm 35, married, 3 kids, live in Sherston in Wiltshire. Born in Nottingham,
support Notts County and Notts CCC.
42. What job title do you have and are you employed directly by The
I am a games consultant and am officially an outside supplier for the
Telegraph. I am also Head of Sport at HTV in Bristol and commentate on
cricket on Cricinfo.com.
43. How long have you been working on The Telegraph's fantasy sports games?
Six years. I am the longest serving person.
44. Do you play any fantasy sports games yourself and, if so, which ones?
All of them, although I can't win any prizes.
45. What are you typical duties in an average week?
I write the page each week and decide what stats/ charts should be in. I
gather the info from GFM and then write and rewrite many of the bad gags.
46. Do you have many emails to deal with each day from people with questions
or problems with the game and what was the strangest email?
Yes, although I pass most game queries on to our reader relations dept. I
get too many weird ones for any to stand out.
47. Have you ever missed an editorial for the fantasy sports page?
Not one in 6 years. I even write the stuff on holiday or when I'm working
48. How did you first get involved in Fantasy Football?
I was employed by CBH, an advertising agency who employed me as a
copywriter. The Telegraph was one of their clients. I was employed for one
day and am still doing it now.
49. Who do you think the best real-life football manager is?
Ferguson (no boos please).
50. What is your opinion on the England manager situation?
They seem to have it right now.
51. Do you think Beckham's haircut should have a bearing on his position as
Not at all.
52. Who do you think should be England captain (regardless of haircuts)?
Does it really matter? I'm never sure what a football captain does.
53. Can anyone stop Manchester United next year?
Notts County. In my dreams.
54. If you could only pick one goalkeeper, one defender, one midfielder and
one striker for a Premiership fantasy team (with no restrictions) who would
Barthez, Harte, Beckham and Owen.
55. Where were you when England trounced Holland in Euro 1996 and when
England lost to Argentina on penalties in the World Cup 1998?
In the Sports Cafe in the Haymarket and in a bar in Bow.
56. Which football player do you think will be the top scorer in TPL next
57. What do you do in your spare time to relax?
I don't have any spare time but anything to do with cricket which is my
58. If there was one rule in football that you could change what would it
Anything which would lead to more goals, there are too many dull games.
Many thanks again to Jed for taking the time to answer our questions!
FSN 18 9am 30 May 2001
Feeling lost? At a loose end? Well cheer up, there's only 80 days to go
before the start of the 2001/02 EPL season!
Tell you what, forget about football! There are some great fantasy golf
and fantasy cricket
games about, why not try them
instead over the summer?
If you do just play fantasy football then there are plenty of good
simulation games or if you
just like the real life games then have you highlighted some possible picks
for your teams next season based on end of season form? This is always a
sensible move - it is hard to remember how players were performing when it
comes to the last minute rush of submitting teams in August.
Telegraph Premier League Online - reviewed by FISO here:
I know there are a good number of TPLO players who subscribe to this
newsletter so I have set out below the team and transfers that won TPLO with
2,058 points. I thought I had half a chance of winning it last year
(finished 39th) but got very lucky this year leading TPLO all the way from
December, so for those out there who play TPLO; keep trying and I hope the
information below might help you improve on your tactics. I look forward to
doing battle with you all again next year!
The TPLO winning team - managed by Chris King of FISO:
GK1: Westerveld (Liv)
GK2: Barthez (MU) sold 5/9/00 for Martyn (Lee) who was then sold 22/10/00
for James (AV)
FB1: Harte (Lee)
FB2: Silvinho (Ars)
FB3: Babbel (Liv) sold 6/11/00 for Delap (Der)
CB1: Keown (Ars)
CB2: Campbell (TOT) sold 22/10/00 for Southgate (AV)
CB3: Stam (MU) sold 5/9/00 for Rowett (Lei)
Mid1: Smicer (Liv)
Mid2: Magilton (Ips)
Mid3: Horlock (MC) sold 5/9/00 for Beckham (MU)
Mid 4: Anderton (TOT) sold 6/9/00 for Stuart (Cha)
Mid 5: Kennedy (MC) sold 6/11/00 for Kinkladze (Der) who was sold 16/12/00
for Beattie (Sou)
Mid6: Dyer (New) sold 03/03/01 for Gronkjaer (Che)
Att1: Hasselbaink (Che)
Att2: Henry (Ars)
Att3: Owen (Liv)
Att4: Zola (Che) sold 5/9/00 for Ferdinand (TOT) who was sold 10/4/01 for
Commentary on the above team and transfers:
Basically I feel that the strikers got me in the top 100 and the rest of the
team managed to get me to the top of that pile. If you didn't have
Hasselbaink and Henry then you would struggle. Owen did very well at the
start and luckily I kept hold of him because he caught fire again near the
end. One of my crucial 'starman' selections was changing my mind from
Hasselbaink to Les Ferdinand on the day Jimmy got sent off and Les scored a
hat-trick. Stewart was only bought near the end to protect myself from those
close by because it was quite obvious most had him.
