great to see you looking at figures now and taking a wider view, the aubamayang figures are unlikely to be maintained, the scores were from a limited sample and all end of season where some teams scoring tends to increase. you will also note aguero played less games than usual, you might want to look at the top defenders and top strikers in the previous year or two aswell, say 3 years of scores for each of the premium strikers (if playing that long) and same with premium defenders. you will also note that firmino is actually behind alonso (despite being much more expensive) and that one of the most popular regular players in lukaku is only just ahead of him and even the defensively minded and positioned rudiger in a chelsea defence that didnt even reach a champions league place is hardly slaughtered by them either. there will be opportunities to transfer top strikers and i will certainly be looking to cash in on them as and when i can, what i am saying is that the multiplication of a good defensive run will outweigh striker transfers, so say you switch your defence with 5 players three times and do well out of it you may find 25 transfers for everything else (injuries/bargains in/premium striker rotations) is sufficient and that trying to burn another 15 on striker rotations simply doesn't hit the target enough to ward off say 3x defensive switches. obviously you are not comparing the very best striker rotation options with defensive rotations and you might only rotate the whole defence once or twice but i don't think a team with no defensive rotations is likely to win this year, whilst conceding that they just could if no strong defensive runs happen.Darkish wrote: ↑15 Jul 2018, 22:38I understand and agree about short-term comps and I don't mind awarding defence anyway.12345678 wrote: ↑15 Jul 2018, 20:10
lets make myself extremely clear once an for all why i am posting this and what my thoughts are.
i believe defensive rotation is boring and the ONLY way to realistically win tff world cup/european cup games and almost certain to figure in tff champions league. re epl if transfers increase then for the reasons outlined above they are best used on defensive rotation. note i am not saying you can't win tff epl without defensive rotation but i am saying it is considerably more likely to be a factor in future as the rules stand. (not even saying it couldn't happen in the past -andy edwards did it once on a key block rotation that reaped huge rewards)
re your figures you would be right if the average premium striker scored double the average defender, however look at the figures quoted above in the thread and tell me how likely that is to happen! you are correct re the relationship you outline but this needs to be calculated to show the real effect not just a figure of x2 put in the air which is not representative of the state of play.
because most want to play goalscorers the average player will do less well and take up less of the top 100 leaderboard as they will stick to the tried and tested old formula, that no longer works. if the game is boring and becomes more of a regular tff top 100 players game they will lose entries. i'm not certain what will happen in that respect as it will vary from year to year on the odd freak score/freak pricing. what i am saying is that in an average year that is where we are heading.
it's all very well and good adding transfers for webpage hits etc but if players withdraw/reduce entries it is not without a real cost, the ultimate being the games disappearance which i believe they are hinting at in the last survey.
so basically i am not moaning but saying the game is becoming more and more about defence rather than offence. i believe most players will a) find it boring and b) do less well because they fail to appreciate it. in turn i think that will lead to falling entries which may herald the end of the game. if you disagree with my take on the figures and implications of them that is fine but don't tell me i am moaning and pushing forward my own preferences when i am outlining where i believe we are now and where we are going. examples of double scores for premium strikers over premium defenders are simply unrealistic https://fantasysports.org.uk/tff2017-2018
This is about the upcoming EPL. I accept defenders are better value when setting up your team. However, when making a transfer you should be getting an extra game for that player. The points per game for the top strikers last year was
Aubameyang, P 7.00
Aguero, S 6.75
Kane, H 6.15
Lukaku, R 5.43
Firmino, R 5.00
Alonso only scores 5.11 per match, the next best Chelsea defender is Rudiger at 4.7.
You are better of using transfers between top strikers than block defence, as the season is long enough to use the transfers wisely. Maybe you'll enjoy the season more now and do slightly better (I know you are a good player and better than me) by doing attacking transfers rather than be stuck in your negative mindset.
every year will vary of course but i still maintain the game is now more about clean sheets than goals!