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With 3rd round matches almost complete, the question is...was it worth it?

I gained massively over my super-league rivals and climbed the overall leaderboard.
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15%
My gains were sufficient for transfers used and some ground was made.
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65%
I used at least 1 transfer and wished I hadn't bothered.
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12%
I used several transfers and sincerely wished I hadn't bothered.
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I refrained from using transfers and maintained position...mostly down to luck.
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8%
I refrained from using transfers and maintained position...mostly down to being a genius.
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FA CUP TRANSFER USEAGE

Post by edmo33 » 07 Jan 2019, 18:53

:D :D

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Re: FA CUP TRANSFER USEAGE

Post by hayesag » 07 Jan 2019, 19:09

WHAT!!!

Liverpool to get knocked the foook out in 90 mins and RAUL to bag a brace and show Lovren up for the garbage that he really is

BIG MONEY
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Re: FA CUP TRANSFER USEAGE

Post by wandacatvenus » 07 Jan 2019, 19:10

I need an option for “Refrained from using transfers and moved upwards”

Don’t get too excited. A usual top 1k player down at 11k this season.

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Re: FA CUP TRANSFER USEAGE

Post by edmo33 » 07 Jan 2019, 19:11

wandacatvenus wrote:
07 Jan 2019, 19:10
I need an option for “Refrained from using transfers and moved upwards”

Don’t get too excited. A usual top 1k player down at 11k this season.

You defo belong in the genius category then 8-)

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Re: FA CUP TRANSFER USEAGE

Post by murf » 07 Jan 2019, 19:43

Daisy chain has been rubbish, got some points (7-5-7) but am left with Jesus who plays after my sold Kane as there were no sensible LEicester or Liverpool options. I did buy Firmino tonight in one chaining team in case of a sub appearance/weekend pointsfest.

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Re: FA CUP TRANSFER USEAGE

Post by Spinynorman » 07 Jan 2019, 21:32

Where's the option for: I didn't use any transfers and dropped like a stone?

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Re: FA CUP TRANSFER USEAGE

Post by Striker » 07 Jan 2019, 23:21

75% of respondents (so far) have said that they used transfers and that their gains were good and acceptable. This I find difficult to believe. The average value of a transfer this season for a decent TFF has been around 17 pts on my estimates. Given the level of scoring during this round of the Cup I find it difficult to believe that those who made Cup transfers have achieved an average close to this. One might argue that they haven't yet got the full value from their transfers. But on the other hand some of the players brought in for the Cup will soon have to be moved on using another transfer. So either some managers are deluded as to what represents value for Cup transfers or a totally unrepresentative sample of managers have responded to this survey.

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Re: FA CUP TRANSFER USEAGE

Post by muldoon » 08 Jan 2019, 14:26

I did not make any transfers this weekend, but my Kane to Arnie transfer last week could be classd as such as was supposed to be a 3-0 over Harry as I thought he would be rested in the Cup. Alas he came on when 6-0 up of course and bagged a goal. I was annoyed Arnie was subbed so early in his 2nd game, but apparently he may not be injured so I hope to still get another game out of him before transferring back to Harry. Still looks OK so far, Arnie has 3 goals to Harry's 1, and Arsenal's defence has been woeful recently so fingers crossed Arnie can nick at least another one and go out with a bang.

I always think the 3rd round is massive trap, even the mid table teams reckon their 2nd teams can still comfortably get thro to the next round, so there's just too many benchings. We have a lot more all prem match ups in the 4th round, so I expect stronger teams and better scoring then.

I still think we will get some winter weather chaos too this year, which will throw even more of a spanner in the works and see more potential 3 and 4-1's, so I'm still embracing the tortoise for now (will have 25 left after putting Harry back in this weekend).

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Post by The Bear » 08 Jan 2019, 15:20

What position are you Muldoon out of interest ?

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Re: FA CUP TRANSFER USEAGE

Post by Striker » 08 Jan 2019, 16:04

The Bear wrote:
08 Jan 2019, 15:20
What position are you Muldoon out of interest ?
Given that he probably has 4/5 transfers in hand over the bulk of the leaderboard, and that those transfers are probably worth around 60-75 pts, any position on the leaderboard would be an extremely healthy one. So I'm guessing that you are hoping that he's not in the top 150 or so. :wink: :lol: :wink:
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Re: FA CUP TRANSFER USEAGE

Post by Mins » 08 Jan 2019, 16:08

Once Sterling was announced in the starting line up against Rotherham, I just had to bring him in. I would say this falls into the remit of a season long move and therefore worthy of "My gains were sufficient for transfers used and some ground was made" because without him I would be 9 pts and 2 places off where I currently am in my super league.

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Re: FA CUP TRANSFER USEAGE

Post by Striker » 08 Jan 2019, 16:18

Certainly a vey worthwhile transfer which satisfied the "My gain were sufficient ............... " criterion, but it's arguable that it doesn't really fall into the "Cup Usage" category as the fact that it was a Cup match was only a peripheral reason for bringing Sterling into your team. The thread is surely aimed at those opportunistic point grabs that the early rounds of the Cup USED to be full of many seasons ago.

