Lucky 7's - Season 17
- forestfan
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There are occasions where "matchdays" overlap aren't there, due to early sets when there is a shortage of fixtures etc. I'd suggest that any match rescheduled for within 48 hours of the original kick-off time should count, and anything else classes as a postponement and scores as a 0-0 draw.Lucky7s wrote:Sorry for not getting here earlier. In this case (Serb v Kaz), I was prepared to let the result stand if the game was played today, but as it has now been rescheduled for next weekend the game has now been deemed a draw for our scoring purposes.
It has never happened before, but if a game gets postponed but rescheduled to play again before the next Matchday changeover then I would happily accept the proper result of the game.
Normally, postponed games cannot be played again until after the next Matchday changeover, so then it would be scored as a 1 point draw.
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I agree with L7s' judgement - I think for weekend games anything up to and including a Monday night reschedulement is ok, and for midweek games anything up to Friday.
Remember if there is a 48 hour rule, if you have Friday matches (such as last midweek's U21 set) getting postponed to Sat/Sun, that may cause problems.
Remember if there is a 48 hour rule, if you have Friday matches (such as last midweek's U21 set) getting postponed to Sat/Sun, that may cause problems.
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This is correct and I agree with those deadlines ie Mon & Fri. It would over complicate issues if I had to hang on to a set after matchday changeover hoping for the game(s) to be replayed, so if the rules need clarification as reds has suggested:reds363 wrote:I agree with L7s' judgement - I think for weekend games anything up to and including a Monday night reschedulement is ok, and for midweek games anything up to Friday.
Remember if there is a 48 hour rule, if you have Friday matches (such as last midweek's U21 set) getting postponed to Sat/Sun, that may cause problems.
weekend games have until Monday evening and midweek games until Friday evening.
Edit: The following paragraph has been added to the Lucky 7's rules page to clarify any future situations:
Lucky 7's Postponed matches ruleIf a weekend game is postponed but is then rescheduled to be played no later than Monday evening the proper score will count and if a midweek game is postponed but is then rescheduled to be played no later than Friday evening then the proper score will count, otherwise the result will be deemed a 0-0 draw for Lucky 7's scoring purposes.
Edit 2: Also to forestfan, the situation you've refered to isn't really overlapping as such, that's where selections are submitted for an early bonus set which isn't normally updated until after the matchday changeover, the system can handle that without any issues.
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I think everyone's getting better at playing, last (L7s) season had a high average score rate and this season seems to be going the same way. We've had 9 matchdays so far and the top 10 in the prem league are all on at least 17pts per set (top 36 teams overall 17pts +) and the midweek Internationals may well help to keep the rate up.
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I had thought the increased average scores in the last couple of seasons were just a blip, but it seems to have been sustained for quite a while now. 15 APPM is pretty crap these days it seems!
I think apart from people getting better at it, which they probably will tend to after playing a few seasons and learning good and bad selection tactics, it's also down to the way this season's shaped up. There's a lot more "banker" picks in the Premiership and Champions League group stage than there once were, as the gaps between teams seem to be widening.
I think apart from people getting better at it, which they probably will tend to after playing a few seasons and learning good and bad selection tactics, it's also down to the way this season's shaped up. There's a lot more "banker" picks in the Premiership and Champions League group stage than there once were, as the gaps between teams seem to be widening.
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When picking from Premier League sets I think most of us start off by selecting the 'big 4' (when they aren't playing each other), then it's a case of looking for the next best home bankers available ie Spurs/ManCity/Everton/Blackburn home against Wigan/Sunderland/Derby/Birmingham type games, then you're usually left with one or 2 risky away picks and that should get you at least 15-16 points most weeks. It throws it wide open if either of the 'big 4' are playing each other or are not included.
I think you (forestfan) mentioned this before but the first half of the season (Aug - Dec) should in theory be a bit easier due to the Champs League group stage, as the knockout games around February onwards are often much harder to pick from. The early FA Cup rounds are also often a good time to score well.
I think you (forestfan) mentioned this before but the first half of the season (Aug - Dec) should in theory be a bit easier due to the Champs League group stage, as the knockout games around February onwards are often much harder to pick from. The early FA Cup rounds are also often a good time to score well.
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The big 4 have nearly always been bankers as long as I've been playing the game - but I think there's a bigger gap between the "middle" group of teams and the "bottom" group of teams this season. In other words, there are a few teams who are bankers to lose, even if they're playing say an Everton, Blackburn or Man City as opposed to one of the big four.Lucky7s wrote:When picking from Premier League sets I think most of us start off by selecting the 'big 4' (when they aren't playing each other), then it's a case of looking for the next best home bankers available ie Spurs/ManCity/Everton/Blackburn home against Wigan/Sunderland/Derby/Birmingham type games, then you're usually left with one or 2 risky away picks and that should get you at least 15-16 points most weeks. It throws it wide open if either of the 'big 4' are playing each other or are not included.
