The Mother of all RMTs (Ironfist's RMT thread)

[Ironfist]

Dear FISOers, cherished Avenging Muppets team mates, MIA to PC Gretchen...

Another season is upon us. Hopefully a cheerier one than the last. Fingers crossed to a more successful one.

Here's my first draft for the season, sans Citeh attacking assets... couldn't make my mind up so decided to avoid them for now.

preseason rmt 1.jpg

Let the games begin...

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Tis shite

O might start a thread, but currently posting in AR's. I pondered Kelly and then forgot him, which could be a big .5m if he is 4m?

[Sutter Kane]

Dear FISOers, cherished Avenging Muppets team mates, MIA to PC Gretchen...

Another season is upon us. Hopefully a cheerier one than the last. Fingers crossed to a more successful one.

Here's my first draft for the season, sans Citeh attacking assets... couldn't make my mind up so decided to avoid them for now.

preseason rmt 1.jpg

Let the games begin...

Yep pretty standard I think. Mendy a risk but it's about keeping an eye on that LB Man C spot pre-season for all of us.

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A lot easier to have Mendy and then get Zinthing than vice versa...

Delathing as a Fwd is a tad dodgy imho and Salah is a real budget drainer thus season when KdB is 9.5m?

[Ironfist]

I hope to delay the 1st WC to gw6-10, thus have made this formation with the first 5 GWs in mind.
Adding Sterling would weaken the team to the point that I believe atm, my other players could well overcome. Enough attacking assets in both midfield and strikers.
The other way to approach it, would be to downgrade Ederson and upgrade (?) Kane to Aguero... or not.

All this tinkering when the thing that counts most now are the fixtures... which we already know.

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Kane at 11m is a kinda good imho, ignoring the not scoring on August thang?

[Ironfist]

Kane at 11m is a kinda good imho, ignoring the not scoring on August thang?

Not this season....

[Artius Stelio]

Nice team, I have a lot of the same players in my drafted teams currently. If Kelly is a starter at 4m that’s great news and something i’ll be looking into so I can upgrade elsewhere in the team.

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Kane at 11m is a kinda good imho, ignoring the not scoring on August thang?

Not this season....

Is that not good at 11m this season or (not, not) scoring in August?

[Ironfist]

Kane at 11m is a kinda good imho, ignoring the not scoring on August thang?

Not this season....

Is that not good at 11m this season or (not, not) scoring in August?

He'll score plenty in August.

[blahblah]

Kane at 11m is a kinda good imho, ignoring the not scoring on August thang?

Not this season....

Is that not good at 11m this season or (not, not) scoring in August?

He'll score plenty in August.

I'm not bothered if he doesn't as at 11m he is a bargain assuming that he (FPL) scores as he has in the past over the season, in a per minute kinda way.

I'm just pondering whether to perma-band him, which means I don't need a Sterling\Salah type ie KdB who may be more consistent than prolific...

[Ironfist]

Preseason Mk.II... is it getting to be too template-y...?
Taking in Dod's point about veering away from an early popular template rather than from early experimentation.

preseason rmt 2.jpg

Bench is a bit shite and overall team still lacking MCI attacking assets.
But I feel that the players therein atm, provide good attacking value VFM wise, to surpass the extortionate prices of the MCI players.


PS ... is anyone still using 'VFM', or is it just me still stuck in dinosaur age buzzwords?
Makes me feel dirty not being buzzword compliant with xG, 30ppM or other such trends.

[Taff Murray]

That is so close to where I stand at the moment. Only two players different of the first XI. Bench is different but I am beginning to feel that there is a definite template forming for the vast majority on here. It's worrying that everybody is following suit. If this theory of heavy in defence crashes and burns this year we all going to get caught with no easy way out. I may be tempted to move away from the template before the season starts but could then get left behind very early on. Play safe/"a sheep" or gamble is the question?

[Ironfist]

That is so close to where I stand at the moment. Only two players different of the first XI. Bench is different but I am beginning to feel that there is a definite template forming for the vast majority on here. It's worrying that everybody is following suit. If this theory of heavy in defence crashes and burns this year we all going to get caught with no easy way out. I may be tempted to move away from the template before the season starts but could then get left behind very early on. Play safe/"a sheep" or gamble is the question?

This is a bit of a surprise because I thought everyone will have Sterling or Aguero, rather than Kane.
If not Sterling than Bilva would be a must have.
I guess that the odd pricing structure of the MCI players is one of the major causes for a headache preseason.

As for formations... yes, the JLo seems rather popular this year and it might not all be the FPL managers fault, rather FPL Towers, who connived a cunning plan to shift the centre weight of the players ever so slightly every year, thus preventing all those 'game theory' and 'stats nuts' from getting a clear picture in their crystal balls.

[baganboy]

PS ... is anyone still using 'VFM', or is it just me still stuck in dinosaur age buzzwords?
Makes me feel dirty not being buzzword compliant with xG, 30ppM or other such trends.

