Everton General Chat & Starting XI Thread
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Personally I think Martinez' tactics will impact Baines. There isn't generally an out and out left sided midfielder for him to link up with. We seem to be playing two off the striker and Baines is having to come infield. He's top class so he'll adjust.
You've got the 4 steady picks in midfield. Might not even be a 5th midfielder if we play 3CBs and wing backs.
Solid picks are probably:
Howard
Baines
Coleman
Jagielka
Distin
Fellaini
Gibson
Mirrallas
Pienaar
Then there's quite a few players competing for places.
You've got the 4 steady picks in midfield. Might not even be a 5th midfielder if we play 3CBs and wing backs.
Solid picks are probably:
Howard
Baines
Coleman
Jagielka
Distin
Fellaini
Gibson
Mirrallas
Pienaar
Then there's quite a few players competing for places.
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Agree with that 'core' team. Can add Jelly too, given his form heading into the first game.. OK, it IS preseason but he does look a lot sharper than this time last year. He's featured in a majoity of the games and looking most likely to start next week.Howard
Baines
Coleman
Jagielka
Distin
Fellaini
Gibson
Mirrallas
Pienaar
The other big questions pertain to the Role of Kone and Barkley. As Martinez appears to love the latter, if only mostly visible through praise as opposed to game time...
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Kone's had just two halves (plus 10 minutes yesterday). Can't see him starting when Jelavic has done well.
Barkley's pre season went from the sublime to the ridiculous. He's definitely not ready for a big role but if Gibson is injured and Fellaini injured or sold, well, what alternative do we have?
Barkley's pre season went from the sublime to the ridiculous. He's definitely not ready for a big role but if Gibson is injured and Fellaini injured or sold, well, what alternative do we have?
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Ridiculously good?tedbull wrote:Kone's had just two halves (plus 10 minutes yesterday). Can't see him starting when Jelavic has done well.
Barkley's pre season went from the sublime to the ridiculous. He's definitely not ready for a big role but if Gibson is injured and Fellaini injured or sold, well, what alternative do we have?
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Martinez more likely to play a mercurial player than Moyes I would guess.
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Regrettably not. Flashes of his ability followed by really poor errors. Decision making is very poor.Ironfist wrote:Ridiculously good?tedbull wrote:Kone's had just two halves (plus 10 minutes yesterday). Can't see him starting when Jelavic has done well.
Barkley's pre season went from the sublime to the ridiculous. He's definitely not ready for a big role but if Gibson is injured and Fellaini injured or sold, well, what alternative do we have?
Agree claimer, RM is probably more likely to go for that than Moyes. And the only way to improve his decisions in first team football is to give him games.
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Decent analysis of Everton's match against Norwich here. May benefit people who want to know who played where etc. And stat fans! Bit of a spotlight on Barkley too.
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A pretty good article from the Telegraph
Sylvain Distin and Phil Jagielka exchanged passes deep in their own half during the 0-0 draw with West Bromwich Albion in a position where for the last few years they would have felt obliged to go more direct.
There was an audible murmur from a small section of the home fans and the debate about whether 'passing for passing sake’ serves a purpose beyond pleasing the new manager.
It seemed brutally premature for any show of dissent, but it demonstrated why evolving the blueprint left by David Moyes with a sprinkling of Spanish flair won’t be so straightforward for Martínez.
At their most effective under Moyes, Everton moved the ball from back to front as quickly as possible and were happy to win with brawn as much as artistry. In this goalless draw, outplaying rather than overpowering the opponent was the chief ambition. It amounted to a getting to know you operation requiring further work before familiarity breeds content.
The problem for Martínez is that under Moyes there was a well hidden and broadly disguised split among Everton fans as to what they wanted from this side.
Some tolerated what they perceived as the cautious pragmatism of the Scot because he made the side notoriously tough to beat (only Chelsea won here last season), but others were consistently frustrated by the ultra-vigilance, particularly away from home, where the team was often set up to avoid defeat rather than go for it.
Martínez joined a club where there is desire for more of the same but better, rather than a complete rethink on how to play. It may mean a step back is inevitable before there can be a more permanent leap forward.
He insists he wants Everton to be multi-dimensional. "There’s going to be a bit of a process," he said.
"It’s going to take a little bit of time to be able to make that transition to do things in a different way.
"Remember that it’s not looking for drastic changes. We want to keep all the good things we have at Goodison and use it to our advantage. I need to use all the strengths we have and then on top of that give us more options and dimensions. But overall we want to be a more rounded team where we can be more flexible.
"I could give you four or five flashes that we had in the game. The next thing is to do it for 60 or 70 minutes. It’s not trying to find something that we haven’t got. It’s just making it last longer so we are more in control of our own performance."
