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FISO ISO 2020-2021

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As promised I'll get the new season kicked off then.. ISO 2020-2021 is on and everybody on here is welcome to join :D .

Last year's champ was again Nbbbee10 who has the honour of picking the final starting line up (and first overhaul line up in Oct). I'll stick his final line up in this opening post once he's decided it, I've also set up the mini league (details below).

If you're keen to play give us a nod in this thread and get your team in the mini-league. Please make sure you read the guff below before entering, just so we're all on the same page with the rules, team name etc. If you have any questions, don't be shy, fire away.

Introduction to the game:

The rules of ISO are very simple. Every participant starts with the same (agreed) team line-up, and must make the same (agreed) selection and captain choice over the first day of fixtures. After the first kick off everybody is free to make transfers as they wish until the first overhaul after week 4.

From then onwards, everyone manages their own team as they like, until the first overhaul in Oct when we will all revert again to the same (new) team selection and captain choice for the first post overhaul day of fixtures.

After this it's a free for all, with everyone managing their team as they wish. In May we will see who has managed their transfers best, and who has won ISO 2020-2021

By tradition, the starting (and first overhaul) team is decided by the previous year's ISO winner and following a process of discussion and debate amongst entrants, criticised and changed until a final 11 is settled on.

Also by tradition Teams should be called "ISO <username>" (eg. ISO Northernmonkey), it's one team per person. Teams should be in the league by the first weekend.

All teams need to be set to public so we can see each others team (obviously if someone is on the verge of winning the overall sky tournament then of course it would be prudent to take your team private).

Fiso ISO is free to enter and open to everyone and new entrants are most welcome, good natured banter and mind games are to be expected.

ISO Hall of fame:

The competition started back in the good old days of TFFO, then migrated to OFL in 2010, then on to sky in 2017. There's a fine pedigree of previous champions, including some who've done exceedingly well in the overall main competition. The best ever achievement for an ISO team was Marke192, he was piped in the final week of the season to finish runner up overall in 2013-14. In 2019-20 Nbbbee10 finished 2nd in the overall Sky league, albeit with his other team.

2019-20 Nbbbee10
2018-19 Nbbbee10
2017-18 coleridge
2016-17 coleridge (last OFL winner)
2015-16 Northernmonkey
2014-15 Bal
2013-14 Marke192 (and 2nd in the overall standings)
2012-13 Skip
2011-12 Fat Skier
2010-11 Blessed Brian
2009-10 Reds363 (last winner from the TFFO days)

FISO ISO MINI LEAGUE

League name: FISO ISO 2020-21
Pin: 8485906

Final starting line up

1. Pickford £6.8 million
2. Azpilicueta £9.0 million
3. VVD £10.9 million
4. Vinagre £6.5 million
5 Justin £6.3 million
6. Dele Alli £9.0 million
7. Antonio £8.0 million
8. Saka £7.0 million
9. Vardy £10.8 million
10. Aubameyang £11.4 million (capt for Sat week 1)
11. Werner £11.1

Final team 1st overhaul

1. Patricio £6.9 million
2. Chilwell £9.0 million
3. VVD £10.9 million
4. Dallas £6.4 million
5 Lamptey £6.0 million
6. Fernandes £10.9 million
7. Antonio £8.0 million
8. Grealish £8.5 million
9. Son £10.1 million
10. Salah £12 million (capt for Sat)
11. Calvert-Lewin £9.3 million
Last edited by Northernmonkey on 17 Oct 2020, 11:07, edited 3 times in total.

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Thanks; looking forward to seeing what team Nbbbee10 comes up with ;)

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I’m all ready to go again this season. A disappointing 19/20 performance from myself so looking forwards to team selection thoughts

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Thanks for kicking us off, Northernmonkey. ISO Biscuitman is entered.

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First Draft

Here goes with the first draft for this years FISO ISO

1. Pickford 6.8 to start the season, I had him in for the first 4 games of my team that finished 2nd overall last season
2. Virgil Van Dijk, £10.9
3. James Justin, Leicester, £6.3, now Chilwell has left his ability to play both right side and left side means he should get plenty of game time. He also averaged just under 5 points per game. Could be this years Soyuncu, underpriced back up that benefits from the departure of a first team player
4. Azpilicueta £9, a captain option for the first Monday night game, potential for attacking points, hopefully Thiago Silva strengthens Chelsea defensively as well
5. Vinagre £6.5, should start the season for Wolves at left wingback a good price
6. KDB £11.5, in for structure for the team only at the moment as most have a 2 for 0 before he starts the season can be downgraded and then brought in for the game on 21st September
7. Stuart Armstrong £7.1, had a goal involvement almost every other game last season, looks too cheap in my opinion.
8. Josh Brownhill £5.6, started games regularly for Burnley at the end of last season, I know he misses the first week but he looks the best option to be an enabler.
9. Harry Kane £11.7, a good captain option early season.
10. Aubameyang £11.4 another good captain option early season.
11. Mason Greenwood £8.7 looks too cheap, I know he misses the first game but as he plays on Saturday the next week makes him a captain option.