Midweek sets probably will get tougher though as the Champions League progresses. No more international qualifiers either in the second half of this season. Let's see if the average scores revert to past levels in the next couple of L7's seasons!
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Yep. This is pretty much the way I play it. If the 4 bankers aren't there then I largely stay away and look ahead to what the fixture list might offer in a few weeks time. Rarely am I tempted to go for a lower league set.Lucky7s wrote:When picking from Premier League sets I think most of us start off by selecting the 'big 4' (when they aren't playing each other), then it's a case of looking for the next best home bankers available ie Spurs/ManCity/Everton/Blackburn home against Wigan/Sunderland/Derby/Birmingham type games, then you're usually left with one or 2 risky away picks and that should get you at least 15-16 points most weeks. It throws it wide open if either of the 'big 4' are playing each other or are not included.
To make it more interesting Ian, perhaps mixing and matching the lower divisions to provide easier matches might increase the temptation towards the other sets ? Example :
Set 2 - Easyish looking matches from England Champs, L1 and L2
Set 3 - Easyish looking matches from the four scottish leagues.
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Ok here's a reminder to the FISO league teams that haven't picked for this midweeks Matchday 10, the last Internationals for a while!
Deadline is 7pm on Tuesday evening
FISO league teams not picked yet:
Athletico BM
Blackness Trotters
Mark1886
Primitives
Smoke City
Surreal Mildred
United on Top
Deadline is 7pm on Tuesday evening
FISO league teams not picked yet:
Athletico BM
Blackness Trotters
Mark1886
Primitives
Smoke City
Surreal Mildred
United on Top
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I like the look of that idea, I agree it would be nice to tempt a few more pickers from the lower sets at weekends.Shrews wrote:To make it more interesting Ian, perhaps mixing and matching the lower divisions to provide easier matches might increase the temptation towards the other sets ? Example :
Set 2 - Easyish looking matches from England Champs, L1 and L2
Set 3 - Easyish looking matches from the four scottish leagues.
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Yes I think lower league sets have become a complete no-go area for the experienced player, unless there's really no other option. Championship has to be the worst, it's so evenly matched, at least in League One you've got Leeds and Forest as bankers!
I'd also suggest maybe one "playable" lower league set and one Scottish or perhaps Italian/Spanish set. But I think there still need to be some matchdays with very difficult sets to encourage the beginner's mistake, or penalise the player who has too many sets to catch up!
I'd also suggest maybe one "playable" lower league set and one Scottish or perhaps Italian/Spanish set. But I think there still need to be some matchdays with very difficult sets to encourage the beginner's mistake, or penalise the player who has too many sets to catch up!
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Not sure if I like the idea of splitting up the Premiership set really, that would be quite a big change and would reduce the scores dramatically.Shrews wrote:Think this is a good idea also but perhaps with the two bankers in Set 1 and the other two in set 2.nash0819 wrote:You could just randomnly splice the Prem & Championship fixtures between the first two sets on a normal Saturday?
Don't think there's any need to try and make all the sets equal difficulty, but then again there's little point having sets that only a handful of people pick from, so I'd support something that just evens it up a bit and creates more weeks when the Prem set may not necessarily be the best choice.
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I like having the Prem games all together as I know little about the other leagues and would have to pick methodically using league tables which is dull.
Would change the dynamic of the game too much - but I do like the odd sneaky one in there (to replace a 'missing' monday game). Maybe the Prems could only have 8 or 9 to choose from or the other sets could have over 10 games to make them easier?
But it isn't really broken is it so why fix it?
Would change the dynamic of the game too much - but I do like the odd sneaky one in there (to replace a 'missing' monday game). Maybe the Prems could only have 8 or 9 to choose from or the other sets could have over 10 games to make them easier?
But it isn't really broken is it so why fix it?
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This weekends Matchday 11 will also determine scores for the 5th round of the FA Cup competition along with a couple of FISO Cup games (check the FISO Cup thread for full details).
Here's a list of FISO league teams yet to enter for this weekend:
A&B Dynamite
BadaBing Lucky7s
Blackness Trotters
Jack and Misty Cat
Karrde Vale
Lips Ink
REDSquadron
Semper Fidelis
Surreal Mildred
The Kop Kings
Tri-Stars
Here's a list of FISO league teams yet to enter for this weekend:
A&B Dynamite
BadaBing Lucky7s
Blackness Trotters
Jack and Misty Cat
Karrde Vale
Lips Ink
REDSquadron
Semper Fidelis
Surreal Mildred
The Kop Kings
Tri-Stars
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Just under an hour left.Lucky7s wrote:This weekends Matchday 11 will also determine scores for the 5th round of the FA Cup competition along with a couple of FISO Cup games (check the FISO Cup thread for full details).
Here's a list of FISO league teams yet to enter for this weekend:
A&B Dynamite FA Cup
BadaBing Lucky7s FA Cup
Blackness Trotters
Jack and Misty Cat
Karrde Vale
Semper Fidelis
Surreal Mildred
The Kop Kings
Tri-Stars
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