Week 17 KCs and MotM Dec 5th 6th 9th 10th and 11th

Post by **tonyp** » 10 Dec 2006, 22:53

A feeble, flatulent fanfare. A ragged clatter on the drums. A figure totters into the spotlight, screwing up his eyes against the glare and clutching a newspaper from which steam gently rises...

Post by **Judio** » 10 Dec 2006, 22:54

Get typing tony

Post by **tonyp** » 10 Dec 2006, 22:56

First I would like you all to Rate My Team. In depth and in detail...

Post by **scarletjim** » 10 Dec 2006, 22:58

tonyp wrote:First I would like you all to Rate My Team. In depth and in detail...

... Stop teasing though!

Post by **tonyp** » 10 Dec 2006, 23:01

Very well. Since you are so impatient....

Gilberto Silva
Dirk Kuyt
Sean Davis
Gary Speed
Wayne Rooney
Tom Huddlestone
Mark Schwarzer
Nicky Butt
Ibrahima Sonko

Post by **tyaslevesley** » 10 Dec 2006, 23:01

He's enjoyed keeping us al waiting - and why not!

Cheers Tonyp

Post by **Judio** » 10 Dec 2006, 23:02

Thank You

Post by **Crompton** » 10 Dec 2006, 23:03

tonyp wrote:Very well. Since you are so impatient....

Gilberto Silva
Dirk Kuyt
Sean Davis
Gary Speed
Wayne Rooney
Tom Huddlestone
Mark Schwarzer
Nicky Butt
Ibrahima Sonko

Ah the token MOM as per.

IMO Ronaldo and Vidic were better.

Post by **scarletjim** » 10 Dec 2006, 23:04

Nice surprise that Kuyt got it. Makes up for Berbatov / Lennon not getting it I guess. Cheers Tonyp.

Post by **Judio** » 10 Dec 2006, 23:05

Completely different picks to the three Sunday papers !!!

Post by **PSA** » 10 Dec 2006, 23:06

Chelsea 1-1 Arsenal
Flamini (Hleb)
Essien (-)

As per Bram from his site. http://www.bramernic.co.uk/fsports/

Thanks alot Tony.

Post by **amaidment** » 10 Dec 2006, 23:14

tonyp wrote:Very well. Since you are so impatient....
Gilberto Silva
Dirk Kuyt
Sean Davis
Gary Speed
Wayne Rooney
Tom Huddlestone
Mark Schwarzer
Nicky Butt
Ibrahima Sonko

So is this the first time a player has scored 2 goals and not been given MOTM (i.e. Berbatov)??

Post by **RowdyRaver** » 10 Dec 2006, 23:15

No, but possibly the first to get 2 goals from open play and a KC and not get one

Post by **reds363** » 10 Dec 2006, 23:17

71 points for me this weekend, but not one MOM

. Oh well, can't complain with my score!

Post by **tonyp** » 10 Dec 2006, 23:19

Wait till you see The Sun. Adebayor 5/10, Hleb 6, Van Persie THREE. I have to play that stupid game.

Post by **lfc_steve** » 10 Dec 2006, 23:20

amaidment wrote:
tonyp wrote:Very well. Since you are so impatient....
Gilberto Silva
Dirk Kuyt
Sean Davis
Gary Speed
Wayne Rooney
Tom Huddlestone
Mark Schwarzer
Nicky Butt
Ibrahima Sonko
So is this the first time a player has scored 2 goals and not been given MOTM (i.e. Berbatov)??

Martins also scored twice this weekend

Post by **amaidment** » 10 Dec 2006, 23:24

lfc_steve wrote:
amaidment wrote:
tonyp wrote:Very well. Since you are so impatient....
Gilberto Silva
Dirk Kuyt
Sean Davis
Gary Speed
Wayne Rooney
Tom Huddlestone
Mark Schwarzer
Nicky Butt
Ibrahima Sonko
So is this the first time a player has scored 2 goals and not been given MOTM (i.e. Berbatov)??
Martins also scored twice this weekend

Seems like Telegraph have changed the way they give MOTM then...

Post by **Piesey1** » 10 Dec 2006, 23:25

Can't believe Berbatov didn't get the MOTM under Telegraph standards, although having been at the game Huddlestone was superb - an absolute rock in midfield and central to a lot of our attacking play.

About time it wasn't just given to someone who scores.

Post by **Steph** » 10 Dec 2006, 23:26

I agree - otherwise might as well just give 6 points for scoring a goal.

Post by **Crompton** » 10 Dec 2006, 23:30

spjwsmc wrote:I agree - otherwise might as well just give 6 points for scoring a goal.

You mean 8pts

Post by **dilwar** » 10 Dec 2006, 23:33

Another load of dubious decisions...

Huddlestone over Berbatov!
Rooney over Ronaldo!
Kyut over Gerrard!!

