World Cup in Qatar
- murf
- FISO Viscount
- Posts: 109604
- Joined: 13 Oct 2005, 18:28
- Location: here
- FS Record: Once led TFF. Very briefly.
- FPL:
- Contact:
-
- Treebeard
- Posts: 211
- Joined: 13 Sep 2011, 20:42
Re: World Cup in Qatar
Thanks for the links. Blatter is an arrogant ass whose time has come to step down. He knew damn well that Qatar hosting the WC in the summer was not feasible! Now he wants to move it to the winter? FIFA is a mess and needs fresh, young thinkers. The problem is Blatter (and others) have lined their pockets with cash and don't give a damn about the sanctity of the game.
- blahblah
- FISO Viscount
- Posts: 108827
- Joined: 13 Oct 2005, 18:46
- Location: .. he thinks that he knows something which he doesn't, whereas I am quite concious of my ignorance.
- FPL:
Re: World Cup in Qatar
You seem to be underestimating him. There have been plans to have a winter break to allow the ANC etc to not interfere with European Leagues and as part of a move to a global season. This merely forces the issue by making Leagues have the break for Qatar and for it to stay in place.
Roll on the World Super League and mega bucks for the privileged few...
Roll on the World Super League and mega bucks for the privileged few...
-
- Dumbledore
- Posts: 8707
- Joined: 13 Oct 2005, 18:50
Re: World Cup in Qatar
I've not read the articles thoroughly but wouldve thought that the votes that Qatar won during the ballet were for its proposal of a World Cup in June/July, meaning should a proposal be made to move it to the winter months then voting should be carried out again to reflect this.
- DrBunker
- FISO Knight
- Posts: 19050
- Joined: 02 Jan 2007, 11:13
- Location: Proud to be owned by DMWSL613 Limited
- FS Record: FISODAS season 21 Premiership champion
- FPL:
Re: World Cup in Qatar
Yep. I find myself overwhelmingly irate about this. I never understand why, when I hear Blatter talk so nonchalantly about the fact it has to be moved, there isn't more open criticism.gazwood wrote:I've not read the articles thoroughly but wouldve thought that the votes that Qatar won during the ballet were for its proposal of a World Cup in June/July, meaning should a proposal be made to move it to the winter months then voting should be carried out again to reflect this.
-
- FISO Knight
- Posts: 11937
- Joined: 13 Oct 2005, 18:28
Re: World Cup in Qatar
Think for the moment UEFA are keeping quiet about it, slowly a few of the big hitters (Bayern, Real, United etc) are moving there people into UEFA, cant make up me mind if its a good thing or not.DrBunker wrote:Yep. I find myself overwhelmingly irate about this. I never understand why, when I hear Blatter talk so nonchalantly about the fact it has to be moved, there isn't more open criticism.gazwood wrote:I've not read the articles thoroughly but wouldve thought that the votes that Qatar won during the ballet were for its proposal of a World Cup in June/July, meaning should a proposal be made to move it to the winter months then voting should be carried out again to reflect this.
Expect them to wait till decision is made by FIFA, will depend very much what part of winter it is, most European leagues have a break, that may be accepted, but if its in season and Germany Spain England say no then it will get interesting.
- blahblah
- FISO Viscount
- Posts: 108827
- Joined: 13 Oct 2005, 18:46
- Location: .. he thinks that he knows something which he doesn't, whereas I am quite concious of my ignorance.
- FPL:
Re: World Cup in Qatar
Germany already has a break?
-
- FISO Knight
- Posts: 11937
- Joined: 13 Oct 2005, 18:28
Re: World Cup in Qatar
As do most European leagues, if its proposed in that segment it might just be accepted interesting though is if its proposed out side of that, it then not only interferes with league games, but Champ league and thats UEFA's golden egg as well as poss effecting games relating to European championship participation.blahblah wrote:Germany already has a break?
- blahblah
- FISO Viscount
- Posts: 108827
- Joined: 13 Oct 2005, 18:46
- Location: .. he thinks that he knows something which he doesn't, whereas I am quite concious of my ignorance.
- FPL:
Re: World Cup in Qatar
It won't be, imho.
A nice break in winter for Qatar, and South American countries, and a summer one of Europe etc. (Meaning July and January will be clear for International Tournies.) Football or soccer is going global, and Europe isn't that relevant any more.
Has anyone wondered what has happened in Brazil and Argentinia when WC's happen? Or is football a summer sport there?
A nice break in winter for Qatar, and South American countries, and a summer one of Europe etc. (Meaning July and January will be clear for International Tournies.) Football or soccer is going global, and Europe isn't that relevant any more.
Has anyone wondered what has happened in Brazil and Argentinia when WC's happen? Or is football a summer sport there?
-
- FISO Knight
- Posts: 11937
- Joined: 13 Oct 2005, 18:28
Re: World Cup in Qatar
Brazil rare for them to play there first team in S. America other than in there version of European,they play fair few of there friendlies in Europe. Europe in football calls the tune and that will be get even more.blahblah wrote:It won't be, imho.
A nice break in winter for Qatar, and South American countries, and a summer one of Europe etc. (Meaning July and January will be clear for International Tournies.) Football or soccer is going global, and Europe isn't that relevant any more.