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Re: FA CUP TRANSFER USEAGE

Post by muldoon » 08 Jan 2019, 17:09

Striker wrote:
08 Jan 2019, 16:04
The Bear wrote:
08 Jan 2019, 15:20
What position are you Muldoon out of interest ?
Given that he probably has 4/5 transfers in hand over the bulk of the leaderboard, and that those transfers are probably worth around 60-75 pts, any position on the leaderboard would be an extremely healthy one. So I'm guessing that you are hoping that he's not in the top 150 or so. :wink: :lol: :wink:
:lol: I am absolutely not on the leader board or even close, not that I've even looked to be honest. I'm currently leading my super league and that's all that matters to me.

I'm a single entrant so always try and use those transfers with care, and am currently in 4352nd place.

EDIT: just checked and I'm currently still 114 points behind the person at the bottom of the leader board, so @the bear looks safe from me at least :D

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Re: FA CUP TRANSFER USEAGE

Post by Yorkshire Exile » 08 Jan 2019, 17:39

Striker wrote:
08 Jan 2019, 16:04
The Bear wrote:
08 Jan 2019, 15:20
What position are you Muldoon out of interest ?
Given that he probably has 4/5 transfers in hand over the bulk of the leaderboard, and that those transfers are probably worth around 60-75 pts, any position on the leaderboard would be an extremely healthy one. So I'm guessing that you are hoping that he's not in the top 150 or so. :wink: :lol: :wink:
if 4/5 transfers are worth 75 points..... you need to be afraid :wink: I'm actually 2nd.....

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Post by Vid » 08 Jan 2019, 18:05

Yorkshire Exile wrote:
08 Jan 2019, 17:39
Striker wrote:
08 Jan 2019, 16:04
The Bear wrote:
08 Jan 2019, 15:20
What position are you Muldoon out of interest ?
Given that he probably has 4/5 transfers in hand over the bulk of the leaderboard, and that those transfers are probably worth around 60-75 pts, any position on the leaderboard would be an extremely healthy one. So I'm guessing that you are hoping that he's not in the top 150 or so. :wink: :lol: :wink:
if 4/5 transfers are worth 75 points..... you need to be afraid :wink: I'm actually 2nd.....
I think that's supposed to be 4/5 above the average, not just 4 or 5 left :-)

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Re: FA CUP TRANSFER USEAGE

Post by edmo33 » 08 Jan 2019, 18:13

I wonder what the average transfers remaining of the top 100 is?

Hard to gauge your position without this information.

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Post by Yorkshire Exile » 08 Jan 2019, 18:19

Loads with plenty this year... Be a few with 25 left

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Re: FA CUP TRANSFER USEAGE

Post by Jamjack » 08 Jan 2019, 19:31

Striker wrote:
08 Jan 2019, 16:18
Certainly a vey worthwhile transfer which satisfied the "My gain were sufficient ............... " criterion, but it's arguable that it doesn't really fall into the "Cup Usage" category as the fact that it was a Cup match was only a peripheral reason for bringing Sterling into your team. The thread is surely aimed at those opportunistic point grabs that the early rounds of the Cup USED to be full of many seasons ago.
Well, this would certainly apply to me. Arnie and Sterling were changed in most teams and the extra games around the cup match were a big factor although I wouldn’t have taken advantage of the extra games had one of them not been an attractive looking cup opportunity. Now I’ve confused the assessment of the original question even further!

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Re: FA CUP TRANSFER USEAGE

Post by edmo33 » 08 Jan 2019, 19:55

Jamjack wrote:
08 Jan 2019, 19:31
Striker wrote:
08 Jan 2019, 16:18
Certainly a vey worthwhile transfer which satisfied the "My gain were sufficient ............... " criterion, but it's arguable that it doesn't really fall into the "Cup Usage" category as the fact that it was a Cup match was only a peripheral reason for bringing Sterling into your team. The thread is surely aimed at those opportunistic point grabs that the early rounds of the Cup USED to be full of many seasons ago.
Well, this would certainly apply to me. Arnie and Sterling were changed in most teams and the extra games around the cup match were a big factor although I wouldn’t have taken advantage of the extra games had one of them not been an attractive looking cup opportunity. Now I’ve confused the assessment of the original question even further!

My original question and possible 'poll' answers are not (in hindsight) either mutually exclusive or exhaustive...
but it did lead to some debate as to the value of the cup and the transfer opportunities that arose.

Job done...I think. :wink:

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Post by Mins » 08 Jan 2019, 21:43

Job done indeed. Round 4 will no doubt have some good options too looking at the draw.

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Post by Darbyand » 08 Jan 2019, 22:55

Striker wrote:
07 Jan 2019, 23:21
75% of respondents (so far) have said that they used transfers and that their gains were good and acceptable. This I find difficult to believe. The average value of a transfer this season for a decent TFF has been around 17 pts on my estimates.
What's that based on? Starting xi vs current scores?

