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When do we expect to seesome MOTMs?
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Last year I could occasionally get them off the website during today (it's now Monday in Australia) but I would think they will hold off until they've sold a load of papers on Monday morning in England.

Hopefully someone will post them in about 6 hours!
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No chance of any KCs for Ronaldo Bram? I have him down for two! :lol:
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MOMs from the website...

Bowyer (West Ham)
Armstrong (Sheff Utd)
Doyle (Reading)
Campbell (Pompey)
Johnson (Everton)
Essien (Chelsea)
Rooney (Man Utd)
Mellberg (Villa)
Campo (Bolton)

For some reason there is a blank in the Newcastle game's MOM field. It seems from the report that it will go to Ameobi.
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Gedz wrote:Well, you must be blind then. Andy Johnson's would definately NOT have gone in without the deflection.

To be honest I think it should only be classed as an own goal if the player actually makes an attempt to play the ball. If it's a shot that a player can't avoid, it should just be classed as a deflection. So neither Andy Johnson's or Ferdinand's should have been own goals. Whereas Ian Pearce's today was an OG.
And that goal was worth 8 points!

Am I the first this season to complain about MOMs for goalscorers??? Hooray!
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tedbull2002 wrote:
Gedz wrote:Well, you must be blind then. Andy Johnson's would definately NOT have gone in without the deflection.

To be honest I think it should only be classed as an own goal if the player actually makes an attempt to play the ball. If it's a shot that a player can't avoid, it should just be classed as a deflection. So neither Andy Johnson's or Ferdinand's should have been own goals. Whereas Ian Pearce's today was an OG.
And that goal was worth 8 points!

Am I the first this season to complain about MOMs for goalscorers??? Hooray!
Tempted to say 'told you so' but I wont......at least it shows I'm not blind Gedz!!! :wink:
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motm's seem to be fairly unimportant this week dont think too many will have those players other than AJ and some with Rooney.
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crabby wrote:motm's seem to be fairly unimportant this week dont think too many will have those players other than AJ and some with Rooney.
roney off to a storming start though. It'll be interesting to see whether Henry can match his points tally by the time rooney gets back..
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crabby wrote:motm's seem to be fairly unimportant this week dont think too many will have those players other than AJ and some with Rooney.
...and me with Bowyer 8-)
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......at least it shows I'm not blind Gedz!!!
If you read the rest of my post - you'll see I agree that it was Andy Johnson's goal.

It was still off target.

Don't cancel that opticians appointment just yet! :wink:
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hardbody wrote:
crabby wrote:motm's seem to be fairly unimportant this week dont think too many will have those players other than AJ and some with Rooney.
...and me with Bowyer 8-)
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from the Telegraph

MOTM

Armstrong - Sheffield United
Mellberg - Aston Villa
Johnson - Everton
Ameobi - Newcastle
Campbell - Portsmouth
Doyle - Reading
Bowyer - West Ham
Campo - Bolton
Rooney - Manchester United
Essien - Chelsea
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The only one I had was Essien...

Unfortunately that was cancelled out by Rio Ferdinand - that one was counted as an OG right??

Seems to be 2 opinions here!
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dilwar wrote:The only one I had was Essien...

Unfortunately that was cancelled out by Rio Ferdinand - that one was counted as an OG right??

Seems to be 2 opinions here!
That was never an own goal!
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Post by Parry St Germain »

I think I've missed the boat on the Ferdinand og debate. I didn't think it was, thought the goal Johnson was given was more of an og.

But you might now be able to guess who I have and haven't got in my team!
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Arsenal 1-1 Aston Villa
Mellberg (Davis)
Silva (van Persie, poss Walcott) Not sure how much of a deflection the defender got before it hit RvP's head

From what i see under player points in TFFO, 1 pt for btoh Van Persie and walcott, thus no assist

Newcastle 2-1 Wigan
Parker (Ameobi)
McCulloch (poss Heskey) McCulloch may have done too much
Ameobi (N'Zogbia)

Also 3pts for heskey , so must be assist, presuming he was booked



Also Rio -1 so credited with OG
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brogie wrote:Arsenal 1-1 Aston Villa
Mellberg (Davis)
Silva (van Persie, poss Walcott) Not sure how much of a deflection the defender got before it hit RvP's head

From what i see under player points in TFFO, 1 pt for btoh Van Persie and walcott, thus no assist

Newcastle 2-1 Wigan
Parker (Ameobi)
McCulloch (poss Heskey) McCulloch may have done too much
Ameobi (N'Zogbia)

Also 3pts for heskey , so must be assist, presuming he was booked



Also Rio -1 so credited with OG
Can you confirm if Gary Neville has been given a KC?
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Gary Neville 4pts therefore assist

Havent checked them all, but any checked so far are consistent with Bramernic's opinions
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brogie wrote:Gary Neville 4pts therefore assist

Havent checked them all, but any checked so far are consistent with Bramernic's opinions
can you possibly confirm how many points ronaldo got?
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snowy wrote:
brogie wrote:Gary Neville 4pts therefore assist

Havent checked them all, but any checked so far are consistent with Bramernic's opinions
can you possibly confirm how many points ronaldo got?
Ronaldo got 7 so no assist for last goal
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How many points did saha get.
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snowy wrote:
brogie wrote:Gary Neville 4pts therefore assist

Havent checked them all, but any checked so far are consistent with Bramernic's opinions
can you possibly confirm how many points ronaldo got?
7, so just the goal and appearance.
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tonydolphin wrote:How many points did saha get.
13pts for Saha
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browny wrote:
tonydolphin wrote:How many points did saha get.
13pts for Saha
I made it 12?

2 appearance
5 goal
3 assist
3 assist
-1 subbed
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kelser72 wrote:-1 subbed
Not this season. It's 2 for being in the starting XI and 1 if you come on as a sub. You don't lose if you go off, even if it's only after 5 minutes.
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Bramernic wrote:They've given double KCs on 'keeper parries before, so I'd say they should both get one. Neville's cross was pinpoint accurate.
Thanks and now confirmed. For future reference, would you say that the initial shot (Saha) would need to be first or second touch for the crosser (Neville) to get a KC?
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greenman wrote:
Bramernic wrote:They've given double KCs on 'keeper parries before, so I'd say they should both get one. Neville's cross was pinpoint accurate.
Thanks and now confirmed. For future reference, would you say that the initial shot (Saha) would need to be first or second touch for the crosser (Neville) to get a KC?
Almost certainly first touch.
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Bramernic wrote:
kelser72 wrote:-1 subbed
Not this season. It's 2 for being in the starting XI and 1 if you come on as a sub. You don't lose if you go off, even if it's only after 5 minutes.
Thanks

An extra point!

Let the bragging commence......
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Have TFFO got a page for this season where we can check the official KCS ??
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brogie wrote:Also Rio -1 so credited with OG
Shouldn't it be -2 in TFF.
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