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If you are talking Shankly it actually started back in the late 50's.blahblah wrote: ↑21 Apr 2022, 14:59Surely they glow from Shankley?plasticninja wrote: ↑21 Apr 2022, 14:58Liverpool's tree started with Paisley in 74 and ended with Roy Evans in 94, that was some run.
The reason I mentioned Paisley was because you chose Liverpool and the 70's as your example.
You can't have it both ways.
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His succession started in the 70splasticninja wrote: ↑21 Apr 2022, 15:42If you are talking Shankly it actually started back in the late 50's.blahblah wrote: ↑21 Apr 2022, 14:59Surely they glow from Shankley?plasticninja wrote: ↑21 Apr 2022, 14:58Liverpool's tree started with Paisley in 74 and ended with Roy Evans in 94, that was some run.
The reason I mentioned Paisley was because you chose Liverpool and the 70's as your example.
You can't have it both ways.
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Exactly with Paisley
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My bad though, I did say the tree started with Paisley, that is incorrect. I should have said succession.
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I get it now, I had never heard of a coaching tree before.
This is what you get when you start bringing americanisms into soccer.
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I cant see him or anyone else turning things around in the near future tbh, certainly not in an 18 month time frame.plasticninja wrote: ↑21 Apr 2022, 13:03 I think this guy deserves his own thread. If I was a Utd fan I would be quite pleased. Some people might say he lacks experience managing a big club but I would disagree. Ajax are one of the most successful clubs in world football and have actually won the European Cup more times than Utd, and their academy is probably second to none. He served his apprenticeship under Pep at Bayern and has done an excellent job at Ajax. I think he is ready for this mammoth task. Ruth_NZ will probably do a deeper dive into his background but in the meantime it would be nice to hear what others think.
Rather than list the players that need to go, its a much shorter list for those we keep of the regulars:
De Gea & Henderson (dont think he'll want another season on the bench)
Fernandes
Mctominay
Elanga
Sancho
Granted, that's brutal but even if you add one or two that's at least 3 seasons to shape a new team.
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Wow that is a brutal cull.Guppings wrote: ↑21 Apr 2022, 15:53I cant see him or anyone else turning things around in the near future tbh, certainly not in an 18 month time frame.plasticninja wrote: ↑21 Apr 2022, 13:03 I think this guy deserves his own thread. If I was a Utd fan I would be quite pleased. Some people might say he lacks experience managing a big club but I would disagree. Ajax are one of the most successful clubs in world football and have actually won the European Cup more times than Utd, and their academy is probably second to none. He served his apprenticeship under Pep at Bayern and has done an excellent job at Ajax. I think he is ready for this mammoth task. Ruth_NZ will probably do a deeper dive into his background but in the meantime it would be nice to hear what others think.
Rather than list the players that need to go, its a much shorter list for those we keep of the regulars:
De Gea & Henderson (dont think he'll want another season on the bench)
Fernandes
Mctominay
Elanga
Sancho
Granted, that's brutal but even if you add one or two that's at least 3 seasons to shape a new team.
It will take a few years considering the bar has been raised since Pep turned up and it took him a couple of years.
Top four has to be the aim for the foreseeable future with the a couple of decent cup runs.
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Shankly's management:blahblah wrote: ↑21 Apr 2022, 15:43His succession started in the 70splasticninja wrote: ↑21 Apr 2022, 15:42If you are talking Shankly it actually started back in the late 50's.blahblah wrote: ↑21 Apr 2022, 14:59Surely they glow from Shankley?plasticninja wrote: ↑21 Apr 2022, 14:58Liverpool's tree started with Paisley in 74 and ended with Roy Evans in 94, that was some run.
The reason I mentioned Paisley was because you chose Liverpool and the 70's as your example.
You can't have it both ways.
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His trophy haul isn't the greatest but no one can ever match his love and passion for the game.
"Some people believe football is a matter of life and death, I am very disappointed with that attitude. I can assure you it is much, much more important than that."
"Some people believe football is a matter of life and death, I am very disappointed with that attitude. I can assure you it is much, much more important than that."
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Yep. They shocked Shankly (or was it Paisley?) early/mid 70s and the Liverpool ways were changed leading to the European dominance.plasticninja wrote:It was a lot more exciting though, playing teams you had never heard of before. Partizan Belgrade shocked a few people at the time with their style of play.
PS the boot root legacy at Liverpool actually started before Shankly with him inheriting Paisley and a couple of others.
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Okay, interesting, I didn't know that.murf wrote: ↑21 Apr 2022, 16:22Yep. They shocked Shankly (or was it Paisley?) early/mid 70s and the Liverpool ways were changed leading to the European dominance.plasticninja wrote:It was a lot more exciting though, playing teams you had never heard of before. Partizan Belgrade shocked a few people at the time with their style of play.
