Week 15 KCs and MotM Nov 25th 26th

Post by **murf** » 27 Nov 2006, 09:33

lono100 wrote:
murf wrote:Having said that GFM/TFF are tending to be more generous these days....
I'm hoping they are already full of Christmas spirit inspired generosity and there is a KC for Kuyt on the way then too!

If thats the case they will have been on the christmas spirit too much over the weekend and have truly lost the plot.

Post by **unhappyhoppy** » 27 Nov 2006, 09:40

It might be enough for me to lose my "UN" temporarily at least.

Post by **deegame** » 27 Nov 2006, 10:35

Man of the Matches:

Man United v Chelsea

Man of the match: Rio Ferdinand

Tottenham Hotspur v Wigan Athletic

Man of the match: Dimitar Berbatov

Newcastle United v Portsmouth

Man of the match: Kieron Dyer

Liverpool v Manchester City

Man of the match: Steven Gerrard

Bolton Wanderers v Arsenal

Man of the match: Nicolas Anelka

West Ham v Sheff Utd

Man of the match: Hayden Mullins

Charlton Athletic v Everton

Man of the match: Andy Reid

Aston Villa v Middlesbrough

Man of the match: George Boateng

Fulham v Reading

Man of the match: Kevin Doyle

Post by **bossman** » 27 Nov 2006, 10:37

PSA wrote:
johnjohn wrote:Can someone explain why Kuyt won't get a KC for Gerrard's goal. On MOTD it showed Kuyt sliding into a city player and the ball going straight to Gerrard who spanked one in.

Is it that gerrard did too much for Kuyt to get a KC? or something else?

I remember a goal Kewell scored against Everton last season, finnan knocked the ball a few yards to kewell who hit a fantastic shot into the corner, yet finann was given a KC (from memory).

I think it's because Gerrard did too much. I think he took 3, maybe even a 4th touch before hitting it from outside the area. I have Kuyt but am not expecting a KC.

Interestingly, Kuyt gets a KC on the OFL version (as does A-E).

Anyone know how good a guide (or not) this may be for TFF KC's ??

Post by **Raisin** » 27 Nov 2006, 10:42

bossman wrote:
PSA wrote:
johnjohn wrote:Can someone explain why Kuyt won't get a KC for Gerrard's goal. On MOTD it showed Kuyt sliding into a city player and the ball going straight to Gerrard who spanked one in.

Is it that gerrard did too much for Kuyt to get a KC? or something else?

I remember a goal Kewell scored against Everton last season, finnan knocked the ball a few yards to kewell who hit a fantastic shot into the corner, yet finann was given a KC (from memory).

I think it's because Gerrard did too much. I think he took 3, maybe even a 4th touch before hitting it from outside the area. I have Kuyt but am not expecting a KC.

Interestingly, Kuyt gets a KC on the OFL version (as does A-E).

Anyone know how good a guide (or not) this may be for TFF KC's ??

Don't know much about OFL but I believe the criteria are different. We should get confirmation of the TFF KCs today anyway from the online game.

Post by **caerphillyred** » 27 Nov 2006, 10:50

Anyone know when the KC's are confirmed on a monday?

Post by **unhappyhoppy** » 27 Nov 2006, 10:51

The tension is killing me. Every time I see a post I think, "Here we go"

Post by **murf** » 27 Nov 2006, 10:52

unhappyhoppy wrote:The tension is killing me. Every time I see a post I think, "Here we go"

Buy a TFFO team and you can go and find out

Post by **snowy** » 27 Nov 2006, 10:53

deegame wrote:Man of the Matches:

Man United v Chelsea

Man of the match: Rio Ferdinand

Tottenham Hotspur v Wigan Athletic

Man of the match: Dimitar Berbatov

Newcastle United v Portsmouth

etc etc etc]

thanks, but about 11 hours late

Post by **Miles Offside** » 27 Nov 2006, 11:31

How can Mullins get MOM in a game that was won by Mike Riley!!!!???

And Rio Ferdinand what did he do??

Post by **Judio** » 27 Nov 2006, 12:00

Bramernic wrote:This could be the day my predictions go pear shaped. Hopefully TFFO won't keep us waiting too long.

Still waiting

Post by **Jameselaprendi** » 27 Nov 2006, 12:01

Judio wrote:
Bramernic wrote:This could be the day my predictions go pear shaped. Hopefully TFFO won't keep us waiting too long.
Still waiting

Maybe they're still debating them?

Post by **Bramernic** » 27 Nov 2006, 12:24

Jameselaprendi wrote:
Judio wrote:
Bramernic wrote:This could be the day my predictions go pear shaped. Hopefully TFFO won't keep us waiting too long.
Still waiting
Maybe they're still debating them?

