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Eckerslike wrote:What do you Liverpool fans think about the loan of Ilori to Villa with an option to buy?
What's this lad like?
As he has never played a first team game despite being at the club a few years now it is hard to tell! Think he has done OK on loan but the fact he has gone on loan AGAIN and the option price suggested probably tells you enough about his level and prospects on the English game.

Gomes aside (is Wisdom still officially a red?), Liverpool aren't exactly flush with up and coming CBs so would have kept him if they truly believed in him.

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Safe to say I'm no longer in the minority as Regards the Kings Clothes and my hatred toward him and being the Liverpool manager.








Sugar ray • a day ago


Rodgers has lost the plot ,screeds of players in and out every season doesn't work neither does changing formation three times during a match !
Signs of inexperience everywhere ,the stench of desperation looms ,unfortunately the owners are to far off to smell it .





lee > Sugar ray • a day ago





Its like he is playing football manager in real life. Signing 10 players every summer.



Ghazi • a day ago





Would have been nice to see a player of the calibre of Reus or Lacazette partnering Benteke up front against West Ham, instead of seeing Benteke stranded at the top of the field, much like Balotelli before him. Looks like Rodgers will never learn.








tazz > Ghazi • a day ago





Meanwhile Mario Balotelli scores a screamer for AC Milan.

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Ghazi > tazz • a day ago





He needs to play two up front. And he needs to drop Lovren. That's just the basics that every fan can see. Then again, it was obvious that Balotelli was useless up front on his own, and yet Rodgers kept playing him up front on his own for game after game, after game, as we gradually slipped down the table.

I guess he knows best. *sigh*

(What's he gonna do when Sturridge comes back in to the fray? Play Benteke at CB?)

His days are numbered.




The Master > Ghazi • a day ago





I honestly think FSG won't get rid of Rodgers until the last year of his contract at the earliest.

In fact I wouldn't be surprised if they offer him a new one next summer - you heard it here first

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Ghazi > The Master • a day ago





I hope you're wrong.













The Seldom Seen Kid > The Master • 17 hours ago





The fact they kept him on at the end of last season with even more money should raise alarm bells. Tim Sherwood will be next on the list - he fits their profile.








Lady ~ Bird. > tazz • a day ago





typical, watch Borini will be next








Lillie...x > tazz • a day ago





As did Ricky Lambert when he left..Markovic scored on international duty and Ilori and Borini well we can take a good guess. x








Louis Lover > tazz • 21 hours ago





No joke! it comes to show it is not the players but the coaches style. BR almost ruined Balo's carrier. Watch Borini score goals for Sunderland as well. BR is a soccer scandal!



The Master > Ghazi • a day ago





It doesn't matter who we sign, we won't win anything with Rodgers at the helm.

Best for their sake if we avoid signing these top players altogether while BR's in charge, maybe that's the FSG strategy right there.




carr71and a half > The Master • 19 hours ago





tell us something we do not know we all know the reason rodgers is still here its because hes taking the attention away from fsg shafting the club




David Cassar • a day ago





How long has B.R been around for now?And he still can't get the transfers right,the team still needs strengthening in certain areas.When will he ever learn?









Lady ~ Bird. > David Cassar • a day ago





He's had SEVEN transfer windows to build a team and get it right!
















carr71and a half > Lady ~ Bird. • 19 hours ago





is that how many you get for breaking a mirror
god it was my fault i broke it ,but now is time is up










Lady ~ Bird. > carr71and a half • 18 hours ago





haha bet I've broken more;)
it's madness when you look at it as seven transfer windows, puts it into perspective.









carr71and a half > Lady ~ Bird. • 18 hours ago





you could give him 77 and he still would not have a team










Lady ~ Bird. > carr71and a half • 17 hours ago





they'd all be loaned out ;)


Paul Wright > Lady ~ Bird. • a day ago





am sure bodgers said at the very start of his first season it would
take 3 yrs to build the players up and yet i still think he will be gone
by xmas time or at least the end of the season hopefully when i move to
liverpool next yr he will be gone regardless i think this is his last
season if he screws this one up he is gone






hesky • a day ago





there are no goals in this side. Harry Redknapp was spot on. We also look likely to ship 3 or 4 goals every game. We should really be on 3 points if refererees had beeen correct so far.





Ian Jones > hesky • 19 hours ago





Correct. 1 proper goal scored and 5 conceded had the referees been awake. Awful style of play with Big Ben getting poor service. This is the worst LFC team I have ever seen in 50 years. Take away Sturridge and Coutinho and this squad is bereft of talent.