Total £95.5 so £4.5 in the bank for upgrades and alternative suggestions

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Thanks Nbbbeee,

I hesitate to contact given your record but personally, I'd swap Greenwood & KDB for Antonio & Vardy. Vardy is a decent captaincy option for both the first two GWs and then can become KDB. Leaves you without a Man Utd option though but personally I'm not keen on losing a forward slot to a non-player in GW1. Brownhill also feels like a transfer waiting to happen but then I have no idea how Burnley are likely to line up. Pickford would be down my list of GKs (personally I prefer Lloris), but if he can recapture his form he may be very good value.

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Good picks, agree just not convinced on Brownhill (esp for 3 games) and so much ££ spare to sort it.

Agree on above re Vardy too. Though personally I’m sooo tempted by Werner for the opening 4 games (3 decent ones). Chelsea will score for fun with a decent striker, even Tammy bagged big points at the start last year.

Eg with that £4.5..

Brownhill :arrow: Alli
Kane :arrow: Werner

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Thanks Nm and Nbbbee.

Haven't had chance for a proper look yet so you'll have to wait a little for my pearls of wisdom :lol:

Did notice Antonio went off injured the other day though.

You going to give me another tenner via a prize league Nm?

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Again duly acknowledging Nbbbee's vastly superior record, I tend to agree with Aldershot Rejects and Northernmonkey. I'd favour bringing in Vardy for Greenwood, and Saka (who will get minutes, I would think?) for Brownhill.

That reduces bank to £1.0m. Then put AN Other in as the placeholder for KDB, coming in on 21st. Incidentally, we'll know before kick off if KDB is selected, which is handy - albeit would be a surprise if he isn't.

I agree Antonio might be an option (I've seen nothing new suggesting he won't make GW1, but I'm no WHU expert), but I would not be averse to a punt on Ziyech, if we think he'll be playing from the start, given CHE fixtures.

Only thing is, I might personally be looking to bring in Fernandes from GW2 and that would not be so easy to achieve. Sticking with a "proper" enabler, rather than Saka, would achieve it - but there would be no need to go quite as cheap as Brownhill, where I do think having him in for a blank in GW1 and then LEI away in GW2 is not ideal by any stretch. But that's where I start struggling - will the Longstaffs be playing at NEW? Hmmm.

Finally, I guess it is Auba or Kane for the Saturday GW1 capt?

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Apologies, I realise neither Aldershot Rejects nor Northernmonkey were pushing Saka...

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Re: FISO ISO 2020-2021

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My tuppence worth, based on not a lot of research.
GK: Pickford is a sensible enough pick, have you considered Darlow (NEW). The fixtures are comparable, the defences were comparable last season. i haven't a clue what to expect this year, but .6M saving could be very useful.
Def: A big IF, but unless there's a signing, or surprise return from injury does it not look like Thomas is starting as the other fullback for Leicester. Please let me know if that's nonsense. He's a huge 1.7M less than Justin.
Mid: Not a fan of starting with Brownhill, do not like the idea of missing at least 25% of the 1st 4 games, for someone who is not expected to score highly even if he plays. Much rather spend some of the spare dosh on a proven performer like Traore(8.7). Post reset I agree a midfield enabler is extremely handy, but i'm not sure we need one for the first 4.
Fwd: I'm 100% on the Vardy train. IMO a better Wk2-Sat option than Greenwood anyway, with the not insubstantial advantage of an extra game, and the possibility of being Wk4-Captain. (2nd name on my teamsheet.)
Auba is a no-brainer & surely the 1st name on the teamsheet.
Elsewhere.
I wanted some Chelsea, personally tossing up between Ziyech & Werner, but Azpi is probably a reasonably safe alternative. I expect Werner to tear up the premier league.
Similarly some Spurs, i think is sensible, Kane/Son/Ali - who knows which is the best option.
If the plan is to (probably) bring in KDB week 2, i think the choices for the start are Willian/Ziyech/Ali/Barnes(LEI) - should be the final selection for the team, and the decision is probably highly dependent on whether or not all 4 teams are covered elsewhere.

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The more I looked at nbbbees team more sense it made.

I dont mind KDB despite him missing the first week. I also can see the sense in a Man utd player. Brownhill is a step to far for me though, pre overhaul.

So I would like to offer up Azpi :arrow: B Johnson...Brownhill :arrow: Bruno....Greenwood :arrow: Werner....Also really like Antonio if fit.

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coleridge wrote: 04 Sep 2020, 09:39

I dont mind KDB despite him missing the first week.
However, with every other team except WOL playing twice before MCY start their fixtures, it might be worth taking a 2 for 0 at the cost of 1 early transfer. There is also the admittedly outside possibility that KDB doesn't play in the first MCY fixture - eg due to injury, quarantine. My view would be put someone else in that place for 2 games, then bring him in - which was nbbbee's thinking, I believe. Relaxed about your other thoughts though.

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Yeah its a totally valid point you make Bman,

I was just struggling to find a midfielder worth the transfer. Although as mentioned I'd be happy with Antonio if fit.

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Bit late to the party but count me in

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coleridge wrote: 31 Aug 2020, 23:09
You going to give me another tenner via a prize league Nm?
Think you’ll find it’s now 1-1 :wink: I’ve set this £10 side league up, not to be confused with the main event (ie free ISO league) in the opening post.