I think most midfielders were sold because of injury except for Kinkladze
who I realised soon after buying that I should have gone for Beattie
instead. Bit the bullet and used up an extra transfer to get Beattie in but
had partly missed the boat by then. Beckham was brought in because it was
quite obvious after the start of the season that I needed him or would be
Rowett was brought in because he was really a full back even though
classified as a Centre Back and Leicester were doing very well defensively.
Delap was brought in because I felt Derby, who'd had a terrible time, would
start to get some clean sheets. This was pretty much my only intuitive
transfer but as it was keeping Babbel would have done me just as well given
his late season form. Keeping Harte until O'Leary saw sense and put him back
in Leeds' team was also a good move but I nearly ran out of patience.
Campbell was ditched due to injury.
Really don't remember why I was messing about with the goalkeepers early on
although I do know Martyn got injured. I suspect I needed to sell Barthez
and get a cheaper keeper to accommodate the other 5/9/00 transfers.
So as you can see I was quite lucky in picking a good number of the main
season points scorers at the start and really I could have made a lot better
job of many of the transfers. Very surprised to be the only person over
Chris King - FISO
FSN 17 3.15 p.m. 19 May 2001
With the final games of the EPL season about to get underway we
take a close look at the major fantasy football title races.
Seems like a straight battle between defending champion Andy
Luckhurst's top 5 teams and Dave Watson the pretender to Andy's crown. To
assist in the excitement FISO have published their team line ups per below.
Dave Watson - Wineracks (1024 points):
eddie woo 1(1034) eddie woo(1026)eddie woo4 (1022)
eddie woo3 (1020) woo again2
The best of luck to Andy and Dave - whilst Andy is undoubtedly
favourite it could still go either way. The prizes are allocated per manager
in SFF so Dave is in 2nd place regardless that Andy has two teams above him.
Fantasy League Limited:
Star of the show in Fantasy League's Solo Game at
is undoubtedly Jesper Pedersen. His side, North Darkmore United, are not only
assured of winning the main Solo Championship (entering the final week of the
season an amazing 40 points clear), but have also seemingly secured victory in
the Magnificient Seven competition as well
as competing in the final of the Champions League.
With some 19,500 managers now taking part in the competition,
Jesper's feat is unlikely to ever happen again, but the Danish fantasist
insists that his success is all down to luck.
The Solo UEFA Cup Final also takes place this weekend with
"The Pornstars" taking on "The Derwent Misses", with both
managers fresh from witnessing one of the most incredible European matches in
Dortmund on Wednesday evening as part of their prize.
Daily Telegraph Newspaper Competition:
The top 3 managers and their team line ups in the race to the
£50,000 first prize are as follows:
A J Rooke T
(1295 points) (1280 points)
Babbel Babbel Clapham
My final team which leads the competition on 2019 points before
today has a line up as follows:
With a lead of 73 points, I sincerely hope the real battle is
for the second and third places where Mr Sumner holds a 4 point lead from Mr
Nunn with the 4th placed team only 4 points further back. There are only
prizes for the top 3.
The Times - Fantasy League
This is extremely close with Alec Johnson (456 points), Chris
Billinghurst (451), Andrew Jago (450), Chris Evans (447) and John Harris (445)
making up the top 5.
Best of luck to all competitors and many thanks to the
gamesmasters who run the competitions which we all enjoy!
FSN 16 9.00 a.m. 17 May 2001
Now we will have no more of that!
4-4 after normal time indeed, that's a 60+ point game in TPLO terms. I'm
sure all those players currently leading their fantasy football competitions
will have had their pulses racing with the thoughts of similar games at the
weekend. Great advert for football though but have Liverpool now used up all
their luck for the season and will this allow Leeds or Ipswich to pip them
at the post in the EPL?
We've had a few newsletters this week so I apologise if your inbox is
feeling overcrowded but it is the climax of the season for EPL games. You
will be left in peace tomorrow as I'm on a golf day all day but we might
manage a further newsletter on Saturday.
Following on from FISO's interview last week with Andy Luckhurst, the
defending champion of Sky's Football Fantasia, Chris King of FISO talks to
Andy's major threat this year, Dave Watson who is currently in second with
his team Wineracks.
Incidentally, FISO is in talks with both of them to see whether FISO can
publish their top teams on our website as soon as the 2 p.m. SFF transfer
deadline has passed on Saturday. Gamesmasters should consider this type of
innovation to add to the excitement of the final day's games for the leaders
and to ease any sleepless nights for the day or so afterwards. (I know the
Original Fantasy League allow you to see opponents teams but that is
throughout the season).
