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How can you seal off electrical wires!

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Hello

I have 2 sets of 3 wires in the side walls that lights in them.

Dont need the lights and looking to close off the wiring.

Problem is on how to seal off the wires before pushing them back into the wall.

If I add the plastic bits (Very technical!) and electrical tape, it then means I have to make a much bigger hole in the wall to push them in.

Can I just remove the plastic bits and simply seal with electrical tape or is that dangerous!

Help please

I am supposed to be doing this tonight so all advice or direction appreciated

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Tape would be OK if the ends are kept apart. Can you tape the ends to the cable?

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yep, tape should be okay if done properly - be careful that at least one of the ends is well clear of the hole when you fill it (filler will be wet so if you dont seal the ends well with tape and you smear wet filler over both ends you could make a short)

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get a qualified electrician in before you kill yourself.

p.s. i've just capped them and pushed them back into the wall myself.

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Anarchy wrote:yep, tape should be okay if done properly - be careful that at least one of the ends is well clear of the hole when you fill it (filler will be wet so if you dont seal the ends well with tape and you smear wet filler over both ends you could make a short)
With a big flash and Bang! With luck you will not go flying across the room, but the electric will go off, so do not do it after dark.

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if padmole doesn't reply by close of play tomorrow then we can only fear the worst...

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Madchester wrote:if padmole doesn't reply by close of play tomorrow then we can only fear the worst...
He has been quiet for a few hours :shock:

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r.i.p.

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This is worrying..........


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Maybe one of us should have reminded him to turn off the mains before taping the ends :shock: :cry:

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Anarchy wrote:Maybe one of us should have reminded him to turn off the mains before taping the ends :shock: :cry:
:idea: You don't think they were live?

:idea: Nah, he would have got zapped before taping the ends. Wouldn't he? :shock:

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Don't want to be a 'killjoy' here, but I believe that it is now illegal in the UK to do your own LX work unless you are a qualified electrician or have your work checked by one.

'Nanny state', perhaps, but be warned.

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Flyman wrote:Don't want to be a 'killjoy' here, but I believe that it is now illegal in the UK to do your own LX work unless you are a qualified electrician or have your work checked by one.

'Nanny state', perhaps, but be warned.

:idea: Isn't that joining wires/gas etc?

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blahblah wrote:
Flyman wrote:Don't want to be a 'killjoy' here, but I believe that it is now illegal in the UK to do your own LX work unless you are a qualified electrician or have your work checked by one.

'Nanny state', perhaps, but be warned.

:idea: Isn't that joining wires/gas etc?
I think Flyman's right.... you can carry out work yourself but it has to signed off by a qualified sparky

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barry wrote:
blahblah wrote:
Flyman wrote:Don't want to be a 'killjoy' here, but I believe that it is now illegal in the UK to do your own LX work unless you are a qualified electrician or have your work checked by one.

'Nanny state', perhaps, but be warned.

:idea: Isn't that joining wires/gas etc?
I think Flyman's right.... you can carry out work yourself but it has to signed off by a qualified sparky
I hope he doesn't need signing off by a doctor :idea:

Getting into that light bulb, now

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barry wrote:
blahblah wrote:
Flyman wrote:Don't want to be a 'killjoy' here, but I believe that it is now illegal in the UK to do your own LX work unless you are a qualified electrician or have your work checked by one.

'Nanny state', perhaps, but be warned.

:idea: Isn't that joining wires/gas etc?
I think Flyman's right.... you can carry out work yourself but it has to signed off by a qualified sparky
Would this include a simple thing like fitting a dimmer switch? Surely not?

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Flipside wrote:
barry wrote:
blahblah wrote:
Flyman wrote:Don't want to be a 'killjoy' here, but I believe that it is now illegal in the UK to do your own LX work unless you are a qualified electrician or have your work checked by one.

'Nanny state', perhaps, but be warned.

