Earning a lot of money for being "unemployable"stevejtr wrote:
Lets be honest. The reason they go into HR is because otherwise they'd be totally unemployable and therefore costing the country a fortune
Let's be honest
Earning a lot of money for being "unemployable"stevejtr wrote:
Lets be honest. The reason they go into HR is because otherwise they'd be totally unemployable and therefore costing the country a fortune
No, left Cornwall nearly 10 years ago, living in Hampshire now, but thanks for the thoughtunc.si. wrote:Vid. You in Cornwall or have I got that wrong? What sort of driving do you do? Know a haulage firm down there that does local runs and trunk routes for one of the pallet networks. Know the FD so can ask if they're hiring if you like. Think I 'know' you enough to say that you're an honest guy.
HR are there for the strategic OD too - in a good organisation they are there to ensure there is a motivated and appropriately skilled workforce in the right numbers and in the right places to give the organisation a competitive advantage.unc.si. wrote:Of course HR's important. Employment law is a nightmare and you need suitably qualified people to guide you through it.
We used to call them the overheads though . Probably a bit harsh, although they were just about the least qualified people in the firm. Still necessary though. Someone's got to draft the compromise agreements when you want to get rid of someone.
Margaret, our HR department, is a nice lady but I'm quite sure the title has nothing to do with the generally understood role of HR, we go to see her if we change address for her to file it or if we need a new electric fob to open the gate, that sort of thingGroomyd wrote:HR are there for the strategic OD too - in a good organisation they are there to ensure there is a motivated and appropriately skilled workforce in the right numbers and in the right places to give the organisation a competitive advantage.unc.si. wrote:Of course HR's important. Employment law is a nightmare and you need suitably qualified people to guide you through it.
We used to call them the overheads though . Probably a bit harsh, although they were just about the least qualified people in the firm. Still necessary though. Someone's got to draft the compromise agreements when you want to get rid of someone.
Employment law is just one (small) part of what they do
But not as well paid as the legal "profession"tedbull wrote:Well its either HR or become an Estate Agent. HR's probably better hours.
Sounds like HR speak to meGroomyd wrote:HR are there for the strategic OD too - in a good organisation they are there to ensure there is a motivated and appropriately skilled workforce in the right numbers and in the right places to give the organisation a competitive advantage.unc.si. wrote:Of course HR's important. Employment law is a nightmare and you need suitably qualified people to guide you through it.
We used to call them the overheads though . Probably a bit harsh, although they were just about the least qualified people in the firm. Still necessary though. Someone's got to draft the compromise agreements when you want to get rid of someone.
Employment law is just one (small) part of what they do
Even worse is when the boss is head of HR and the rest of HR are just sycophants towing the lineMystery wrote:In an ideal world yes, but too many businesses use HR as a tool to beat staff down. I've seen too many good HR people squeezed out for not being commercial.
Speak concisely in your notice letter. If they want the benefit of your opinion as to why you're leaving then speak freely. If they don't it's their loss.
Yes, just that. You never know which colleagues you will stumble across in future and in what way. Accounatncy, for instance, is quite incestuous *stevejtr wrote:Keep any letter short. Salient points only. They don't really need to know why you're leaving. Never burn bridges.
If they're that poor then anyone with half a brain (thus bringing into play at least a likely handful of HR folk with a bit of luck...) will already know. The attrition rate and absence stats should already be known and being benchmarked.
that sounds good to me and a positive...if things dont change then you know the decision to be made....as said above and i tried to imply I would never burn bridges because you never know who knows who etc.....Vid wrote:Well, that didn't go as expected.
None of the 6 front line managers are there today, probably due to no deliveries over the next 2 days so the main part of their role isn't there to do. Instead their managers are covering them today, so after a 20 minute or so chat it's been agreed that they'll have a discussion with their boss (the Depot Manager) to see if they can find a workable solution for me. I've said fine, I'll give it a go and if after a couple of months I still can't cope I'll go then. If they can't come up with something that I consider worth a try then the notice stands.
Thanks for all the advice and comments. FISO as always the best place to seek opinions on both things that matter and those that don't
Cheers, we're nicely sheltered where we are, bet the wind really whips around where you are though.Bunners wrote:
that sounds good to me and a positive...if things dont change then you know the decision to be made....as said above and i tried to imply I would never burn bridges because you never know who knows who etc.....
have a fab christmas vid and hope your house survived the weather down here
good good....yep the house behind has had its outer skin of bricks torn from the side of the house...all very scary....and we have some water in the 3rd bedroom though no obvious entry point for that water...yetVid wrote:Cheers, we're nicely sheltered where we are, bet the wind really whips around where you are though.Bunners wrote:
that sounds good to me and a positive...if things dont change then you know the decision to be made....as said above and i tried to imply I would never burn bridges because you never know who knows who etc.....
have a fab christmas vid and hope your house survived the weather down here
Logistics generally is hugely incestuous. Accountancy also. I wouldn't be in my currently role without it...bluenosey wrote:Yes, just that. You never know which colleagues you will stumble across in future and in what way. Accounatncy, for instance, is quite incestuous *
*Perhaps not the best word ( ) but everyone seems to know everybody else.
Some, but not enough.WilBert wrote:Litmus test - will you miss the people more than the job?