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unc.si. wrote: 13 Oct 2019, 22:08
Dot wrote: 13 Oct 2019, 19:46
Call me old fashioned but I don't believe or agree with a few years residency in a country should qualify any individual for national citizenship.

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Michael Leach. Great player. Fijian parents, born in New Zealand, moved to Japan when he was a kid. I wouldn’t have much of an issue with him playing for any of those 3 countries.

To be honest mate I just enjoy watching the game. More important things to get angry about than what country someone plays sport for.
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I'm not angry at all, I just think its pathetic. :lol: Much like The English so called cricket team having more players born outside the British isles calling themselves English.

I pretty much despise all the international sports for this very reason. I wouldn't bother with an England game in anything now days as I wouldn't call half the payers English, in the true sense.

I just happened to see the tv in the pub and gave it a double take when someone suggested it was Japan playing :lol: even the rugby fans watching agreed with me that it was a joke.

Perhaps if i spend just a few more weeks a year in Spain i can apply for a dual nationality passport.

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Sorry to disturb the debate, update will not be until tonight due to work comittments.

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I have always been troubled by the passport of convenience in sport. I don't see this guy as the worst example - went on a school exchange to Japan, liked it enough to return for his university years, now a Japanese citizen. If you live and work and pay taxes somewhere full time and have the passport then it is hard to argue against, but I fear some countries are handing out passports and bribes to suddenly become top sporting nations.

The central issue to me in terms of wearing the shirt is whether you commit to the culture. I lived overseas full time for 3 years, tax resident. But whilst I tried to fit in, respect the ways of my new location etc and learned as much about the place as I could, for much of the time I hung out with ex-pats in ex-pat locations, shopped at ex-pat supermarkets etc. I certainly remained British in my mind and even if allowed to vote in my temporary home would never have done so as it felt wrong.

It does not stop me watching sport or enjoying sport, but it does seem a tad ridiculous when a country celebrates and a flag is raised for someone who has clearly not committed themselves to that country/flag for anything other than sporting representation (often because they would have little chance of getting into the national team of their actual country).

There also seems to be a wide variety in how rules are applied. Jofra Archer's dad is British, and in many sports that is nationality sorted. But because he had not lived here, he had a qualifying period. It would be nice if sports could come together and have a consistent set of rules on this.

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I think that is part of the problem, the different rules in different sports. Seemingly every way of measuring it has its drawbacks but it would be good if all sports followed the same structure.

Unfortunately this issue often has a much darker undertone which I see no point in engaging with.

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DavidLloydIsAHero wrote: 14 Oct 2019, 10:27 I think that is part of the problem, the different rules in different sports. Seemingly every way of measuring it has its drawbacks but it would be good if all sports followed the same structure.

Unfortunately this issue often has a much darker undertone which I see no point in engaging with.
indeed.

Interesting that when Jack Charlton was Ireland manager his efforts to make everyone Irish raised a smile more often than not, yet when others do it a rather different response tends to arise. Reminds me of that Blackadder episode where the British spies were heroes but German spies underhand so and sos...

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raoul wrote: 14 Oct 2019, 11:46
DavidLloydIsAHero wrote: 14 Oct 2019, 10:27 I think that is part of the problem, the different rules in different sports. Seemingly every way of measuring it has its drawbacks but it would be good if all sports followed the same structure.

Unfortunately this issue often has a much darker undertone which I see no point in engaging with.
indeed.

Interesting that when Jack Charlton was Ireland manager his efforts to make everyone Irish raised a smile more often than not, yet when others do it a rather different response tends to arise. Reminds me of that Blackadder episode where the British spies were heroes but German spies underhand so and sos...
Surely he had no issue finding some plastic paddies, they're bloody everywhere

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Argentina and Uruguay are the only teams in this world cup where all the players are born and bred from their country.

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jimmy ching wrote: 14 Oct 2019, 18:59 Argentina and Uruguay are the only teams in this world cup where all the players are born and bred from their country.
I think Namibia are all home grown too

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Spencer4 wrote: 13 Oct 2019, 11:19
Spencer4 wrote: 12 Oct 2019, 15:23
Spencer4 wrote: 11 Oct 2019, 13:49 First game from last set:

Richt (Samoa) 31 - 21 forestfan (Ireland)
SamD (Scotland) 26 - 15 DLIAH (Japan)
(Maldini) average of below game (Italy) 19 - 22 Boddington (N Zealand)
Kingcurtley (Namibia) 26 - 17 thebillfella (Canada)
The Bear (France) 33 - 27 megadyl (England)
bluenosey (Tonga) 44 - 33 Spinynorman (USA)
Surprised (Wales) 41 - 66 tyaslevesley (Uruguay)
Spencer4 (Georgia) 21 - 46 Mo Bot (Fiji)
After ireland win

Richt (Samoa) 69 - 69 forestfan (Ireland)
SamD (Scotland) 48 - 46 DLIAH (Japan)
(Maldini) average of below game (Italy) 53 - 46 Boddington (N Zealand)
Kingcurtley (Namibia) 48 - 48 thebillfella (Canada)
The Bear (France) 58 - 58 megadyl (England)
bluenosey (Tonga) 58 - 59 Spinynorman (USA)
Surprised (Wales) 83 - 78 tyaslevesley (Uruguay)
Spencer4 (Georgia) 47 - 73 Mo Bot (Fiji)
Just the Wales v Japan game to go...