Has anyone wondered what has happened in Brazil and Argentinia when WC's happen? Or is football a summer sport there?
Brazilian and Argentinean league football set up very different to European model below from wicky pretty good explanation
"Around 450 registered football clubs play in the Argentine Football Association (AFA) league system, which is organized into a pyramid of eight leagues, divided at the third tier between the Greater Buenos Aires conurbation and the rest of the country (Interior). Below the fifth level there are a further 250 regional leagues which are affiliated with AFA and compete for the right to enter the league system at the lowest tier."
The Primera División uses the Apertura and Clausura format, which is the standard in Latin American football, consisting of two championships or tournaments per season (seasons are one-year long): Apertura is the name of the championship or tournament that opens the season, Clausura is the championship or tournament that closes it, and relegations and promotions from the lower tiers are defined at (or just after) the ending of each Clausura. In the particular case of Argentina, the Apertura is contested in the second half of the calendar year, and the Clausura is played in the first half of the following year (in order to synchronize the seasons with those of the European football).
- murf
- FISO Viscount
- Posts: 109604
- Joined: 13 Oct 2005, 18:28
- Location: here
- FS Record: Once led TFF. Very briefly.
- FPL:
- Contact:
Re: World Cup in Qatar
If people had actually read the links....
Blatter doesn't say it has to be in winter. He has carefully just said it can't be in Qatar in summer. A subtle but big difference. It is Platini who is keen on winter.
The tender process was clear that it had to be in summer. A winter WC could open up big lawsuits from countries who lost. ...
Blatter doesn't say it has to be in winter. He has carefully just said it can't be in Qatar in summer. A subtle but big difference. It is Platini who is keen on winter.
The tender process was clear that it had to be in summer. A winter WC could open up big lawsuits from countries who lost. ...
- blahblah
- FISO Viscount
- Posts: 108827
- Joined: 13 Oct 2005, 18:46
- Location: .. he thinks that he knows something which he doesn't, whereas I am quite concious of my ignorance.
- FPL:
Re: World Cup in Qatar
Like who? And you think they could\would not be bought out?murf wrote:A winter WC could open up big lawsuits from countries who lost. ...
Dyke has(in)advertently opened the gates(\dyke ho ho) for a January Qatar WC, imho.
- Tacalabala
- FISO Knight
- Posts: 19010
- Joined: 07 Sep 2008, 01:03
- FPL:
Re: World Cup in Qatar
Perhaps Dyke sees a winter WC as favouring English players, given that the players be at an ideal stage of the season.blahblah wrote:Like who? And you think they could\would not be bought out?murf wrote:A winter WC could open up big lawsuits from countries who lost. ...
Dyke has(in)advertently opened the gates(\dyke ho ho) for a January Qatar WC, imho.
- blahblah
- FISO Viscount
- Posts: 108827
- Joined: 13 Oct 2005, 18:46
- Location: .. he thinks that he knows something which he doesn't, whereas I am quite concious of my ignorance.
- FPL:
Re: World Cup in Qatar
Our piss heads won't be able to move in the "summer" temps
- Zimmerman
- FISO Jedi Knight
- Posts: 30211
- Joined: 13 Oct 2005, 18:42
- Location: having a picnic at the Bear Mountain
- FPL:
Re: World Cup in Qatar
Does Platinis son have links to the Qarari king or something (PSG link as well)?
- Zimmerman
- FISO Jedi Knight
- Posts: 30211
- Joined: 13 Oct 2005, 18:42
- Location: having a picnic at the Bear Mountain
- FPL:
Re: World Cup in Qatar
They'll just haggle until its too late to move it: still wrankles me that the national stadium got placed at Wembley "oooo we'll use the towers".... "Actually, can't do that, but we've spent x amount now, so %^*+ it".gazwood wrote:I've not read the articles thoroughly but wouldve thought that the votes that Qatar won during the ballet were for its proposal of a World Cup in June/July, meaning should a proposal be made to move it to the winter months then voting should be carried out again to reflect this.
- rossn13
- Grumpy Old Man
- Posts: 3899
- Joined: 14 Aug 2009, 11:46
- Location: Shenzhen, China
- FS Record: 12th TFFE 09/10
- FPL:
Re: World Cup in Qatar
He works as a lawyer for QIA, which is an investment fund for the Qatar government/royal family. Oh, and they own PSG. All a little dodgy if you ask me.Zimmerman wrote:Does Platinis son have links to the Qarari king or something (PSG link as well)?
- Charade
- Grumpy Old Man
- Posts: 4770
- Joined: 10 Dec 2009, 02:13
- Location: Auckland
Re: World Cup in Qatar
Real question is what can possibly be done about it? If this was a public entity I have a feeling it would have been absolutely wrecked by probes. A boycott would be a mess logistically and would probably ruin WCs for years.
- jimmy ching
- Dumbledore
- Posts: 9628
- Joined: 13 Oct 2005, 18:28
Re: World Cup in Qatar
Hasn't any body thought that having World Cups in winter might benefit England in the long run. They may have more chance of winning it. It's always been too hot, when the excuses start rolling out.
