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Will the UK leave on Halloween?

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Yes with the May deal
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Yes with a Boris deal
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8%
Yes with no deal
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No there will be a further extension
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20%
 
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Post by murf » 15 Mar 2019, 23:12

And do you find hard border amusing too?

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Post by Spinynorman » 15 Mar 2019, 23:15

202 pages on and at the time of posting I thought I was asking such a simple question.

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Post by forestfan » 15 Mar 2019, 23:17

Billy Whiz wrote:
15 Mar 2019, 22:56
BTW, we've now passed 6,000 posts on this thread (it was around 4pm to be precise) - the longest thread in the rich and diverse history of fiso
How can you tell what the longest ever FISO thread is? Is there a stats page?

Surely there must be a football thread that’s come close...

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Post by blahblah » 15 Mar 2019, 23:18

murf wrote:
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And do you find hard border amusing too?
Nope I can be mature :shock:

The hard border will be bloody, which won't come out in a hot wash.

Seriously though, this debacle will lead to blood on the streets and all involved should be in the dock as should Blair for Kelly's death and that illegal war.

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Post by forestfan » 15 Mar 2019, 23:18

Spinynorman wrote:
15 Mar 2019, 23:15
202 pages on and at the time of posting I thought I was asking such a simple question.
So simple a question it’s been, to a greater or lesser degree, at the forefront of UK politics for 45 years :wink:

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Post by Billy Whiz » 15 Mar 2019, 23:20

@forestfan - I had a quick root around and couldn't find a longer one. The playing/drinking one takes 2nd place I think

@ Spiny - perhaps there should be an ongoing award for the fisoer who starts the longest thread 8-)

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Post by forestfan » 15 Mar 2019, 23:22

blahblah wrote:
15 Mar 2019, 23:18
murf wrote:
15 Mar 2019, 23:12
And do you find hard border amusing too?
Nope I can be mature :shock:

The hard border will be bloody, which won't come out in a hot wash.

Seriously though, this debacle will lead to blood on the streets and all involved should be in the dock as should Blair for Kelly's death and that illegal war.
He played a large part in achieving the now threatened peace in NI though... and I still maintain that Iraq was based on best information available at the time, and in the wake of 9/11 all bets were off. And you can’t prosecute someone for a suicide, unless you believe in conspiracy theories.

I’ve never got this “illegal war” thing anyway. If you don’t like the leadership of a country it’s permissible to declare war on them, and always has been, surely? (Edit: It’s seemingly governed by the UN, but can you leave the UN if you want to flout it? Is that harder than Brexit? :wink: )
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Post by blahblah » 15 Mar 2019, 23:26

forestfan wrote:
15 Mar 2019, 23:22
blahblah wrote:
15 Mar 2019, 23:18
murf wrote:
15 Mar 2019, 23:12
And do you find hard border amusing too?
Nope I can be mature :shock:

The hard border will be bloody, which won't come out in a hot wash.

Seriously though, this debacle will lead to blood on the streets and all involved should be in the dock as should Blair for Kelly's death and that illegal war.
He played a large part in achieving the now threatened peace in NI though... and I still maintain that Iraq was based on best information available at the time, and in the wake of 9/11 all bets were off. And you can’t prosecute someone for a suicide, unless you believe in conspiracy theories.

Kelly was taken out, and indeed to NI, but maybe he got a bit Napoleone\Adolf re Iraq?

What got me was that we\they couldn't\didn't even plant evidence. Jeepers WD40 is a quid a can?

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Post by Billy Whiz » 15 Mar 2019, 23:38

Someone earlier was wondering how many people out there actually know what the customs union is (to say nothing of BINO and the backstop). So here's a useful "Idiot's guide to Brexit", courtesy of the Irish Times, for anyone who feels in need of a refresher (not that there are any idiots on fiso of course :wink:)

Idiot's guide to Brexit

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Post by forestfan » 16 Mar 2019, 00:03

blahblah wrote:
15 Mar 2019, 23:26
forestfan wrote:
15 Mar 2019, 23:22
blahblah wrote:
15 Mar 2019, 23:18
murf wrote:
15 Mar 2019, 23:12
And do you find hard border amusing too?
Nope I can be mature :shock:

The hard border will be bloody, which won't come out in a hot wash.