For anyone who fancies squandering a tenner this is the side league. The prize pot was a life changing £40 last year split 75%/25% for 1st/2nd.

ISO Tenner League
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coleridge wrote: 04 Sep 2020, 09:39
So I would like to offer up Azpi :arrow: B Johnson...Brownhill :arrow: Bruno....Greenwood :arrow: Werner....Also really like Antonio if fit.
Ben Johnson eh. £4.9 gem or the next Tanganga!

I’ve not seen him but will he get the nod over Fredericks? Weren’t WH in for Matty Cash too?

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Yep Johnson First choice :wink: Antonio also starts today so obviously fit.

Cheers for sorting the tenner league, if its 1-1 can you remind me who won the other one :P

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coleridge wrote: 05 Sep 2020, 16:08 Yep Johnson First choice :wink: Antonio also starts today so obviously fit.

Cheers for sorting the tenner league, if its 1-1 can you remind me who won the other one :P
Johnson was apparently substituted after about half an hour today as West Ham were leaking goals/chances down his side of the pitch.

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Johnson was apparently substituted after about half an hour today as West Ham were leaking goals/chances down his side of the pitch.
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Conceded another three :shock: after he went off, so I make him their top scoring defender :lol:

Seriously though it appears after the disgraceful sale of Diangana the players have joined the fans in open revolt, so perhaps best avoided for the time being.

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Yeah, when the captain publicly criticises the club it doesn't bode well.

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If you're up for having one more in this league, then I'd be interested in joining.

Almost threw my hat in the ring last year, but joined FISO a bit late. Have lurked before though, so I'm up to speed with the rules and regs.

Please let me know if that's OK and I'll put a team in once it's finalised.

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Johnners wrote: 07 Sep 2020, 13:27 If you're up for having one more in this league, then I'd be interested in joining.

Almost threw my hat in the ring last year, but joined FISO a bit late. Have lurked before though, so I'm up to speed with the rules and regs.

Please let me know if that's OK and I'll put a team in once it's finalised.

Yes we are always pleased to have new entrants. Welcome aboard :D .

Don't be afraid to speak up if there is someone you think should absolutely be in the team.

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I'll join again this year.

I haven't had much chance to look at it yet, but on the face of it I'm not sold on Brownhill. I'm also not overly keen on Pickford, but not enough to object to his inclusion.

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coleridge wrote: 07 Sep 2020, 18:20 Yes we are always pleased to have new entrants. Welcome aboard :D .

Don't be afraid to speak up if there is someone you think should absolutely be in the team.
Thank you. :D

Wouldn't feel comfortable wading in with suggestions when I've only just turned up, but I do like the look of your proposal to go with Bruno and Werner.

On the subject of the prize league, does everyone use their public ISO team in this, or do they enter their other team and keep it private?

Happy either way, just don't want to make a botch of anything before I've even begun.

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Johnners wrote: 07 Sep 2020, 20:23
coleridge wrote: 07 Sep 2020, 18:20 Yes we are always pleased to have new entrants. Welcome aboard :D .

Don't be afraid to speak up if there is someone you think should absolutely be in the team.
Thank you. :D

Wouldn't feel comfortable wading in with suggestions when I've only just turned up, but I do like the look of your proposal to go with Bruno and Werner.

On the subject of the prize league, does everyone use their public ISO team in this, or do they enter their other team and keep it private?

Happy either way, just don't want to make a botch of anything before I've even begun.
Welcome to ISO Johnners, the side league is also ISO teams if you’re up for it. So it’s exactly the same, just for those who fancy a flutter.

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The prize league is for your iso team only, just a bit of fun on the side really.

As Northernmonkey pointed out earlier "The prize pot was a life changing £40 last year split 75%/25% for 1st/2nd" :lol:

Edit to say.. Good to see you beat me at something for once Nm :P

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Northernmonkey wrote: 07 Sep 2020, 23:51 Welcome to ISO Johnners, the side league is also ISO teams if you’re up for it. So it’s exactly the same, just for those who fancy a flutter.
coleridge wrote: 08 Sep 2020, 00:01 The prize league is for your iso team only, just a bit of fun on the side really.
Thanks both. Happy to donate to the prize fund, so please feel free to PM me the password and I'll sign up.

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Having read and taken on board the comments, in particular regarding Josh Brownhill, I have now selected a provisional final X1

1. Pickford £6.8 million
2. Azpilicueta £9.0 million
3. VVD £10.9 million
4. Vinagre £6.5 million (he is linked with a transfer away from Wolves if this goes through before Thursday then he can be changed for Marcal at £6.3 million)
5 Justin £6.3 million
6. Dele Alli £9.0 million
7. Antonio £8.0 million
8. Armstrong £7.0 million
9. Vardy £10.8 million (captain on Sunday for week 1, Dele Alli is also an option though)
10. Aubameyang £11.4 million (captain for Saturday week 1)
11. Werner £11.1 (captain for Monday week 1)

£3.1 million in the bank for transfers

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Can I have the tenner league password please?

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