Man United Starting XI - 07/08

Post by **scotpool** » 05 Jul 2007, 17:09

chrislondonlad wrote:
shawpower wrote:Given that it now appears likely that Utd have bought Tevez, at least for a year, how would that affect the lineup? I don't know if himself and Rooney are too similar a player to work together?
They said that about Hughes and Cantona when he signed Eric. The likleyhood is that Rooney will play deeper and Tevez operate as the most forward player. And the once a season that Saha has an injury free run, they'll each get a one game rest.

Hughes and Cantona similar!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Post by **scotpool** » 05 Jul 2007, 17:13

shawpower wrote:Tevez and Rooney are both pretty good for closing down. As is Scholes and Giggs. And Smith if he plays. Not saying they are good at it though.

But I do kind of see your point.

[edit] Actually I've just noticed that you mention which of the new signings will do that. We'll I don't know as I've not seen enough of them. But it doesn't really matter, as they can't all be on the pitch at the same time. And I'm sure that Rooney, Scholes and Giggs will play as first choice.

Scholes good at closing down, he can't tackle for a toffee, and Giggs has been told he won't play as much this season. Unlikely that Sholes and Giggs will be first choice, too old for a start.

Post by **blahblah** » 05 Jul 2007, 17:18

blahblah wrote:
VDS (I assume Foster will have to wait, and prove himself in the League Cup)

Neville
Ferdinand
Vidic
Evra

Carrick
Hargreaves

Ronaldo
Rooney (Scholes)
Giggs

Saha/A.N. Other/Rooney.

Make that Tevez for Giggs. I would have thought a Saha replacement would have been more sensible, though.

Post by **Pouzar** » 05 Jul 2007, 23:10

Tevez is not just another Saha. I thought he was best player in the Prem in the last third of last season. If he comes to OT and plays like that United will be truely frightening. Any defence that has to deal with Tezez, Rooney, Ronaldo, Scholes and Giggs all at once deserves danger pay. And this is not a knock on Saha, who is a pacy, quality striker. I just think Tevez is world class.
I expect to see Scholes and Giggs begin as starters, with Nani and Anderson working their way in as the season progresses.

Post by **chrislondonlad** » 06 Jul 2007, 09:24

Pouzar wrote:Tevez is not just another Saha.

No kidding.

For Saha, every day is

Post by **viddleodge** » 27 Jul 2007, 23:39

so why's neville been missing from the pre-season campaign so far?
any chance he won't start till say september and brown will be in his place?

Post by **Darbyand** » 29 Jul 2007, 12:54

blahblah wrote:
blahblah wrote:
VDS (I assume Foster will have to wait, and prove himself in the League Cup)

Neville
Ferdinand
Vidic
Evra

Carrick
Hargreaves

Ronaldo
Rooney (Scholes)
Giggs

Saha/A.N. Other/Rooney.
Make that Tevez for Giggs. I would have thought a Saha replacement would have been more sensible, though.

I thought you had it spot on first time with Tevez as the A.N. Other and Giggs rotating with Nani. That'll be the big feature for me this season - Scholes and Giggs having a lot less time on the field. I like the formation above - easy to switch to 4-4-2 with the wingers dropping back a bit and Rooney going up front.

Definitely agree that the Carrick/Hargreaves pairing in the middle will be the one for the future. This article is pretty good if it's anywhere near to guessing Fergie's real thoughts.
http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/sport/2007/ ... _with.html

Post by **7lb claimer** » 29 Jul 2007, 14:21

If Hargreaves plays as well as before his injury, then I can see Carrick's position being under threat. Giggs and Scholes have a couple more seasons at least [according to SAF] and Nani is a fantastic player. After seeing him in the friendlies I can see a u turn on the original plan to ease him in throughout the season. He was all over the field and looked totally at home with the rest of the team - and his goals were superb. It's mind boggling to think that Anderson could be equally as good. Man U must have very good scouts

Post by **Anarchy** » 06 Aug 2007, 17:10

So what do Man U peeps think of Evra playing in midfield yesterday?
Has he not yet made the left back position his own (as many here have presumed) or was Fergie just experimenting?

