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Post by Crompton » 18 Dec 2006, 20:32

Malrom wrote:I'm still angry because of the "OWN" goal... :twisted: :twisted: :evil: :evil:
If Howard hadn't of bothered diving for it you maybe wouldn't of ended up with the 3 points. 8-)

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Post by anon6 » 18 Dec 2006, 20:33

Bramernic wrote:
Malrom wrote:I'm still angry because of the "OWN" goal... :twisted: :twisted: :evil: :evil:
Why?

Ballack's shot was off target, it hit the post. It only went in because it hit the keeper afterwards. That's a damn site clearer than a lot of the own goals that are given. :wink:
Didn't Howard get a hand to it in the first pla,ce, and knoked it onto th epost :?:

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Post by Crompton » 18 Dec 2006, 20:38

anon1086 wrote:
Bramernic wrote:
Malrom wrote:I'm still angry because of the "OWN" goal... :twisted: :twisted: :evil: :evil:
Why?

Ballack's shot was off target, it hit the post. It only went in because it hit the keeper afterwards. That's a damn site clearer than a lot of the own goals that are given. :wink:
Didn't Howard get a hand to it in the first pla,ce, and knoked it onto th epost :?:
I think you may be right.

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Post by reds363 » 18 Dec 2006, 20:43

Can Bram/anyone clear the following up please?

A few weeks ago there was a huge argument over why Rooney didn't get a KC for being fouled for a penalty, the answer was quite correctly that even though he seemed to be in control of the ball he never touched it.

So why did Pennant not get a KC this week? He was clearly not in control I agree but by the previous argument the key factor is whether he touched the ball, which he clearly did.

:?: :?: :?:

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Post by Bramernic » 18 Dec 2006, 20:49

1) Ballack - Howard's hand touched the ball on the way back from the post.
2) Pennant - he'd headed the ball towards the goal before he was fouled so wasn't in posession at the time of the foul.

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Post by Judio » 18 Dec 2006, 21:21

Latest FUL 2 MID 1

Helguson pen (Volz)
McBride (Radzinski) Shot was from inside the D on edge of box so will
be a KC in my opinion


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Post by Judio » 18 Dec 2006, 21:24

Bramernic wrote:1) Ballack - Howard's hand touched the ball on the way back from the post.
2) Pennant - he'd headed the ball towards the goal before he was fouled so wasn't in posession at the time of the foul.
Howard should get some credit

The slow motion showed he saved the free kick by tipping it onto the post.

The ball then came off the post and hit Howard on the back and went in
the net

Perhaps he should have twitched and the ball would have gone round the post :lol: :lol:

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Post by Bunners » 18 Dec 2006, 21:45

viduku, not sure if the yak will et a kc as im not an expert on predicting these :D

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Post by Malrom » 18 Dec 2006, 21:52

Bramernic wrote:
Malrom wrote:I'm still angry because of the "OWN" goal... :twisted: :twisted: :evil: :evil:
Why?

Ballack's shot was off target, it hit the post. It only went in because it hit the keeper afterwards. That's a damn site clearer than a lot of the own goals that are given. :wink:
YES, give me a hard time :!: :!: :twisted: :evil:

:wink: :wink:

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Post by Crookface » 18 Dec 2006, 22:09

Bunners wrote:viduku, not sure if the yak will et a kc as im not an expert on predicting these :D
Assist in the Bag Bunners my old chum..

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Post by Bunners » 18 Dec 2006, 22:34

Crookface wrote:
Bunners wrote:viduku, not sure if the yak will et a kc as im not an expert on predicting these :D
Assist in the Bag Bunners my old chum..
A little happier now that my tinker this evening kinda paid off, what with andy johnson not looking like hitting a cows backside witha banjo since I transferred him in about 9 games ago :twisted:

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Post by Bramernic » 18 Dec 2006, 23:21

Judio wrote:Latest FUL 2 MID 1

Helguson pen (Volz)
McBride (Radzinski) Shot was from inside the D on edge of box so will
be a KC in my opinion


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After watching SSN I agree that this will be the likely outcome.

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Post by murf » 18 Dec 2006, 23:39

Radzinski MOTM (Tele website)

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Post by tedbull » 19 Dec 2006, 05:52

gilva18 wrote:You guessed wrong, I saw the whole game. I agree Lescott played well (and by the way, he did not attempt to block Lamps or Drogba's shots) (guess he is a bit slow) but if a team concedes 3 goals a defender simply should not get MOM. Did Lescott assist in any of Evertons goals? No!
I'm prepared to guess that you have blue blood and are rather bias!
I do and I am! :wink:

By this rationale if a game finishes 0-0 only a defender can be the best player on the pitch as the strikers and midfielders failed in their primary aim - to create and score goals.

If a game finishes 1-0 then either the goalscorer or his defence can be MOM.

Personally, I'll stick with going for the best performance.

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Post by gilva18 » 19 Dec 2006, 09:16

tedbull wrote:
gilva18 wrote:You guessed wrong, I saw the whole game. I agree Lescott played well (and by the way, he did not attempt to block Lamps or Drogba's shots) (guess he is a bit slow) but if a team concedes 3 goals a defender simply should not get MOM. Did Lescott assist in any of Evertons goals? No!
I'm prepared to guess that you have blue blood and are rather bias!
I do and I am! :wink:

By this rationale if a game finishes 0-0 only a defender can be the best player on the pitch as the strikers and midfielders failed in their primary aim - to create and score goals.

If a game finishes 1-0 then either the goalscorer or his defence can be MOM.

Personally, I'll stick with going for the best performance.
Fair comment, enjoy your Everton mints from Santa at Christmas!!!

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Post by Judio » 19 Dec 2006, 09:25

Oliver Brown continues his awards for Strikers

Tomasz RADZINSKI (Fulham)

That is 10 Strikers in the 16 Matches he has Reported on

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Post by murf » 19 Dec 2006, 09:52

Judio wrote:Oliver Brown continues his awards for Strikers

Tomasz RADZINSKI (Fulham)

That is 10 Strikers in the 16 Matches he has Reported on
Why didn't he give it to McBride then rather than scuppering my MOTW chances. Git :evil:

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Post by murf » 19 Dec 2006, 11:10

Can anybody confirm last night's KCs from TFFO yet?

Ta

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Post by Bramernic » 19 Dec 2006, 11:35

murf wrote:Can anybody confirm last night's KCs from TFFO yet?

Ta
I guess you don't want to hear this, but it is as predicted.

Well done anyway.

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