Bob the builder • a day ago





So they can write about fans being happy about the transfer business but nothing on the manager?? Wow the force is so strong with James Pearce that even Yoda is pale in comparison to him.





Jayfeller • a day ago





I wasn't so much unhappy with the signings as I was with the amount of money we paid for them.
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£29m for Firmino??? It's gone passed madness...
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I'm prepared to give any player a chance, but Rodgers isn't a manager that will improve a player. If he buys a player and it doesn't work out, the player leaves 12 months after. Too many of his signings haven't worked out, so it says to me that he doesn't even know what he's buying never mind how to utilise him.
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This management lark just goes to show that management is easy money, and if it doesn't work...kerching! I'm sure if he gets sacked he'll get a nice pay-off, plus all of the other business interests that managers have (due to who they are) will keep them sweet.
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I could manage Liverpool...you could manage Liverpool...do you think a few coaching badges makes any difference?

As the Mexicans said in Blazing Saddles..."Badges??? We don't need no stinking BADGES!"



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carr71and a half > Jayfeller • 19 hours ago


firmino was absolute madness 20 million would have been to much in my book
who else wanted him he had,had one decent season







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TNUC A 'SREGDOR • a day ago





Brendan Rodgers,

Stop messing with the club. Stop ruining the careers of young players. Get out of the club. Go and do your property rental business full time, and leave football to the professionals.

An angry fan.



Lady ~ Bird. > Paul Wright • a day ago





Yes totally agree he set himself a target and failed himself the club and the fans I think the Manu game will be the biggest decider for the fans as there's only so much suffering or pretending all is rosey you can take.
I wish FSG would listen to the experts
"our fans" x

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Is that from RAWK?

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dunno these were the comments off the back of a Liverpool echo article on Liverpool so far this season.

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spot on from one of Livepools best ever defenders.

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/ma ... ng-9996897

and especially the comments at the end of the piece.

I've never known Abfield empty out early like the Library when are the eff opwners gonna take notice that Rodgers is a complete waste of eff time and a fraud.

GET eff RID !

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Spot on from one of aliverpools best ever players.

Former Liverpool winger Steve McManaman feels both Manchester United and Liverpool have "lost their identity" as the two sides meet in the Premier League on Saturday. (Independent)


RODGERS & VAN GAEL. Two of the most overrated managers in my eff lifetime. Both succeeding in bleeding them dry with mercenaries.

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Things won't improve at Liverpool until the "Kings new clothes" has gone. The transfer of Sterling was inevitable because of the public humiliation he gave him in the "Being Liverpool" documentary. Probably some form of mind games like the names of three players who would let him down stunt.His treatment of Gerrard was appalling when he said no player had a God given right to play for the club. I would think the majority of supporters disagreed with that. His transfer policy is crap. Has anyone ever watched Milner play and thought he would be a good addition to any team? He is Henderson like in that he will run around like a chickenless head for 90 minutes with very little end result. He has paid well over the odds for piss poor players like Lovren, Balotelli and perhaps the worst of the lot,Lallana.By far the worst manager since Souness started the rot. The man has no credibility, but on the plus side he has a new girlfriend and new teeth.

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Lallana not that bad. Might help if he got back to full fitness. His Premier League and England performances suggest a lot more to come in the red shirt. Milner very average though I agree.

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Milner was free and is a brilliant addition now Gerrard's experience has gone.

His treatment of Gerrard was fine. Personally I'd have used him even less over the last 2 years.

Lallana is an enigma. Feels like he will take off one day but....

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Milner probably negotiated a massive signing on fee and £100k+ per week wages. That doesn't sound free to me for a journeyman player on his last contract and with very limited ability. Have to agree that Lallana is an enigma as I can't understand how how he cost so much and contributes nothing to the team. The comment about Gerrard appears childish and does not deserve an adult response.Are you the only member of the Brendan Rogers fan club Murf?

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Subsonic wrote:Milner probably negotiated a massive signing on fee and £100k+ per week wages. That doesn't sound free to me for a journeyman player on his last contract and with very limited ability. Have to agree that Lallana is an enigma as I can't understand how how he cost so much and contributes nothing to the team. The comment about Gerrard appears childish and does not deserve an adult response.Are you the only member of the Brendan Rogers fan club Murf?
Yes he is and Milner is actually paid more like £150,000 a eff week.

http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j& ... XdwyiZY4SQ


I seriously cannot fathom how Rodgers continues to persist in trying to prove his judgement is better than everyone else's out there.