Post by **dandg** » 13 Aug 2007, 20:03

VS Reading (according to MOTD)

Subs
Brown

(Fletcher 77),
Silvestre

(O'Shea 57)
Rooney

(Nani 46)

Post by **anon6** » 13 Aug 2007, 21:26

I'm liking the team lineups dandg

Post by **dandg** » 16 Aug 2007, 22:03

VS PO

Post by **Fantasist** » 22 Aug 2007, 10:27

Heard a whisper that Louis Saha may be starting on Sunday against Tottenham. Anybody in the know to confirm/deny?

Post by **robbielee** » 22 Aug 2007, 10:49

Fantasist wrote:Heard a whisper that Louis Saha may be starting on Sunday against Tottenham. Anybody in the know to confirm/deny?

He has been in full first team training for approximately 2 weeks so he should be pushing for a return fairly soon, particularly with our current striker shortage!!

Post by **Chrisharry12345** » 22 Aug 2007, 13:28

Fantasist wrote:Heard a whisper that Louis Saha may be starting on Sunday against Tottenham. Anybody in the know to confirm/deny?

I hered the same thing.. bbc news i think?

Post by **blahblah** » 22 Aug 2007, 19:35

Chrisharry12345 wrote:
Fantasist wrote:Heard a whisper that Louis Saha may be starting on Sunday against Tottenham. Anybody in the know to confirm/deny?

I hered the same thing.. bbc news i think?

Interesting.

Was anyone else surprised when MU moved for Tevez, rather than Berbatov? the big centre forward is what MU are missing not another creative behind the striker player.

R5 just said Heinz has signed for Real Madrid.

Post by **Fantasist** » 22 Aug 2007, 22:42

Agree there 'blah'. Saha offers so much, it's a crying shame he has suffered so many injuries because when fit he offers a perfect balance to a Rooney/Tevez type player.

The Heinze move is said to be agreed, although I'd heard it was being completed tomorrow. R5 are probably more on the pulse than me though

Post by **Beerfuelledman** » 22 Aug 2007, 22:49

Always saw Saha as a RVN back-up, even at £12m, and a very capable one too. Perhaps Tevez was bought simply out of the opportunity being there? He's certainly looking like a good idea with Rooney out. I still think Utd will buy again before the Window closes. My Money is on Anelka, though that surely would be the death toll for Bolton.

Post by **Chief Wiggsy** » 23 Aug 2007, 07:37

Beerfuelledman wrote:Always saw Saha as a RVN back-up, even at £12m, and a very capable one too. Perhaps Tevez was bought simply out of the opportunity being there? He's certainly looking like a good idea with Rooney out. I still think Utd will buy again before the Window closes. My Money is on Anelka, though that surely would be the death toll for Bolton.

Don't Fergie would go for Anelka. He knows what a stinker Anelka could be and what bad he could do to the camp as much as the good he could do in front of goal.

Post by **Pasty** » 23 Aug 2007, 09:03

Gossip is Fergie has upped an initial offer towards Bolton for Anelka

Post by **itchy** » 23 Aug 2007, 10:45

Two things to think about IMO: -

1. Man U need a proven premiership goalscorer - Anelka fits the bill there;
2. If any manager can sort out Le Sulk, it will be Ferguson - the same manager that has got the best out of hotheads like Cantona, Hughes, Keane and Ince, and bought Rooney (who has calmed considerably on the pitch since his early Everton/England days).

I certainly wouldn't be surprised if Anelka is a Man U player by the end of August - very good buy IMO, if the money is right.

It would also make sense - he's settled in the Northwest; Bolton are going nowhere now Big Sam has left (IMO, they will be relegated within 3 seasons, including this one); Le Sulk wants to play Champions League football.

