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TFF 4FD / FPL King of the Drafts Combo League 19/20

Post by thebillfella »

All

Further to this season's sister TFF Four Full Draft (4FD) League (viewtopic.php?f=136&t=130823), this is a new thread for the FPL Draft League. For info last years thread is here: viewtopic.php?f=378&t=128835

Priority will be given to the same TFF draft members (see below) but with reserve spaces for those that wish to participate in this FPL draft but not the TFF one up to a maximum of 12 entrants (Striker for example who has expressed an interest to enter this alone plus currently a maximum of one more if all TFF 4FD participants play this as well).

The current members of the TFF 4FD which take priority in this league (max 12 participants) are as follows:

thebillfella
workie-ticket
Spencer4
sibrown4
Geoffv
morganb
robot
nathan247
nffc
theo29
Striker (FPL 4FD only)

I have set up the first FPL League and posted the code below. Please do not forward codes to other players or enter the league if you have not declared an interest first in this thread and been accepted to join as the names above take priority given their inclusion in the TFF 4FD.

For my spreadsheets to work I need to know your team names in each league so once you join PLEASE POST YOUR TEAM NAMES (for TFF as well as FPL) ON THIS THREAD.

Rules

(1) Preferably, you will enter a team into both competitions and then join the respective leagues set up by me (on TFF 4FD and here). I will need a post on this thread from each member that contains their team names.
(2) The game rules and scoring set up by TFF and FPL will apply to your respective teams throughout the season.
(3) The rules / scoring adjustments will be similar to the main game TFF/FPL Combo League but obviously using the "draft" formats of the game (four number FPL drafts to coincide with the TFF 4FD dates that I will confirm to follow), i.e. in a similar ilk to the TFF 4FD we will have a total of four FPL Drafts over the season (so please ensure you have at least 4 FPL draft spaces left - I think you are allowed a maximum of 10 different draft leagues in total?).
(4) We will take the scores up to our designated new draft dates (to be confirmed mirroring the TFF 4FD dates) and then start a new FPL draft league each time; adding together each draft quarter score up to that changeover point. I will then monitor and periodically post a TFF 4FD / FPL Draft Combo League summary similar to the main game TFF/FPL Combo League here but in draft format (http://www.fiso.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.p ... 0&t=128169) over the course of the season so we can try to establish who the King of the Draft Leagues in both formats is.

Entry Deadline:
See first draft date below (Wed 11 Sep 2019 21:30). The further 3 draft dates are to be confirmed but likely for the official roughly around the same time as the TFF 4FD (typically during the international breaks and just after New Year?)

Any entries after the confirmed deadlines will not be entered into the competition and removed from the league.

FISO FPL 4 Full Draft (Pt.1)
Code to join this league: 683635-162386.


League information
League Administrator: Bill Wilkins
Draft Date: Wed 11 Sep 2019
Draft Time: 21:30
Draft Time Zone: Europe/London
Starting Gameweek: 5
Min. League Size: 6
Max. League Size: 12
Scoring Mode: Classic
Pick Time Limit: 60 seconds
Player Trades: All


Gameplay:
Each week your teams' scores will be combined into a Superleague that I will post on FISO as often as I am able. Your TFF score will be factored up by 1.2 to equal out the scoring systems.
Gameweeks will be based on the FPL structure (see below).

Gameweeks:
The combined league will be posted after the final match is played and scores updated by TFF and FPL in the respective gameweek.
Gameweeks will be based on the FPL GW rules - these are listed on the website.

Hope that's everything but will advise updates where required. Don't forget to post your team names below.

Cheers and good luck for the coming season.

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Re: TFF 4FD / FPL King of the Drafts Combo League 19/20

Post by morganb »

Team name in both leagues is

morganb Real Drafty

Thanks for all your efforts will setting these draft games up.

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Re: TFF 4FD / FPL King of the Drafts Combo League 19/20

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tbf I am a non starter in FPL draft. I expect to have a reply from Ian this morning re name change in Euro Super League. Regards theo

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Re: TFF 4FD / FPL King of the Drafts Combo League 19/20

Post by thebillfella »

Ok, no worries. Really only important if you want to take on the combo league for all draft addicts out there!

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Re: TFF 4FD / FPL King of the Drafts Combo League 19/20

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Entered with Team Name - Relegated Laughing 1

The intention for the later drafts is that the team names will be Relegated Laughing 2, 3 & 4.