Richt (Samoa) 126 - 106 forestfan (Ireland)
SamD (Scotland) 95 - 91 DLIAH (Japan)
(Maldini) average of below game (Italy) 102 - 96 Boddington (N Zealand)
Kingcurtley (Namibia) 88 - 106 thebillfella (Canada)
The Bear (France) 117 - 109 megadyl (England)
bluenosey (Tonga) 115 - 103 Spinynorman (USA)
Surprised (Wales) 115 - 148 tyaslevesley (Uruguay)
Spencer4 (Georgia) 90 - 122 Mo Bot (Fiji)
Richt (Samoa) 150 - 122 forestfan (Ireland)
SamD (Scotland) 97 - 116 DLIAH (Japan)
(Maldini) average of below game (Italy) 115 - 107 Boddington (N Zealand)
Kingcurtley (Namibia) 111 - 114 thebillfella (Canada)
The Bear (France) 144 - 116 megadyl (England)
bluenosey (Tonga) 130 - 117 Spinynorman (USA)
Surprised (Wales) 117 - 185 tyaslevesley (Uruguay)
Spencer4 (Georgia) 106 - 137 Mo Bot (Fiji)


Richt (Samoa) 30 - 24 forestfan (Ireland)
SamD (Scotland) 19 - 23 DLIAH (Japan)
(Maldini) average of below game (Italy) 23 - 21 Boddington (N Zealand)
Kingcurtley (Namibia) 22 - 22 thebillfella (Canada)
The Bear (France) 28 - 23 megadyl (England)
bluenosey (Tonga) 26 - 23 Spinynorman (USA)
Surprised (Wales) 23 - 37 tyaslevesley (Uruguay)
Spencer4 (Georgia) 21 - 27 Mo Bot (Fiji)


Japan's win makes a big difference in many ties, but now the dust has settled, only Mo Bot's Fijians have won every game. Two other unbeaten teams are Jimmy Ching's Argies and 2011 champ Namibia, coached by kingcurtley. DLIAH's Japan is the other group winner and these four will be kept apart for the quarters.

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Home advantage for the Group leaders, deadline Thursday midnight, other team by 08.15 BST Saturday please:

Jimmy Ching (Argentina) v Spencer4 (Georgia)
Kingcurtley (Namibia) v Richt (Samoa)
Mo Bot (Fiji) v The Bear (France)
DLIAH (Japan) v Boddington (N Zealand)

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England v Australia
New Zealand v Ireland
Wales v France
Japan v South Africa

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Christ! That's a shock...... I'm usually "the Scotland" of these types of competitions apart from the Cheltenham one!

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'A' looks like the group of death. Well played, Richt and DLIAH.

Thanks for the contest, Spencer4.

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Bottom again lol.

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Oh no. I've drawn the defending Champions.

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Kingcurtley (Namibia) v Richt (Samoa)

England v Australia, Eng, 5, 4
New Zealand v Ireland, NZ, 17, 6
Wales v France, Wales, 7, 5
Japan v South Africa, SA, 15, 6

Good luck!

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kingcurtley wrote: 16 Oct 2019, 10:35 Kingcurtley (Namibia) v Richt (Samoa)

England v Australia, Eng, 5, 4
New Zealand v Ireland, NZ, 17, 6
Wales v France, Wales, 7, 5
Japan v South Africa, SA, 15, 6

Good luck!
Richt v Kingcurtley


England v Australia, Eng, 6, 3
New Zealand v Ireland, NZ, 15, 5
Wales v France, Wales, 8, 4
Japan v South Africa, SA, 14, 5

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V Boddington

England v Australia, Eng, 8, 4
New Zealand v Ireland, NZ, 15, 6
Wales v France, Wales, 12, 5
Japan v South Africa, SA, 15, 6

Edit, fixed spelling of Boddington
Last edited by DavidLloydIsAHero on 17 Oct 2019, 23:36, edited 1 time in total.

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DavidLloydIsAHero wrote: 17 Oct 2019, 21:48 V Biddington

England v Australia, Eng, 8, 4
New Zealand v Ireland, NZ, 15, 6
Wales v France, Wales, 12, 5
Japan v South Africa, SA, 15, 6
DLIAH (Japan) v Boddington (N Zealand)
England v Australia, Eng, 12, 5
New Zealand v Ireland, NZ, 14, 5
Wales v France, Wales, 10, 4
Japan v South Africa, SA, 17, 5

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V the bear

England v Australia, Eng, 14, 5
New Zealand v Ireland, NZ, 9, 5
Wales v France, Wales, 16, 6
Japan v South Africa, SA, 10, 5


Good luck

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Jimmy Ching Vs Spencer
Pardon for the late entry.