Seriously though, this debacle will lead to blood on the streets and all involved should be in the dock as should Blair for Kelly's death and that illegal war.
He played a large part in achieving the now threatened peace in NI though... and I still maintain that Iraq was based on best information available at the time, and in the wake of 9/11 all bets were off. And you can’t prosecute someone for a suicide, unless you believe in conspiracy theories.

Kelly was taken out, and indeed to NI, but maybe he got a bit Napoleone\Adolf re Iraq?
It was blindly following Bush that was perhaps the mistake... Parliament backed it of course. Should they all be in the dock for it? The information stacked up as far as most of them knew. Can a democratic decision be a war crime? I guess that’s stable majority government for you :wink:

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Post by murf » 16 Mar 2019, 00:13

This may be the longest thread in proper FISO but the ghetto dwellers have a single ongoing ghetto thread that is twice as long as this to save them having to venture out and find a new thread each week (like the sophisticated TFF players can manage).

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Post by Zimmerman » 16 Mar 2019, 06:32

Billy Whiz wrote:
15 Mar 2019, 23:38
Someone earlier was wondering how many people out there actually know what the customs union is (to say nothing of BINO and the backstop). So here's a useful "Idiot's guide to Brexit", courtesy of the Irish Times, for anyone who feels in need of a refresher (not that there are any idiots on fiso of course :wink:)

Idiot's guide to Brexit
And yet no definition of gammon or snowflake 😃

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Post by unc.si. » 16 Mar 2019, 10:27

Well last week was fun. Brexit secretary proposing an amendment and then voting against it. Still, at least he hasn’t resigned yet, so voting against himself could be seen as an improvement of sorts. Rebellions against the whip, including one of the whips themselves (due to pairing agreement but still, some papers don’t let that get in the way of a good story), general eff wittery and good old Nige making lots of noise without saying anything in the EU chambers.
I’d imagine some of the EU would be quite glad to see the back of the meandering, shambolic rabble currently residing in Westminster.

Quite liked this from a newspaper opinion piece
Watching the United Kingdom shitshow this week and idly identifying culprits that ruined the franchise, you really don’t have to look a lot further than Racist Scrappy-Doo, whose best point about himself is that he isn’t Tommy Robinson.
Not sure who they’re talking about though ......

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Post by Zimmerman » 16 Mar 2019, 10:41

Farage’s betrayal march is looking positively pathetic.

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Post by forestfan » 16 Mar 2019, 10:53

Zimmerman wrote:
16 Mar 2019, 10:41
Farage’s betrayal march is looking positively pathetic.
So not many people actually want to march most of the length of the country to demand the right to lose their jobs and go hungry, as one report put it, then? What a surprise...

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Post by Maldini » 16 Mar 2019, 12:53

Leave means Leave are saying 200 have shelled out £50 to take part in Farage’s ‘Gammonball Run’.

More reliable sources claim around 100.


https://news.sky.com/story/nigel-farage ... m=referral

Quite surprised he turned up at all.

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Post by Spinynorman » 16 Mar 2019, 22:11

Billy Whiz wrote:
15 Mar 2019, 23:20
@forestfan - I had a quick root around and couldn't find a longer one. The playing/drinking one takes 2nd place I think

@ Spiny - perhaps there should be an ongoing award for the fisoer who starts the longest thread 8-)


I think I contribute more to the currently playing and drinking one. :mrgreen:

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Post by forestfan » 17 Mar 2019, 09:30

Theresa May urging MPs to act like “patriots” to get the deal over the line. Well, I suppose Tom Brady and co. usually manage to achieve their objective, even if they’ve been accused of doing so by dubious means on occasions...