Anyway, on to Dave:
1. Hi Dave, when did you first get into fantasy sports and which fantasy
sports games (online or newspapers) do you play or have done well at in the
I dabbled in various newspaper and office competitions in the last decade.I
have spent more time on internet competitions over the last couple of years.
I won the Sky Golf last year after showing up for a long way the year
before. I actually lead the Sky F1 after the first race - but have faded
since, it's not my favourite competition.
2. When did you first play Sky's Football Fantasia (SFF) and how has your
season gone this year?
This is my first year in and it could not have gone much better. I carried
some luck early on (as a Newcastle fan I'm not proud of putting Ray Parlour
in the day he scored a hat trick against us at Highbury) - and established a
lead by December which it took Andy until the end of March to claw back.
Since then I have been hanging on a bit, but I've got his lead back to 10
points with one to play.
3. Is SFF you favourite game (if not, what is?) and what do you particularly
like about it?
Yes - I just prefer it to their golf comp. I like the fact that they update
the scores very quickly and the revaluation scheme adds an extra twist.
4. Have there been any problems with SFF this year and are there any changes
you'd like to see to the SFF format?
I have had no problems this year (unlike the golf when several of my teams
were wasted when transfers which looked like they had worked on screen
apparently didn't). Maybe a later deadline for transfers would help eg 15
minutes before kick off, because trying to get team news early is a
5. As you know I'm a great fan of TPLO and am trying to hang on to my
lead. Did you try TPLO this year?
No - but I do fancy a shot at some different competitions next season.
6. Have you tried the Fantasy League's original game or The Sun's Dream Team
game, and if so what do you think to them?
No - but I have played games in the past under the original FL format - I
think assists should be part of all fantasy football games - that's one
thing that SFF lacks.
7. You've entered your teams in SFF under the name 'Wineracks'. What's that
Boring really - I just enter my teams under any word beginning with 'W' - I
got sick of 'Watson's Winners'.
8. What do you do when you're not concentrating on your fantasy sports
Play golf, 5-a-side, unihoc and watch Newcastle.
9. Do you think that with most fantasy sports games you need to play each
game once before fully appreciating the effect of the rules?
Definitely - I improved a lot in my second year in the golf - I just hope
the football is the same.
10. Do you prefer games to keep pretty much the same rules or change things
each year to liven things up?
I prefer consistency - but most competitions could do with a few minor rule
11. What have been you're main SFF tactics for the year?
To be honest, I think I blasted too many transfers too early and have had
to try and spin the rest out to the end - which I have just about done. I
tried to ride the 'waves of form' and did well out of Leicester and West Ham
at various stages, but hung on to my Man U players for too long.
12. What sports websites do you use a lot and is there any particular ones
you use for injury and team news?
Teamtalk and Sky sports - and various individual club sites, but a lot of
them tell you nothing.
13. What are your plans for next year, either on SFF or on fantasy sports
Definitely sticking with SFF - Andy's proved it is possible to be consistent
in this format. I hope Sky bring the golf back - apparently it is in some
14. What do you think the top 5 clubs in the Premiership will be next year?
Man U, Liverpool, Leeds, Arsenal, Newcastle (ok not really, maybe Chelsea)
15. Do you have a couple of premiership players for people to watch next
Martijn Reuser & Ashley Cole
16. Have you got any tips for people out there playing fantasy football?
Plan ahead - but avoid over analysis.
17. What do you think to Andy's tactics in SFF this year?
You can't knock them given the results, but I don't understand why he STILL
has groups of 5 identical teams near the top, even at this late stage?
18. Will you come back and tell us what your final line-up for your top team
on Saturday 19 May was?
19. Can you briefly describe your perfect online fantasy football game i.e.
what are your favourite features?
Free to enter and decent prizes - ok a decent points stucture as well.
20. You took part in premierwin.com this year didn't you? What do you think
of the problems they've run into?
I never entered at the start because we decided at work that there was no
way they could pay out a million - you just can't generate that amount of
entry fees on fantasy football. I only entered when a local man won the
£5,000 December monthly prize and I was lucky enough to win a grand the
first week in. I hope their demise stops other people trying to run 'stupid'
21. What is your routine during a typical week when looking after your
fantasy football teams?
Check team news towards the end of the week, final check on Saturday morning
and then put in any transfers.
22. Who do you think will get that crucial third Champions League spot this
I think Leeds might sneak it - I fancy Charlton to get a point off a tired
23. And finally, do you think you will beat Andy to the title of SFF winner
"I WOULD LOVE IT, JUST LOVE IT IF I BEAT HIM" - there again, Keegan won nowt
that year, so let's just say that with ten points the difference there is
still a chance.............
Cheers for that Dave (Keegan's never going to live that down is he!).