Yes, still waiting. This isn't doing me any favours re getting work done ... I keep switching back to the TFFO site to refresh the page. I'm not sure whether I like the thought that they're still debating them. Could give the conspiracy theorists a field day.

Post by **Jameselaprendi** » 27 Nov 2006, 12:28

If they are indeed highly contentious, or perhaps even undefinable under current wording of terms and conditions, maybe they're worried about setting new precidents.

Post by **x2zzzz** » 27 Nov 2006, 12:30

Jameselaprendi wrote:If they are indeed highly contentious, or perhaps even undefinable under current wording of terms and conditions, maybe they're worried about setting new precidents.

Or more than likely they just all phoned in sick after a hefty one in the pub yesterday.

or is that just me ?

Post by **unhappyhoppy** » 27 Nov 2006, 12:32

Set it Set it ! Just let it slip by this week, pleassssssssssssssse !

Post by **Jameselaprendi** » 27 Nov 2006, 12:34

Im certain x2zzzzzz theory is right. They'll prob turn up later and say "burger it, lets just give them all KCs"

Post by **BigJonS** » 27 Nov 2006, 13:16

ASSIST FOR ROONEY
NO FOR EKOTTO

Post by **Jameselaprendi** » 27 Nov 2006, 13:19

BigJonS wrote:ASSIST FOR ROONEY
NO FOR EKOTTO

After seeing both the goals for the first time this morning I can believe its come out that way. Did two different people make those decisions? Tell me that Rooney's score has been updated but Ekotto's hasnt yet

Post by **pottster** » 27 Nov 2006, 13:20

What about Kyut?

Post by **anon6** » 27 Nov 2006, 13:21

Jameselaprendi wrote:
BigJonS wrote:ASSIST FOR ROONEY
NO FOR EKOTTO
After seeing both the goals for the first time this morning I can believe its come out that way. Did two different people make those decisions? Tell me that Rooney's score has been updated but Ekotto's hasnt yet

How did either of them get one is beyond me.

Post by **yeboah** » 27 Nov 2006, 13:21

If Rooney gets one,Kuyt must do too....Saha had to do more work than Gerrard...

Post by **Bramernic** » 27 Nov 2006, 13:22

All Sundays as predicted, except Assou-Ekotto. I'll check Saturday's shortly, but to answer all the questions ... definitely no to Kuyt!

James: I believe it is a panel who scrutinise all the games from Sky/MotD footage, hence the consistency.

Post by **unhappyhoppy** » 27 Nov 2006, 13:24

I can't understand it either but it's Rooney, he is just too popular not to give it to him ! Now I have to wait til Wednesday I guess to find out.

Post by **Jameselaprendi** » 27 Nov 2006, 13:24

Listen to what Bramernic is saying. He gave them KCs based on the fact the pass takes defenders out, i.e. a defence splitting pass.

I believe they've counted the 'work' done (which can negate a KC) by players as number of touches because to me Ekotto's ball went through the defence more than Rooney's but Berbatov took more touches than Saha who technically only took 1 then shot.

Kuyt's pass did NOT break the defence in any way so could never have counted as a TFF KC in the first place.

Post by **Tricky Tree** » 27 Nov 2006, 13:25

I didn't expect one for Rooney, AK or Kuyt and that one of them did get one smacks of favouitism (as I suspected would happen per an earlier post)

Post by **unhappyhoppy** » 27 Nov 2006, 13:27

Re Rooney It would upset too many casual players. Thats my view.

Post by **Jameselaprendi** » 27 Nov 2006, 13:29

unhappyhoppy wrote:Re Rooney It would upset too many casual players. Thats my view.

Rubbish! He didnt get a KC just a few weeks ago when he deserved to, because of a technicality. (Having 'won' a penalty by decieving the defender he didnt get a KC because he hadnt actually touched the ball yet)

Post by **murf** » 27 Nov 2006, 13:31

Jameselaprendi wrote:
unhappyhoppy wrote:Re Rooney It would upset too many casual players. Thats my view.
Rubbish! He didnt get a KC just a few weeks ago when he deserved to, because of a technicality. (Having 'won' a penalty by decieving the defender he didnt get a KC because he hadnt actually touched the ball yet)

But that wasn't borderline. There is a clear definition of being in possession.

Reeks of favouritism to me.

Maybe Bram could help us by explaining what he thinks is their logic as Saha got the ball a few yards beyound the D.

Post by **Judio** » 27 Nov 2006, 13:36

I think that you also have to consider the shots on goal

Saha's was a pass round the keeper.

Most from outside the box are "screamers" like Gerrard

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Week 15 KCs and MotM Nov 25th 26th