- blahblah
- FISO Viscount
- Posts: 108827
- Joined: 13 Oct 2005, 18:46
- Location: .. he thinks that he knows something which he doesn't, whereas I am quite concious of my ignorance.
- FPL:
Re: World Cup in Qatar
Nope, England are too shite to win a WC
- jimmy ching
- Dumbledore
- Posts: 9628
- Joined: 13 Oct 2005, 18:28
Re: World Cup in Qatar
I have a feeling this is a backhand attack by UEFA on the Premier League. Playing the League games through the winter has always benefited the English League. With my personal experience of being abroad in the winter, all the football crazy fans have a tradition of following the Premiership when their own leagues go in to hibernation. It's their tradition as much as ours. Just in my village we have Chelsea Arsenal West Ham Spurs Liverpool, the Manchesters, Newcastle and Portsmouth fans. SAY NO to the winter break.
-
- FISO Knight
- Posts: 11937
- Joined: 13 Oct 2005, 18:28
Re: World Cup in Qatar
If you change UEFA to Plattini you may have a point It has put him in a very difficult position though, as it seems Blatter is trying to distance himself from it and it seems one of the major backers of the winning bid was Plattini, he has to be very careful how he deals with this problem it could cost him his job and Dyke did not make it easy for him to make us the scapegoat in his reaction to a winter World Cup as in reality probably easier for Prem to rearrange its self than most other countries main leagues. The author of those articles is correct this could have huge impact on who runs world game and that has in my view got Blatter running scared.jimmy ching wrote:I have a feeling this is a backhand attack by UEFA on the Premier League. Playing the League games through the winter has always benefited the English League. With my personal experience of being abroad in the winter, all the football crazy fans have a tradition of following the Premiership when their own leagues go in to hibernation. It's their tradition as much as ours. Just in my village we have Chelsea Arsenal West Ham Spurs Liverpool, the Manchesters, Newcastle and Portsmouth fans. SAY NO to the winter break.
-
- Grumpy Old Man
- Posts: 3352
- Joined: 15 Oct 2009, 15:49
- Contact:
Re: World Cup in Qatar
Nothing wrong with the winter break idea, as long as it's not over the festive holiday period. Half the country would be walking around lost with no football.jimmy ching wrote:SAY NO to the winter break.
- blahblah
- FISO Viscount
- Posts: 108827
- Joined: 13 Oct 2005, 18:46
- Location: .. he thinks that he knows something which he doesn't, whereas I am quite concious of my ignorance.
- FPL:
Re: World Cup in Qatar
Ah, but there would not really be a break
There would be WC's in the southern hemisphere etc...
There would be WC's in the southern hemisphere etc...
- unc.si.
- FISO Knight
- Posts: 11811
- Joined: 11 Oct 2010, 14:08
- Location: Off to buy Loctite
- FS Record: 'Loser' by Beck
Re: World Cup in Qatar
Any truth in the rumour that Qatar are just going to buy Spain and hold the World Cup there...
- murf
- FISO Viscount
- Posts: 109604
- Joined: 13 Oct 2005, 18:28
- Location: here
- FS Record: Once led TFF. Very briefly.
- FPL:
- Contact:
Re: World Cup in Qatar
...and now FIFA's medical chief says it has to be moved to winter.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/24114961" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
But there were recent reports that the US TV folks (who have paid a fortune) are very much against a winter move as it will clash with their own gridiron nonsense.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/24114961" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
But there were recent reports that the US TV folks (who have paid a fortune) are very much against a winter move as it will clash with their own gridiron nonsense.
- jimmy ching
- Dumbledore
- Posts: 9628
- Joined: 13 Oct 2005, 18:28
Re: World Cup in Qatar
It clashes with my hibernation. I'm going to have to gradually adapt by moving to Australia.
- Surprised
- FISO Jedi Knight
- Posts: 26528
- Joined: 13 Oct 2005, 18:32
- Location: Home
- FS Record: TFFOSM MotW in 2008 and MotM in 2003. 78th overall in TFFO for 2002/3 and 2003/4
- FPL:
Re: World Cup in Qatar
Without wanting to tag FIFA as useless shits, didn't they know it was hot in Qatar before the awarded the World Cup? It can't be as though they have just realised.
- blahblah
- FISO Viscount
- Posts: 108827
- Joined: 13 Oct 2005, 18:46
- Location: .. he thinks that he knows something which he doesn't, whereas I am quite concious of my ignorance.
- FPL:
Re: World Cup in Qatar
FIFA can only be accused of allowing the bid, surely.
Pinnocchio why so many countries\associations voted for it. Maybe the answer lies somewhere here?
Pinnocchio why so many countries\associations voted for it. Maybe the answer lies somewhere here?
- Tacalabala
- FISO Knight
- Posts: 19010
- Joined: 07 Sep 2008, 01:03
- FPL:
Re: World Cup in Qatar
I'm still struggling to understand exactly why all the games can't be played at night, which I'm led to believe is far easier to deal with? Also, people are acting as though nobody in Qatar does anything during the day, it's ridiculous.
View Latest: 1 Day View Your posts