England v Australia, Eng, 9, 5
New Zealand v Ireland, NZ, 14, 6
Wales v France, Wales, 5, 5
Japan v South Africa, SA, 7, 4

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vs Mo Bot

England v Australia, Eng, 12, 4
New Zealand v Ireland, NZ, 8, 4
Wales v France, France, 3,5
Japan v South Africa, SA, 20, 6

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jimmy ching wrote: 18 Oct 2019, 11:51 Jimmy Ching Vs Spencer
Pardon for the late entry.

England v Australia, Eng, 9, 5
New Zealand v Ireland, NZ, 14, 6
Wales v France, Wales, 5, 5
Japan v South Africa, SA, 7, 4
England v Australia, Eng, 6, 4
New Zealand v Ireland, NZ, 20, 5
Wales v France, Wales, 8, 4
Japan v South Africa, SA, 10, 6

GL

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After Eng beat Aussies

Jimmy Ching (Argentina) 33 - 25 Spencer4 (Georgia)
Kingcurtley (Namibia) 33 - 29 Richt (Samoa)
Mo Bot (Fiji) 27 -20 The Bear (France)
DLIAH (Japan) 22 - 31 Boddington (N Zealand)

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As an Irish Rugby supporter, I must say, a dream match will be played next week. It's mouth watering and it's only a semi. Both teams have taught Ireland a lesson.

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I think just before the kick off I'll be going GOTISE, (Go on then I'll support England), pronounced goaties,

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jimmy ching wrote: 19 Oct 2019, 14:32 As an Irish Rugby supporter, I must say, a dream match will be played next week. It's mouth watering and it's only a semi. Both teams have taught Ireland a lesson.
Giggity.

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After Nzl beat Irl

Jimmy Ching (Argentina) 60 - 53 Spencer4 (Georgia)
Kingcurtley (Namibia) 65 - 54 Richt (Samoa)
Mo Bot (Fiji) 66 -53 The Bear (France)
DLIAH (Japan) 55 - 58 Boddington (N Zealand)

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Spencer4 wrote: 20 Oct 2019, 08:09 After Nzl beat Irl

Jimmy Ching (Argentina) 60 - 53 Spencer4 (Georgia)
Kingcurtley (Namibia) 65 - 54 Richt (Samoa)
Mo Bot (Fiji) 66 -53 The Bear (France)
DLIAH (Japan) 55 - 58 Boddington (N Zealand)
Final Scores:

Jimmy Ching (Argentina) 115 - 94 Spencer4 (Georgia)
Kingcurtley (Namibia) 106 - 93 Richt (Samoa)
Mo Bot (Fiji) 98 -96 The Bear (France)
DLIAH (Japan) 95 - 102 Boddington (N Zealand)

So the champions, Georgia go home after basically stinking the competition out. The other winners of this comp, Namibia still look the ones to beat.

Mo Bot's Fiji just got the better of The Bear's France despite bear tipping France to win v Wales ! The only group winner to lose is DLIAH, Boddington steering his kiwis through at the death.

Semi-Final line up: All picks by PM please.

Tie-breaker in case of a draw - Number of points scored by all 4 teams in the semis

Jimmy Ching (Argentina) v Kingcurtley (Namibia)
Mo Bot (Fiji) v Boddington (N Zealand)

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Wales v South Africa

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jimmy ching wrote:25 Oct 2019, 19:26 England v New Zealand, NZ 5 points, 5 trys, 42 total
Wales v South Africa SA 12, 5, 43
kingcurtley wrote:25 Oct 2019, 09:49 Jimmy Ching (Argentina) v Kingcurtley (Namibia)

England v New Zealand, NZ, 9, 5
Wales v South Africa, SA, 11, 5

Tiebreaker - 100


No Show from Mo Bot so Boddington is through.

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Spencer4 wrote: 26 Oct 2019, 09:01
jimmy ching wrote:25 Oct 2019, 19:26 England v New Zealand, NZ 5 points, 5 trys, 42 total
Wales v South Africa SA 12, 5, 43
kingcurtley wrote:25 Oct 2019, 09:49 Jimmy Ching (Argentina) v Kingcurtley (Namibia)

England v New Zealand, NZ, 9, 5
Wales v South Africa, SA, 11, 5

Tiebreaker - 100


No Show from Mo Bot so Boddington is through.

Jimmy Ching (Argentina) 22 - 17 Kingcurtley (Namibia)
Boddington (N Zealand)

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Balls. Sorry to all involved and the integrity of the competition for missing the deadline. Good luck in the final.

For what it’s worth, I would have gone for a NZ win today and a Wales win by 12 tomorrow.

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