I do, I do. But I am perhaps exactly as old playing FPL / FISO as you are.

xG is ok, but 30ppM is way beyond me. what is that!

As for your team, I love it to bits. But
1. What is Mendy doing stinking it up? He would not be first choice - Zinchenko would.
2. Begovic too is a little iffy - the conventional choices of Heaton, Pope, Gunn and Ryan are perhaps better. Ryan especially (considering Button) - but one can never say until Potter has figured out the team. He seems a decent manager though. If Heaton goes to Villa, Pope would be good!

The rest of the team is lovely.

[Stemania]

Ha ha. 30ppM just means 30 points per every million spent. So, asking if a 6m striker will get 30ppM is just an (arguably unnecessarily convoluted) way of asking if they will get 6 x 30 = 180 points over the season. Or at least, if the striker will score at that rate for the time-period in question.

Great to see you back IF!!!

[baganboy]

Ha ha. 30ppM just means 30 points per every million spent. So, asking if a 6m striker will get 30ppM is just an (arguably unnecessarily convoluted) way of asking if they will get 6 x 30 = 180 points over the season. Or at least, if the striker will score at that rate for the time-period in question.

Great to see you back IF!!!

Oh, that is nice. Nominally, that should be the consideration for non-big hitters, right? ~ 8 players at Let me go looking for the discussions here on those lines.

[blahblah]

So 17m on the bench gives 30x83which is 2490 accirding to my tired head plus 300ish from a 10m Capt 2790.

Basically it isn't as daft as some are making out for 2500 as a winning target. Rounding 30PpM up to 2800 it is only 300 divided by 83 or approx 3.5 giving 26.5 as the target.

Admittedly Transfers have to be factored in...

[Ironfist]

PS ... is anyone still using 'VFM', or is it just me still stuck in dinosaur age buzzwords?
Makes me feel dirty not being buzzword compliant with xG, 30ppM or other such trends.

I do, I do. But I am perhaps exactly as old playing FPL / FISO as you are.
xG is ok, but 30ppM is way beyond me. what is that!

As for your team, I love it to bits. But
1. What is Mendy doing stinking it up? He would not be first choice - Zinchenko would.
2. Begovic too is a little iffy - the conventional choices of Heaton, Pope, Gunn and Ryan are perhaps better. Ryan especially (considering Button) - but one can never say until Potter has figured out the team. He seems a decent manager though. If Heaton goes to Villa, Pope would be good!

The rest of the team is lovely.

Thank you
Mendy & Begovic are placeholders, as is most of my bench (bar Dendoncker).
If Zinchenko proves worthy I'll gladly get him in, though in all fairness I think Pep will switch them around a bit.
If Zinchenko gets into my team, that extra 0.5m could go a long way to upgrade Begovic or one of the bench people.

Ha ha. 30ppM just means 30 points per every million spent. So, asking if a 6m striker will get 30ppM is just an (arguably unnecessarily convoluted) way of asking if they will get 6 x 30 = 180 points over the season. Or at least, if the striker will score at that rate for the time-period in question.
Great to see you back IF!!!

Thank you. Pleasure as always.
Although you have become something of an FPL mogul and your in depth analysis and discussions with the likes of Dod aren't helping my confidence.
Can we get a glimpse of your early team or are you going to rocket away asap and leave us humans rolling in misery & dreams?

So 17m on the bench gives 30x83which is 2490 accirding to my tired head plus 300ish from a 10m Capt 2790.
Basically it isn't as daft as some are making out for 2500 as a winning target. Rounding 30PpM up to 2800 it is only 300 divided by 83 or approx 3.5 giving 26.5 as the target.
Admittedly Transfers have to be factored in...

That is one of the best positive stint reverse engineering exercises I have ever seen.
Put another little smoothening influence on that calculation and I could win FPL this year with my current bench alone


One last thing.. seeing as Gretchen has been retired by the PC Police and our lovely scenery at the bar has been replaced with some metal junk...
I got my own Gretchen replacement and am willing to share a wee look with you guys... just keep your hands to yourselves, these are MY drinks she is serving!
https://www.pinterest.co.uk/pin/544724517416553249/

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That's you suspended

Thanks, I impressed myself especially being very being weary, sober and doing the sums in my head

Smoothening: using Xfers should top 26.5PpM for Richarlison and other streak players are available eg Delofeu and a fair whack of expensive defenders managed it using last season's points and this season's prices - but roughening it up a bit that is as far as I can go atm, although there are "good fixture" runs but then I underegged the bench price a bit?

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For what it is worth I am sitting on this lot (PpM here uses last seasons points and this season's price):

Pickford
Stek - 9.5m and worth the 0.5m as Pickford was 3rd in PpM for Gk's and they should be better this season.