PS the boot root legacy at Liverpool actually started before Shankly with him inheriting Paisley and a couple of others.
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And the fact that he set up a dynasty, which reflects as much on him as it does on Paisley who exceeded his trophy haul (and handed over to a further two successful incumbents himself). Whereas Busby and Ferguson for example stepped aside and watched things unravel under their successors.plasticninja wrote: ↑21 Apr 2022, 16:07 His trophy haul isn't the greatest but no one can ever match his love and passion for the game.
"Some people believe football is a matter of life and death, I am very disappointed with that attitude. I can assure you it is much, much more important than that."
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Except the quote is a load of garbage, shirley?plasticninja wrote: ↑21 Apr 2022, 16:07 His trophy haul isn't the greatest but no one can ever match his love and passion for the game.
"Some people believe football is a matter of life and death, I am very disappointed with that attitude. I can assure you it is much, much more important than that."
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How are you measuring that? What's the internationally recognised unit of football passion?plasticninja wrote: ↑21 Apr 2022, 16:07 His trophy haul isn't the greatest but no one can ever match his love and passion for the game.
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The Shankly, presumablyDarbyand wrote: ↑21 Apr 2022, 17:10How are you measuring that? What's the internationally recognised unit of football passion?plasticninja wrote: ↑21 Apr 2022, 16:07 His trophy haul isn't the greatest but no one can ever match his love and passion for the game.
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[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5K4O0j7j30[/youtube]plasticninja wrote: ↑21 Apr 2022, 15:25Of course Shankly started it but he came from outside of the club. Paisley was the first manager to follow from within.Guppings wrote: ↑21 Apr 2022, 15:19WOW I agree He got them up from Div 2 & built a method of play that was the foundation to their amazing success. As a club Liverpool's history, in my view, wont be equaled. In fact, it cant be. 3 European Cups won before it was dumbed down from the champions of a country to playing 4th placed in a leagueblahblah wrote: ↑21 Apr 2022, 14:59Surely they glow from Shankley?plasticninja wrote: ↑21 Apr 2022, 14:58Liverpool's tree started with Paisley in 74 and ended with Roy Evans in 94, that was some run.
I effin hate'm
Shankly in my mind is the greatest manager ever.
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Guppings, that feature works by only using the code at the end of the URL. So in your example you'd just use this bit surrounded by the YouTube brackets:
i5K4O0j7j30
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You really are nit picking today aren't you.blahblah wrote: ↑21 Apr 2022, 16:52Except the quote is a load of garbage, shirley?plasticninja wrote: ↑21 Apr 2022, 16:07 His trophy haul isn't the greatest but no one can ever match his love and passion for the game.
"Some people believe football is a matter of life and death, I am very disappointed with that attitude. I can assure you it is much, much more important than that."
Are you still stinging from your Bitcoin debate loss.
"Somebody said that football's a matter of life and death to you, I said 'listen, it's more important than that'."
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Dont be getting jealous son.Darbyand wrote: ↑21 Apr 2022, 17:10How are you measuring that? What's the internationally recognised unit of football passion?plasticninja wrote: ↑21 Apr 2022, 16:07 His trophy haul isn't the greatest but no one can ever match his love and passion for the game.
Ferguson doesn't even come close.
Just my opinion.
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"This means more" "Imagine being us". Zzzzzz. If we're throwing managerial aphorisms around, then as Wenger tartly pointed out, everyone thinks they have the prettiest wife at home.
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Fergie really flipped when he heard that.
And for what it's worth I am not a Liverpool fan, I am an Arsenal supporter, for my sins.
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Pep apparently said Ten Hag could be a candidate to succeed him. Well, I suppose if he succeeds at United he might be considered for the step up
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One of my few talentsplasticninja wrote: ↑21 Apr 2022, 17:40You really are nit picking today aren't you.blahblah wrote: ↑21 Apr 2022, 16:52Except the quote is a load of garbage, shirley?plasticninja wrote: ↑21 Apr 2022, 16:07 His trophy haul isn't the greatest but no one can ever match his love and passion for the game.
"Some people believe football is a matter of life and death, I am very disappointed with that attitude. I can assure you it is much, much more important than that."
Are you still stinging from your Bitcoin debate loss.
"Somebody said that football's a matter of life and death to you, I said 'listen, it's more important than that'."
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You are a man of many talents blah.
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Aw thanks
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I love you buddy.
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Here's my list of those we should keep...Guppings wrote:Rather than list the players that need to go, its a much shorter list for those we keep of the regulars
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Seriously, who would you all keep - bearing in mind they won't buy 22 new players at once.
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None of them deserve to stay. Literally, not a single one of them.murf wrote:Seriously, who would you all keep - bearing in mind they won't buy 22 new players at once.
As to what the club will actually do, I doubt God even knows...
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