Post by **murf** » 23 Aug 2007, 10:53

itchy wrote:2. If any manager can sort out Le Sulk, it will be Ferguson - the same manager that has got the best out of hotheads like Cantona, Hughes, Keane and Ince, and bought Rooney (who has calmed considerably on the pitch since his early Everton/England days).

The same manager who simply despatched people he couldn't sort out?

(Brand) Beckham, Stam, Ince, Sharp and others.

Not sure of the reasons but Houllier decided against taking the risk on Anelka despite him behaving and playing well during his 5 months on loan (I wish it had worked out and we'd have bought him instaeda of Diouf but thats another thread...). Ferguson would be taking a risk but, as a player, he is what United need (and Houllier needed)

Post by **robbielee** » 23 Aug 2007, 10:55

Jamie Redknapp speaking on SKY the other day said that Anelka was a top bloke at Liverpool and immensely popular with all the other players, said his "sulk" image is complete tosh.

Post by **Jonathan** » 23 Aug 2007, 10:58

When I play, I am fully focussed and people call me sulky. However, I am sh*te at football and don't want to embarrass myself further by speaking! I think Fergie could sort him - but a good signing. Utd NEED a proper goalscorer.

Post by **murf** » 23 Aug 2007, 10:59

robbielee wrote:Jamie Redknapp speaking on SKY the other day said that Anelka was a top bloke at Liverpool and immensely popular with all the other players, said his "sulk" image is complete tosh.

He was. There was something though that stopped Houllier signing him. Rumours were about the influence of his agent (and brother?) but nobody knows for sure.

He'd be a cracking buy for United on most counts.

Post by **DixieDean** » 23 Aug 2007, 11:04

Arsenal reject...

Sorry.

Post by **itchy** » 23 Aug 2007, 11:09

murf wrote:
itchy wrote:2. If any manager can sort out Le Sulk, it will be Ferguson - the same manager that has got the best out of hotheads like Cantona, Hughes, Keane and Ince, and bought Rooney (who has calmed considerably on the pitch since his early Everton/England days).
The same manager who simply despatched people he couldn't sort out?

(Brand) Beckham, Stam, Ince, Sharp and others.

Not sure of the reasons but Houllier decided against taking the risk on Anelka despite him behaving and playing well during his 5 months on loan (I wish it had worked out and we'd have bought him instaeda of Diouf but thats another thread...). Ferguson would be taking a risk but, as a player, he is what United need (and Houllier needed)

Interesting point of view Murf, particularly as the players you've mentioned spent a combined total of 27 years at the club.

Hardly a manager that simply despatches people, IMO.

If anything, Fergie got the best out of each of them, despite their failings/difficulties, and then sold them whilst they were still worth something......that's called good management.

Post by **murf** » 23 Aug 2007, 11:11

itchy wrote: Interesting point of view Murf, particularly as the players you've mentioned spent a combined total of 27 years at the club.

Hardly a manager that simply despatches people, IMO.

If anything, Fergie got the best out of each of them, despite their failings/difficulties, and then sold them whilst they were still worth something......that's called good management.

I wouldn't disgaree - just saying he doesn't like disruptive influences and can't 'cure' every wayward player.

Post by **blahblah** » 23 Aug 2007, 12:07

murf wrote:
itchy wrote: Interesting point of view Murf, particularly as the players you've mentioned spent a combined total of 27 years at the club.

Hardly a manager that simply despatches people, IMO.

If anything, Fergie got the best out of each of them, despite their failings/difficulties, and then sold them whilst they were still worth something......that's called good management.
I wouldn't disgaree - just saying he doesn't like disruptive influences and can't 'cure' every wayward player.

Allegedly it was his relatives that caused the trouble at Arsenal, too. So Fergie would not have to cure the player, but his family. He never managed this with Ms Adams, as it was David's off field activities which annoyed Fergie.

Is Berbatov Ok at Spurs if Jol is staying?

Post by **blahblah** » 24 Aug 2007, 09:55

Anyone know how close Saha is to playing?

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