English league structure: revamp

[forestfan]

If we rank English clubs on historic performance, 2 points for a European Cup/Champions League and 1 for a lesser Euro competition, we have:

Liverpool 15
Man Utd 8
Chelsea 5
Forest 4
Tottenham 3
Villa 2

That’s your six, then. Sorry, City...

[raoul]

If we rank on % of European club games won, or on goals scored per game, or why not a combo of both, then I think you'll find a new member of the 6 and top in fact

[Darbyand]

You're confusing historic with historical.

[SamD]

. . . new Uefa proposals for expanded European club competitions post-2024 would potentially see six English clubs in the Champions League — the top four plus two upgraded on historic performance . . .

'Historic performance' is more likely to be based on a club's UEFA coefficient, ie its performance in Europe over latest five years. The Bert Kassies site shows current rankings: https://kassiesa.net/uefa/data/method5/trank2021.html

Also being discussed today is condition that the team upgraded to CL would need to finish domestic league season in fifth to seventh place.

[bspittles]

And so making it harder still for teams outside the top six to break into the big time

[blahblah]

If we go back to 70s then Ipswich have a chance

[murf]

And so making it harder still for teams outside the top six to break into the big time

Not sure how really if 6 get in and they have to finish top 7.
A lesser club only misses out if they finish 5th to 7th which wouldn't get in now! Plus, that only applies if no other lesser club finishes up there.

[bspittles]

And so making it harder still for teams outside the top six to break into the big time

Not sure how really if 6 get in and they have to finish top 7.
A lesser club only misses out if they finish 5th to 7th which wouldn't get in now! Plus, that only applies if no other lesser club finishes up there.

Because it is now easier for a “big” club to have a bad season but still play in the elite European competition, and therefore get more money to establish themselves further as a “big” club.

[forestfan]

. . . new Uefa proposals for expanded European club competitions post-2024 would potentially see six English clubs in the Champions League — the top four plus two upgraded on historic performance . . .

'Historic performance' is more likely to be based on a club's UEFA coefficient, ie its performance in Europe over latest five years. The Bert Kassies site shows current rankings: https://kassiesa.net/uefa/data/method5/trank2021.html

Also being discussed today is condition that the team upgraded to CL would need to finish domestic league season in fifth to seventh place.

Presumably they don’t specify which division