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Post by Striker » 08 Jan 2019, 23:50

Yorkshire Exile wrote:
08 Jan 2019, 17:39
Striker wrote:
08 Jan 2019, 16:04
The Bear wrote:
08 Jan 2019, 15:20
What position are you Muldoon out of interest ?
Given that he probably has 4/5 transfers in hand over the bulk of the leaderboard, and that those transfers are probably worth around 60-75 pts, any position on the leaderboard would be an extremely healthy one. So I'm guessing that you are hoping that he's not in the top 150 or so. :wink: :lol: :wink:
if 4/5 transfers are worth 75 points..... you need to be afraid :wink: I'm actually 2nd.....
But how many transfers do the rest of us have? I'm not scared of your leading team, :wink: although I guess you may have some coming up from behind which are scarier. :(

As regards the question about the typical transfers of leader board teams, my guess is around 20-21 with a few having far fewer and a few having considerably more.

As regards Derbyand's question - Yup that was the method of calculation.

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Re: FA CUP TRANSFER USEAGE

Post by Jezza3 » 09 Jan 2019, 07:39

Think it’s quite difficult to be sure what value a transfer should be. E.g in the championship game I have a team that started with Patrick Bamford (god knows why) which as he has virtually not played at all is showing in excess of 20 pts gained per transfer using the starting 11 v current team method. A team in the premier league game is a similar distance behind the leaders and is averaging 9

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Post by Darbyand » 09 Jan 2019, 07:50

Agreed. There's mistake correcting transfers (Jota) and keeping 11 on the pitch transfers (Mendy was in all my starting 11s) which are likely to show big gains. But with 40 to play with, there's room for a few lower gain but ultimately score boosting tinkers. I aim for 10 per transfer with those.

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Re: FA CUP TRANSFER USEAGE

Post by edmo33 » 09 Jan 2019, 07:59

Striker wrote:
08 Jan 2019, 23:50
Yorkshire Exile wrote:
08 Jan 2019, 17:39
Striker wrote:
08 Jan 2019, 16:04
The Bear wrote:
08 Jan 2019, 15:20
What position are you Muldoon out of interest ?
Given that he probably has 4/5 transfers in hand over the bulk of the leaderboard, and that those transfers are probably worth around 60-75 pts, any position on the leaderboard would be an extremely healthy one. So I'm guessing that you are hoping that he's not in the top 150 or so. :wink: :lol: :wink:
if 4/5 transfers are worth 75 points..... you need to be afraid :wink: I'm actually 2nd.....
But how many transfers do the rest of us have? I'm not scared of your leading team, :wink: although I guess you may have some coming up from behind which are scarier. :(

As regards the question about the typical transfers of leader board teams, my guess is around 20-21 with a few having far fewer and a few having considerably more.

As regards Derbyand's question - Yup that was the method of calculation.

There are hare teams still on the leaderboard, with under ten transfers. But the 'chasing' teams from these same players will definitely be more of a threat.

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Re: FA CUP TRANSFER USEAGE

Post by Always Next Year » 09 Jan 2019, 08:11

Jezza3 wrote:
09 Jan 2019, 07:39
Think it’s quite difficult to be sure what value a transfer should be. E.g in the championship game I have a team that started with Patrick Bamford (god knows why) which as he has virtually not played at all is showing in excess of 20 pts gained per transfer using the starting 11 v current team method. A team in the premier league game is a similar distance behind the leaders and is averaging 9
I think a good way to analyse this is to compare the points gained from transfers in relation to your starting XI overall leader board rank.

For example if you are in the top 500 starting XI and you have gained 10 points per transfers (overall score - starting Xi score / number of transfers) then i would assume you are in a good position.

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Re: FA CUP TRANSFER USEAGE

Post by ronny10 » 09 Jan 2019, 14:51

Striker wrote:
08 Jan 2019, 16:04
The Bear wrote:
08 Jan 2019, 15:20
What position are you Muldoon out of interest ?
Given that he probably has 4/5 transfers in hand over the bulk of the leaderboard, and that those transfers are probably worth around 60-75 pts, any position on the leaderboard would be an extremely healthy one. So I'm guessing that you are hoping that he's not in the top 150 or so. :wink: :lol: :wink:
I like this given I have a team in this scenario, not my one that's in the top 50 as that has used a few more transfers but I'm hopeful 1 of them can finish well.

One other also 20pts further back than my 2nd best with a healthy amount of transfers but prefer the set up of the other 2 teams!!

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Re: FA CUP TRANSFER USEAGE

Post by murf » 09 Jan 2019, 21:18

So Jesus decides to score 4 goals TONIGHT....

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Re: FA CUP TRANSFER USEAGE

Post by Spinynorman » 09 Jan 2019, 21:27

murf wrote:
09 Jan 2019, 21:18
So Jesus decides to score 4 goals TONIGHT....


I nearly asked on the chit chat thread if anybody had brought him in. :oops:

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Post by murf » 09 Jan 2019, 22:14

Spinynorman wrote:
murf wrote:
09 Jan 2019, 21:18
So Jesus decides to score 4 goals TONIGHT....


I nearly asked on the chit chat thread if anybody had brought him in. :oops:
Think he got at least 1 KC too. A 25-30 point haul the other day would have made this a very different thread. That's why it was an acknowledged gamble. I'll pass next year and he'll score 5.

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