:idea: Isn't that joining wires/gas etc?
I think Flyman's right.... you can carry out work yourself but it has to signed off by a qualified sparky
Would this include a simple thing like fitting a dimmer switch? Surely not?
taken from the first link following a googlesearch (british gas I think)

Work you can do yourself

Replacing existing accessories such as lights, sockets outlets, ceiling roses, switches, fused spurs etc
Adding lighting points to an existing circuit in other locations like dining rooms, lounges or bedrooms
Disconnecting and reconnecting existing equipment

Work you cannot do yourself

Complete new or rewiring job
Fuse box change
Adding lighting points to an existing circuit in a “special location” like the kitchen, bathroom or garden
Installing electrical earth connections to pipework and metalwork
Adding a new circuit

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Flipside wrote:
barry wrote:
blahblah wrote:
Flyman wrote:Don't want to be a 'killjoy' here, but I believe that it is now illegal in the UK to do your own LX work unless you are a qualified electrician or have your work checked by one.

'Nanny state', perhaps, but be warned.

:idea: Isn't that joining wires/gas etc?
I think Flyman's right.... you can carry out work yourself but it has to signed off by a qualified sparky
Would this include a simple thing like fitting a dimmer switch? Surely not?
Yes, I believe so. Legislation came in about 2 years ago. Probably doesn't have any repurcussions in most cases (who's to know?) but if you're doing work to sell on a property it's a must.

I think you can still replace your lightbulbs though. :roll:

"Joining wires to gas" is never a good idea, though, qualified or not. :wink:
Edit: Thanks, Barry. Good stuff to know! 8-)

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but more to the point - still no word from padmole :shock:

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNMjE6OQOow

makes me laugh everytime.

btw if its illegal to do your own electrical work, surely you should have a certificate before you buy any obvious electrical stuff like an RCB board. I always thought that if you are paid to do a job involving electricity/gas you should have a certificate. eg. I go into fit a kitchen floor, I cannot remove the cooker be it gas or electricity. As they are paying me to fit the floor, however they could go and ask the next door neighbour to do it and thats okay. Or am I getting my wires crossed ( :roll: ).

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Post by padmole »

OUCH

So you don't use a wet cloth and a sharp screwdriver then!

I did the brave thing and got my mates dad round who is a qualified electrician.

ie I let him do a "Roy Rogers" of a job on my wall.

Currently drying with polyfilla for a weekend of being in doing painting. What a great way to spend only the second weekend of sun of the summer.

APOLOGIES to those that had hoped I would not be back on FISO - Thanks to those for the good and bad advice. I am sure the wife signed on under a pseudonym at one stage!

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padmole wrote:OUCH

So you don't use a wet cloth and a sharp screwdriver then!

I did the brave thing and got my mates dad round who is a qualified electrician.

ie I let him do a "Roy Rogers" of a job on my wall.

Currently drying with polyfilla for a weekend of being in doing painting. What a great way to spend only the second weekend of sun of the summer.

APOLOGIES to those that had hoped I would not be back on FISO - Thanks to those for the good and bad advice. I am sure the wife signed on under a pseudonym at one stage!
:D hurray!!

remember build the polyfilla up in layers and if it's a big hole you can patch it first with a thick piece of card and some string :wink:

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Used a plastic bag to fill part of the gap - hope it doesn't constitute a link of any sort

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padmole wrote:Used a plastic bag to fill part of the gap - hope it doesn't constitute a link of any sort
You can tell us if it sparks and burns the house down? :wink:

Glad you're still alive. :idea:

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padmole wrote:Used a plastic bag to fill part of the gap - hope it doesn't constitute a link of any sort


Isn't it illegal to use plastic bags for filling holes in walls.....?




Surely you should be recycling them?!! :?



Hope the law doesn't catch you - especially if it's a 'bag for life!!!' :lol: :wink:

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There is only one "bag for life" that springs to mind - but she is out on a bike ride at the moment! :wink:

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padmole wrote:There is only one "bag for life" that springs to mind - but she is out on a bike ride at the moment! :wink:
She got a saddle? :wink:

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