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Re: TFF 4FD / FPL King of the Drafts Combo League 19/20

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Im in. BrownyPoint on Draft

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Re: TFF 4FD / FPL King of the Drafts Combo League 19/20

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Ill be in, hasnt spencer said previously hes not in?

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Re: TFF 4FD / FPL King of the Drafts Combo League 19/20

Post by thebillfella »

Yes I think so. But you never know :wink:

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Re: TFF 4FD / FPL King of the Drafts Combo League 19/20

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billfella - how many managers do you think that we are going to have if no one else comes out of the woodwork. Best guess and maximum? I ask so that when I prepare a watch list tomorrow, it's about the right length.

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Re: TFF 4FD / FPL King of the Drafts Combo League 19/20

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Other than theo and spencer I was expecting everyone in the list above tbh!

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Re: TFF 4FD / FPL King of the Drafts Combo League 19/20

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GeoffVDraft entered

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Re: TFF 4FD / FPL King of the Drafts Combo League 19/20

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So 7 involved in the end - looks like we lost nathan247 and workie-ticket

Draft details here for the record:

https://ratemyteam.uk/Fiso/DraftLeague/162386

Reasonably happy with my bunch. Striker's team looks strong.

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Re: TFF 4FD / FPL King of the Drafts Combo League 19/20

Post by morganb »

thebillfella wrote: 11 Sep 2019, 22:25 So 7 involved in the end - looks like we lost nathan247 and workie-ticket

Draft details here for the record:

https://ratemyteam.uk/Fiso/DraftLeague/162386

Reasonably happy with my bunch. Striker's team looks strong.
I guess we are going to do an FPL draft soon to run in parallel with the TFF one?

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Re: TFF 4FD / FPL King of the Drafts Combo League 19/20

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I'd suggest around Nov 26th - Nov 28th for our FPL draft so that our season is as evenly divided as possible given that we miss the first four rounds of the season. Our four quarters will then have 9-9-8-8 fixtures. This is what we've done in the past. The alternative of 8-8-9-9 would mean that the second draft would have to be in a very very short window of opportunity in late December when some people may well be unavailable.

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Re: TFF 4FD / FPL King of the Drafts Combo League 19/20

Post by thebillfella »

Sounds sensible - will pencil something in for say 9pm on Tuesday 26th Nov unless another date / time suits better?

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Re: TFF 4FD / FPL King of the Drafts Combo League 19/20

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OK for me.

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Re: TFF 4FD / FPL King of the Drafts Combo League 19/20

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Sounds good - thanks

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Re: TFF 4FD / FPL King of the Drafts Combo League 19/20

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Next draft details:

FISO FPL 4 Full Draft (Pt.2)
Code to join this league: 768615-192380.


League Administrator: Bill Wilkins
Draft Date: Tue 26 Nov 2019
Draft Time: 21:00
Draft Time Zone: Europe/London
Starting Gameweek: 14
Min. League Size: 5
Max. League Size: 14
Scoring Mode: Classic
Pick Time Limit: 60 seconds
Player Trades: All

Let me know if any problems and need to adjust the time / date.

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Re: TFF 4FD / FPL King of the Drafts Combo League 19/20

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Fine for me

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Re: TFF 4FD / FPL King of the Drafts Combo League 19/20

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:(

Why on earth did I think this was tonight :?
I even set a reminder on my phone for 830 this evening :oops:

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Re: TFF 4FD / FPL King of the Drafts Combo League 19/20

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If you'd have joined the league when you received the code you would have got an automated team at least! That's what Geoffv and sibrown4 did!!!

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Re: TFF 4FD / FPL King of the Drafts Combo League 19/20

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Combo update after the first drafts:

Overall Sort

RANK NAME FPL NAME TFF NAME FPL SCORE TFF SCORE PENALTIES OVERALL
1 Sibrown4 Simon Brown Simon Brown 397 352 0 819
2 Geoffv Geoff Vickers Geoff Vickers 453 298 0 811
3 Robot andrew stevens andrew stevens 410 261 0 723
4 morganb Morgan Boniface Morgan Boniface 397 253 0 701
5 thebillfella Bill Wilkins Bill Wilkins 390 232 0 668
6 nffc kevin wright kevin wright 295 255 0 601
7 Spencer4 - Julian Ravilious 0 331 0 397
8 workie-ticket - Mike Rice 0 295 0 354
9 Striker David Browne - 347 0 10 337
10 theo29 - Roy Boyles 0 206 0 247
11 Nathan247 - Thomas Miller 0 224 100 169