It would seem, much like Joe Crab Allen, Lovren will keep his place tomorrow even after the calamatious showing against WHU and every other time he sets foot on the pitch.
Just watch Lovren and nothing else and you will cringe in how he bottles headers, how he runs around clueless, he's hopeless slow, and last but not least- HE IS eff SHITE.

His potential replacement would be Sakoshite who is Lovren mark 2.


Liverpools priority this season should of been a complete overhaul of the defence and that meant tata to Mignolet, Johnson, Lovren, Sakho and Moreno.

Rodgers has bought in Clyne and a potential Clyne back up playing out of position at left back.

He, like has already been mentioned, bought in a distinctly average midfielder in Milner paid an inflated salary and is as ordinary as Henderson.

Bought in a CK in Firmino who looks another Aquilani, or Markovic and spunked another £29 million on that.

Ibe's confidence seems shot don't have a clue why he has regressed, maybe he's had a fall out with Rodgers much like Sterling did.

Ings is a younger version of Lambert- fish out of water but will try 100 pct and last but not least we come to the mercenary Benteke.

now in the right fit he woulc be a good player- right fit beiong a team that plays with width and wingers to ping balls into the box for the lump to get on the end of.. Well that's not Liverpool and not how Liverpool will even in the future be set up.

Rodgers hasn't got a eff Scooby and I hope utd score 5 tomorrow and the owners wake up from their slumber and see sense to get rid of this poison now.

I would definitely stick a couple of young defenders in at centre half from the youth ranks one should be GOMEZ because there is not an earthly they could be as poor as any partnership that Rodgers sends out.


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Agree 100% sleuth. It's getting to the stage that Graham Taylor was at when England manager. Although heartbreaking to see, perhaps several losses might see the back of Rogers and a new start. He has shown himself not fit to be handed money to spend on a team. He should stick to his housing investments.

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Subsonic wrote:Are you the only member of the Brendan Rogers fan club Murf?
I'm no Rodgers fan, far from it but feel I have to defend someone who got us as close to a league title in 25 years as anyone (cue Suarez comments yada yada yada) and isn't half as bad as the vitriolic, tabloid reading, knuckle scraping mob suggest.

I'll not bother anymore. I'll leave you all screaming to yourselves.

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murf wrote:
Subsonic wrote:Are you the only member of the Brendan Rogers fan club Murf?
I'm no Rodgers fan, far from it but feel I have to defend someone who got us as close to a league title in 25 years as anyone (cue Suarez comments yada yada yada) and isn't half as bad as the vitriolic, tabloid reading, knuckle scraping mob suggest.

I'll not bother anymore. I'll leave you all screaming to yourselves.

Go and read some Liverpool forums. People are now baying for his head thank eff.

He's screwed his wife, he's screwed his back up staff, his Physio's wife, Gerrard, Sterling for playing him all over the shop, and he's still eff screwing Liverpool.

Just eff do 1 and eff off Rodgers. I hope there's a property crash and his wife takes him to the eff cleaners in court when it gets there in his messy divorce.

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The only problem with this article is the time the owners get around to smelling the eff coffee, Klopp wont be around to be an option.

Afterall. who would want to come in with the thankless task of sorting out the eff mishmash of shite Rodgers has assembled.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footba ... years.html

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sleuth wrote:The only problem with this article is the time the owners get around to smelling the eff coffee, Klopp wont be around to be an option.
Without totally disagreeing with it, the article's main problem is that it is completely dull, pointless crap that tells us nothing we don't know and doesn't go anywhere!!

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murf wrote:
sleuth wrote:The only problem with this article is the time the owners get around to smelling the eff coffee, Klopp wont be around to be an option.
Without totally disagreeing with it, the article's main problem is that it is completely dull, pointless crap that tells us nothing we don't know and doesn't go anywhere!!

Crap! It's kept in the public domain and when Liverpool lose on Thursday and Sunday it will be splashed over every back page newspaper baying for that smarmy chap head.

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I don't think Thursday's result will influence much (with Christian Benteke, James Milner, Lucas Leiva, Dejan Lovren, Nathaniel Clyne and Martin Skrtel all supposedly rested and Henderson and Sturridge still injured) - http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/fo ... e-10067984

Lose on sunday at home to Norwich and you may have a point.....