Robbo
VvD
TAA
Laporte
Mendy\in (guess which key on my keyboard doesn't work, lol) Pretty much PpM decided, and I would be shocked by any major deviation. Going for a cheapo doesn't really help unless Kelly at 4m starts and CP are tight as I won't be able to afford an Lpool Mid with the VvD saving. But time will tell if there are enough 7m(ish) mids to make that switch worthwhile

KdB - underpriced due to being injured last season and he wasn't that far off his Points per Minuteof the 2 previous seasons last term
Rich - streak (FPL) score who specialises in fast starts and a good fixture run
Pere - maybe just a placeholder, maybe he stays.
Chalobah
Diane Gina - Place holders for bench bods

Kane - permaband at 11m
Giroud - 7m for Chelski's CF seems too good to be true even if they are shite? Also a good placeholder for cheaper alternatives eg King
Pukki - I can blame at least one poster here when he is shite Less flippanty another place holder and I can swithch between 5-2-3 and 5-3-2....

[itslikebrandnew]

So 17m on the bench gives 30x83which is 2490 accirding to my tired head plus 300ish from a 10m Capt 2790.

Basically it isn't as daft as some are making out for 2500 as a winning target. Rounding 30PpM up to 2800 it is only 300 divided by 83 or approx 3.5 giving 26.5 as the target.

Admittedly Transfers have to be factored in...

Who's stealing my 30ppm idea

For me it's 18m on the bench. 82m is the cost of my first 11 so @ 30ppm = 2460

Don't add anything for captains. The captains points are included in the 30ppm to get to 2460.

You can't get anywhere near 30ppm with high value players. So any high value players will have to be captains. For example Salah only hits 360 by being captain 50% of the time (although Patrician rightly points out you can lower that % by picking weaker fixtures for him as he'll usually score higher).

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I was just breaking the premise down and here are all those of over 25PpM (last season;s points and this seasons prices
van Dijk LIV DEF 6.5 208 32.00
Robertson LIV DEF 7 213 30.43
Alisson LIV GKP 6 176 29.33
Pickford EVE GKP 5.5 161 29.27
Fabianski WHU GKP 5 143 28.60
Ederson MCI GKP 6 169 28.17
David Luiz CHE DEF 6 164 27.33
Laporte MCI DEF 6.5 177 27.23
Alexander-Arnold LIV DEF 7 185 26.43
Lloris TOT GKP 5.5 145 26.36
Azpilicueta CHE DEF 6 158 26.33
Digne EVE DEF 6 158 26.33
Dubravka NEW GKP 5 131 26.20
Kepa CHE GKP 5.5 142 25.82
Foster WAT GKP 5 129 25.80
van Aanholt CRY DEF 5.5 140 25.45
Walker MCI DEF 6 150 25.00


Admittedly I had yo use 2 Sources for this so there may be some errors

[itslikebrandnew]

The problem comes in midfield and attack, and then making sure you use 100m

I think i'm almost there now and about to post v9 of rmt

[Ironfist]

...
Pickford
Stek - 9.5m and worth the 0.5m as Pickford was 3rd in PpM for Gk's and they should be better this season.
...
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There was a general anti-Pickford sentiment last season... was it just because of him trash-talking Alison or was there a playing reason?
And aren't two Everton defenders (Pickford & Digne) a bit much considering their early season(s) records?

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Pickford is 2nd in my last season's points and this one's price, and Stek at 4m means the pair are only 9.5m. Whoops, as above and Allison is a daft pick?

I wouldn't have Digne too and I may need to not make drunken transfers when they make their traditional bad start...

[Taff Murray]

I am thinking maybe Leno & Martinez rather than Pickford/Stekelenberg as the possible pairing as I already have Digne and not sure I want to double up on Everton defence right from the start.

[Ironfist]

Pick&Stek are 9.5m, 14 CSs and 161pts between them (with Stek playing 0 mins).
Leno&Marti ae 9.5m, 6 CSs and 106 pts between them (with Marti playing 0 mins).

Everton have far superior fixtures to Arsenal.
Everton Keeper(s) have better stats.

Why does Leno even come into consideration? ...setting aside Everton's season start record.

[blahblah]

Don't know, but I have Pickford better than Digne who is behind Mendy\Zin so I'm struggling with the Digne love...

[Taff Murray]

Pick&Stek are 9.5m, 14 CSs and 161pts between them (with Stek playing 0 mins).
Leno&Marti ae 9.5m, 6 CSs and 106 pts between them (with Marti playing 0 mins).

Everton have far superior fixtures to Arsenal.
Everton Keeper(s) have better stats.

Why does Leno even come into consideration? ...setting aside Everton's season start record.

Two reasons.

• 1) I have Digne and am nervous about having two Everton defsive units. Been stung with that before.
  2) I can't believe Arsenal will have as bad a season as last year defensively and they are in theory still a top 6 side..

I am just trying to find the best goalkeeping pair for my team.