I am sure they do it just to p*&# us all off!

Anyway, thanks for bringing us the bad news early tonyp!

Post by **ethelmoomin** » 10 Dec 2006, 23:35

spjwsmc wrote:I agree - otherwise might as well just give 6 points for scoring a goal.

Did you mean eight - fivepoints for a goal and three for MOTM?

Post by **Piesey1** » 10 Dec 2006, 23:40

dilwar wrote:Another load of dubious decisions...

Huddlestone over Berbatov!
Rooney over Ronaldo!
Kyut over Gerrard!!

I am sure they do it just to p*&# us all off!

Anyway, thanks for bringing us the bad news early tonyp!

I think it's consistency we want..... Berby was quality, but over 90 mins Huddlestone stood out yesterday.
Maybe it's time for the writers to actually report on the games they're watching and not just give MOTM to the csorers/ big name players.

Post by **Steph** » 10 Dec 2006, 23:49

God knows what I meant

(except in Berbatov and Martins' case 8 points per goal would give them 16 points). My point basically was that if you want to value goal scoring more highly in tff, then simply award more points to a goal (whether it is 6, 8 or whatever).

As far as any man of the match rating goes (not that anyone except for us tff players actually cares), I think that a reporter shouldn't automatically rate someone as man of the match simply because they scored the most goals; Sometimes there will have been a better/more influential player on the pitch. Sometimes a player can be truly rubbish over the course of a game and still score a couple of goals.

Post by **Dave_E** » 11 Dec 2006, 00:21

Neva wrote:
derbynige wrote:surely lennon wil get kc for defoe goal?
The pass wasn't that important, it didn't split the defence or play Defoe into a good position, it was a great finish to score from there.

The Rooney one is interesting, I first thought definite KC but then I saw it was two deflections not just one and I changed my mind and now Bram thinks it might be so I haven’t got a clue. No doubt if he gets it there'll be cries of Rooney bias

I believe Bram's interpretation of this one hinges on e-mails seen from the Telegraph where they have stated that they have never given a KC for a tackle where the ball then goes to a player who shoots straightaway and scores. Personally, I wouldn't be suprised to see it given - in my view Lennon's touch was more of a directed interception than a tackle as such - but at the same time I can completely see why Bram has called it the way he has too. Will be an interesting test case I think.

Post by **Lucky7s** » 11 Dec 2006, 00:26

lfc_steve wrote:
amaidment wrote:
tonyp wrote:Very well. Since you are so impatient....
Gilberto Silva
Dirk Kuyt
Sean Davis
Gary Speed
Wayne Rooney
Tom Huddlestone
Mark Schwarzer
Nicky Butt
Ibrahima Sonko
So is this the first time a player has scored 2 goals and not been given MOTM (i.e. Berbatov)??
Martins also scored twice this weekend

... and Kevin Davies

Post by **axel** » 11 Dec 2006, 07:20

If this isn't a perfect example of why people need Rooney in there teams I don't know what is. Dodgiest decision so far.
Merry Christmas.

Post by **squirter** » 11 Dec 2006, 08:16

amaidment wrote:
lfc_steve wrote:
amaidment wrote:
tonyp wrote:Very well. Since you are so impatient....
Gilberto Silva
Dirk Kuyt
Sean Davis
Gary Speed
Wayne Rooney
Tom Huddlestone
Mark Schwarzer
Nicky Butt
Ibrahima Sonko
So is this the first time a player has scored 2 goals and not been given MOTM (i.e. Berbatov)??
Martins also scored twice this weekend
Seems like Telegraph have changed the way they give MOTM then...

last year it happened to lampard about 3 times.

Post by **tedbull** » 11 Dec 2006, 08:32

axel wrote:If this isn't a perfect example of why people need Rooney in there teams I don't know what is. Dodgiest decision so far.
Merry Christmas.

I didn't think Ronaldo was that great and would have gone for Ferdinand, Vidic or Scholes as the players did the most in a solid team performance.

That said, Rooney was the catalyst. In the first half he was very lively and seemed to make things happen and also had a hand in all of the goals.

It depends by which criteria you use, but he was at least as influential as anyone.

PS - I'm a toffee who despises Rooney and refuses to have him in his team.

PPS - Surprised I haven't heard many Man City fans complaining about Poll. His double standards yesterday were atrocious. Shouldn't be allowed to referee at the big grounds.

Post by **murf** » 11 Dec 2006, 08:52

scarletjim wrote:Nice surprise that Kuyt got it.

I thought Kuyt was excellent (would have got my vote just) but thought Gerrard would sneak it.

FYI the voting from the red jury.....

Carragher 897
Gerrard 847
Agger 631
Pennant 314
Alonso 182
Garcia 155
Kuyt 121
Finnan 100

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