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Rogers should be playing his strongest possible team for each game, particularly in the Europa League as this will be the only way back into the Champions league by winning it. I do not include Lovren, Milner, Henderson, Moreno or Sakho in that best possible team. The sooner he is sacked the better. How can he spend millions on Benteke and leave him out of a European game is beyond me. Mind you, the reason for the vast majority of his signings is beyond comprehension. He has been found out and needs to go before he drags the team down further.The owners should throw as much money as is required to bring in Klopp or another top manager before we become relegation fodder.

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Subsonic wrote: I do not include Lovren, Milner, Henderson, Moreno or Sakho in that best possible team.
Good luck picking a balanced XI with none of them!

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What will the team be this weekend?? Had 3 CBs last night and afterwards,:

Rodgers said: "Sakho was immense at the back. He knows he has had to be patient and his attitude has been first class.
"He has trained very well, kept professional, done his extra work on his fitness and he has got his rewards for that.
"He certainly comes into the reckoning for the weekend against Norwich."

Think there is a reasonable chance of 3 CBs (Sakho(L), Skrtel(C), Gomez(R) - with Lovren a possible on the right, maybe Gomez switching to L) with Moreno and Clyne as wing backs.

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You're missing the point Murf. I'd have to agree it would be impossible to pick a balanced team without the players I picked out, but that's because they don't fit together.
He's had over three years to put together a decent squad and has failed miserably. He spent £32 million on Benteke but where are the players to put decent balls into the box for him? He constantly puts players out of their normal positions. He needs to go quickly, or we will be stuck with mid-table mediocrity and no Champions League for years to come. Tenth in the league is not good enough.

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Subsonic wrote:You're missing the point Murf. I'd have to agree it would be impossible to pick a balanced team without the players I picked out, but that's because they don't fit together.
He's had over three years to put together a decent squad and has failed miserably. He spent £32 million on Benteke but where are the players to put decent balls into the box for him? He constantly puts players out of their normal positions. He needs to go quickly, or we will be stuck with mid-table mediocrity and no Champions League for years to come. Tenth in the league is not good enough.
To be pedantic you were referring to him putting out the strongest possible team, specifically for last night's game. I won't bother rehashing the Rodgers go/stay argument but without your players the best I can come up with is:

Mig
Clyne Toure Skrtel Gomez
Can Lucas
Lallana Coutinho Firmino (Ibe??)
Benteke

which admittedly isn't that awful/unbalanced but IMHO would be better with at least 2 of your banned list in it!

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As a lifelong Liverpool supporter I am only interested in the club doing well. Rogers is taking us backwards and something has to be done quickly. His man management qualities are extremely dubious:-See the" Being Liverpool-Sterling" outake on youtube, in which he tore into Sterling and repeated it again in a short period of time-The real reason he left in my opinion. This was probably some form of mind games in that by picking on one player sets him up to be tough. He also did the names of three players in envelopes that would let the team down stunt-something previously done by Alex Ferguson. His treatment of Gerrard was an absolute disgrace which ultimately led to him leaving. What has happened to Jose Enrique? He is extremely confident and can "talk the talk but cannot walk the walk". He has managed to convince many people that he is a top four manager but he is nothing of the sort. The nickname "The Kings new clothes" fits him perfectly. The squad today is far worse than when he arrived despite all the money he has spent/squandered.

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1-1 at home against the mighty Norwich.It's becoming sole destroying. Read earlier on another site that Rodgers had improved several things while he's been at Liverpool;His home, his bird, his teeth ,his tan and bank balance while destroying the club. He'll take us down if he isn't stopped.

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Subsonic wrote:1-1 at home against the mighty Norwich.It's becoming sole destroying. Rodgers destroying the club. He'll take us down if he isn't stopped.
Well now he has been :D
In comes Mr Klopp of the kop 8-) interesting (hopefully succesfull) times ahead for the mighty reds :D

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He ticks all my boxes so far but it remains to be seen if he persists with some of the shite Rodgers has bought.

If he plays Lovren he will go down in my esteem bigtime.

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Go down in your esteem? :lol:

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sleuth wrote:He ticks all my boxes so far but it remains to be seen if he persists with some of the shite Rodgers has bought.

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Unfortunately he's gonna have to at least until january,then hopefully he'l be given some decent funds and can then start putting his own stamp on the team.
Although i do hope for big improvement before then.

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sleuth wrote:He ticks all my boxes so far but it remains to be seen if he persists with some of the shite Rodgers has bought.

If he plays Lovren he will go down in my esteem bigtime.

If Rodgers picks up another managers job he might come back to buy some of the shite he bought for Liverpool. The Welsh Xavi for instance. Think the future looks good with Klopp. The purple nosed bustard has said he thinks we'll do well with him as a manager.

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