FPL Sort

RANK NAME FPL NAME TFF NAME FPL SCORE TFF SCORE PENALTIES OVERALL
2 Geoffv Geoff Vickers Geoff Vickers 453 298 0 811
3 Robot andrew stevens andrew stevens 410 261 0 723
1 Sibrown4 Simon Brown Simon Brown 397 352 0 819
4 morganb Morgan Boniface Morgan Boniface 397 253 0 701
5 thebillfella Bill Wilkins Bill Wilkins 390 232 0 668
9 Striker David Browne - 347 0 10 337
6 nffc kevin wright kevin wright 295 255 0 601
7 Spencer4 - Julian Ravilious 0 331 0 397
8 workie-ticket - Mike Rice 0 295 0 354
10 theo29 - Roy Boyles 0 206 0 247
11 Nathan247 - Thomas Miller 0 224 100 169

TFF Sort

RANK NAME FPL NAME TFF NAME FPL SCORE TFF SCORE PENALTIES OVERALL
1 Sibrown4 Simon Brown Simon Brown 397 352 0 819
7 Spencer4 - Julian Ravilious 0 331 0 397
2 Geoffv Geoff Vickers Geoff Vickers 453 298 0 811
8 workie-ticket - Mike Rice 0 295 0 354
3 Robot andrew stevens andrew stevens 410 261 0 723
6 nffc kevin wright kevin wright 295 255 0 601
4 morganb Morgan Boniface Morgan Boniface 397 253 0 701
5 thebillfella Bill Wilkins Bill Wilkins 390 232 0 668
10 theo29 - Roy Boyles 0 206 0 247
9 Striker David Browne - 347 0 10 337
11 Nathan247 - Thomas Miller 0 224 100 169

Spreadsheet with workings here:

https://1drv.ms/x/s!AmtEsxHvNDnggQQYu6h ... i?e=QVPNsW

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Re: TFF 4FD / FPL King of the Drafts Combo League 19/20

Post by Striker »

Seems a bit odd to show tables that include players who arent actually playing those games. Surely it would be better to include seven players in the FPL league (dropping to six in the next quarter) nine in TFF and six in the combined league. It would only take one more step towards an Alice in Wonderland situation to include some guy in all three tables who isn't playing in either comp. :lol: :wink: :lol:

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Re: TFF 4FD / FPL King of the Drafts Combo League 19/20

Post by thebillfella »

Just how I set up the spreadsheet when I had more time - haven't had the time to modify since. It would be easier for me if you lot stopped effin' about and just entered both comps rather than being selective or forgetting the draft dates!!! :D

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Re: TFF 4FD / FPL King of the Drafts Combo League 19/20

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Flippin' 'eck - you've got unrealistic expectations! :wink:

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Re: TFF 4FD / FPL King of the Drafts Combo League 19/20

Post by thebillfella »

It's that time again!

Next draft details:

FISO FPL 4 Full Draft (Pt.3)
Code to join this league: 814614-208923


League Administrator: Bill Wilkins
Draft Date: Wed 15 Jan 2020
Draft Time: 21:00
Draft Time Zone: Europe/London
Starting Gameweek: 23
Min. League Size: 4
Max. League Size: 10
Scoring Mode: Classic
Pick Time Limit: 90 seconds
Player Trades: All

Let me know if any problems and need to adjust the time / date.

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Re: TFF 4FD / FPL King of the Drafts Combo League 19/20

Post by Striker »

Fine by me. But perhaps reduce the 90 seconds.

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Re: TFF 4FD / FPL King of the Drafts Combo League 19/20

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Yeh, will do. That's the default I think - have to go back and manually amend so will change to 60 secs

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Re: TFF 4FD / FPL King of the Drafts Combo League 19/20

Post by thebillfella »

New details as per PM

League Administrator: Bill Wilkins
Draft Date: Thu 16 Jan 2020
Draft Time: 22:00
Draft Time Zone: Europe/London
Starting Gameweek: 23
Min. League Size: 4
Max. League Size: 10
Scoring Mode: Classic
Pick Time Limit: 60 seconds
Player Trades: All

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