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Post by Stemania » 18 Mar 2019, 09:34

Presumably they're walking from Sunderland as a metaphor for the post-Brexit UK car industry. :wink:

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forestfan wrote:
17 Mar 2019, 09:30
Theresa May urging MPs to act like “patriots” to get the deal over the line. Well, I suppose Tom Brady and co. usually manage to achieve their objective, even if they’ve been accused of doing so by dubious means on occasions...
Hmm, the Pats tanking :shock:

The only thing this is missing is a Streaker in the Commons :lol:

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forestfan wrote:
16 Mar 2019, 10:53
Zimmerman wrote:
16 Mar 2019, 10:41
Farage’s betrayal march is looking positively pathetic.
So not many people actually want to march most of the length of the country to demand the right to lose their jobs and go hungry, as one report put it, then? What a surprise...
I get the irony, but in this age of comfort and most people wouldn't march the length of the country to demand anything. I admire people who feel so strongly about a principle they believe in that they're prepared to walk the length of the country in support of it. Far better that than behave as the French yellow vests do and go round smashing things up.

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Billy Whiz wrote:
18 Mar 2019, 15:09
forestfan wrote:
16 Mar 2019, 10:53
Zimmerman wrote:
16 Mar 2019, 10:41
Farage’s betrayal march is looking positively pathetic.
So not many people actually want to march most of the length of the country to demand the right to lose their jobs and go hungry, as one report put it, then? What a surprise...
I get the irony, but in this age of comfort and most people wouldn't march the length of the country to demand anything. I admire people who feel so strongly about a principle they believe in that they're prepared to walk the length of the country in support of it. Far better that than behave as the French yellow vests do and go round smashing things up.
All 100 of them Even Farage couldn't be bothered to turn up on Sunday. Really principled .

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Post by Billy Whiz » 18 Mar 2019, 17:46

So they can't win: if they turn up they're laughable Gammonballs; if they don't stick it out they're unprincipled.

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Billy Whiz wrote:
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So they can't win: if they turn up they're laughable Gammonballs; if they don't stick it out they're unprincipled.
No one cared enough to turn up.

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Post by Stemania » 18 Mar 2019, 18:29

So it turns out Erskine May means May may not Ersk. :lol:

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Post by forestfan » 18 Mar 2019, 18:47

What next then? An ongoing row about bringing the deal back, moving us closer to a default no-deal?

Presumably the extension, if offered, will have to come back for parliamentary approval? There won't be a lot of time remaining then. Anything else Brexit-related potentially on the table to vote on this week?

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Post by Billy Whiz » 18 Mar 2019, 19:25

I must say a No deal exit on the 29th is looking increasingly likely following Bercow's ruling :?

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Post by forestfan » 18 Mar 2019, 19:39

Billy Whiz wrote:
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I must say a No deal exit on the 29th is looking increasingly likely following Bercow's ruling :?
It’s certainly thrown all the cards up in the air again, and made it a whole new ball game :wink:

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Post by liquidfootball2 » 18 Mar 2019, 19:52

John Bercow has never kept his sympathies particularly well hidden, infact quite the opposite, and is entirely within his rights to use the rule book to disallow a further attempt for May, such was always a very possible outcome.

He may on the surface have revived the prospect of a no-deal by blocking Mrs May's attempt to put her deal to Parliament yet again, but in reality this seems highly improbable. He made clear it could be considered with changes, and there is only one direction the EU would let it change: in a softer direction.

As much as 'true' Brexiteers might celebrate the Speaker's decision today, he may have played a decisive hand in stitching up an even softer Brexit, and perhaps giving those who have always wanted to remain the momentum they need to make absolutely certain, even if that takes the charade of another referendum.

I will be pleased with the result but very uneasy at the process that has led to it.

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Post by forestfan » 18 Mar 2019, 20:00

I think there's an increasing chance that things happen so last minute that we get to 30th March and aren't quite sure whether we've actually left or not, and legal challenges are going on left, right and centre.

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