It must be hoped impatience won’t sabotage Martínez’s plans, because there is much to look forward to here if he gets it right.
Ross Barkley is a rare talent but still needs longer to develop, and beyond him you’ll be hearing the names Kieran Dowell and Ryan Ledson in the future, Everton’s Academy continuing to compensate for lack of transfer funds.
For all the home frustration, West Brom still had their goalkeeper and the woodwork to thank for the point.
Ben Foster must be pushing Joe Hart ever closer for a starting place in the England team, his consistency levels rising. Sadly for him, he needs a scan on an ankle problem sustained 12 minutes before time.
Both sides looked badly in need of more firepower in attack, but with Nicolas Anelka considering his future and Manchester United still prowling Goodison, the priority for Steve Clarke and Martinez is retaining everyone in their squad as much as reinforcing it.
Sylvain Distin and Phil Jagielka exchanged passes deep in their own half during the 0-0 draw with West Bromwich Albion in a position where for the last few years they would have felt obliged to go more direct.
There was an audible murmur from a small section of the home fans and the debate about whether 'passing for passing sake’ serves a purpose beyond pleasing the new manager.
It seemed brutally premature for any show of dissent, but it demonstrated why evolving the blueprint left by David Moyes with a sprinkling of Spanish flair won’t be so straightforward for Martínez.
At their most effective under Moyes, Everton moved the ball from back to front as quickly as possible and were happy to win with brawn as much as artistry. In this goalless draw, outplaying rather than overpowering the opponent was the chief ambition. It amounted to a getting to know you operation requiring further work before familiarity breeds content.
The problem for Martínez is that under Moyes there was a well hidden and broadly disguised split among Everton fans as to what they wanted from this side.
Some tolerated what they perceived as the cautious pragmatism of the Scot because he made the side notoriously tough to beat (only Chelsea won here last season), but others were consistently frustrated by the ultra-vigilance, particularly away from home, where the team was often set up to avoid defeat rather than go for it.
Martínez joined a club where there is desire for more of the same but better, rather than a complete rethink on how to play. It may mean a step back is inevitable before there can be a more permanent leap forward.
He insists he wants Everton to be multi-dimensional. "There’s going to be a bit of a process," he said.
"It’s going to take a little bit of time to be able to make that transition to do things in a different way.
"Remember that it’s not looking for drastic changes. We want to keep all the good things we have at Goodison and use it to our advantage. I need to use all the strengths we have and then on top of that give us more options and dimensions. But overall we want to be a more rounded team where we can be more flexible.
"I could give you four or five flashes that we had in the game. The next thing is to do it for 60 or 70 minutes. It’s not trying to find something that we haven’t got. It’s just making it last longer so we are more in control of our own performance."
It must be hoped impatience won’t sabotage Martínez’s plans, because there is much to look forward to here if he gets it right.
Ross Barkley is a rare talent but still needs longer to develop, and beyond him you’ll be hearing the names Kieran Dowell and Ryan Ledson in the future, Everton’s Academy continuing to compensate for lack of transfer funds.
For all the home frustration, West Brom still had their goalkeeper and the woodwork to thank for the point.
Ben Foster must be pushing Joe Hart ever closer for a starting place in the England team, his consistency levels rising. Sadly for him, he needs a scan on an ankle problem sustained 12 minutes before time.
Both sides looked badly in need of more firepower in attack, but with Nicolas Anelka considering his future and Manchester United still prowling Goodison, the priority for Steve Clarke and Martinez is retaining everyone in their squad as much as reinforcing it.
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So what are we making of Roberto's attacking, passing football?
Wake me up when we go back to playing dull stuff like last year.
Wake me up when we go back to playing dull stuff like last year.
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To be fair Roberto is going to need time to stamp his vision on the club.
BR went through the same situation with us last year, he needed his players to play the game the way he wanted to play it, and without being negative about the players we have let go since BR took over, they were just not up to the job.
With a season behind them now, we are seeing the fruits of BR's labours in style of play and results, this will prob be the same for Martinez at Everton, changing the tactics and methods at a club is like making a huge ship change direction, it takes time and patience.
BR went through the same situation with us last year, he needed his players to play the game the way he wanted to play it, and without being negative about the players we have let go since BR took over, they were just not up to the job.
With a season behind them now, we are seeing the fruits of BR's labours in style of play and results, this will prob be the same for Martinez at Everton, changing the tactics and methods at a club is like making a huge ship change direction, it takes time and patience.
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He'll get time. I wouldn't expect to hear too many boos at Goodison (they'd be drowned out by the yawns anyway).
But it does make a mockery of those who criticised our style of football (many on this forum) and said that RM would bring more goals and fewer clean sheets. At present we are nowhere near as adventurous as last year.
But it does make a mockery of those who criticised our style of football (many on this forum) and said that RM would bring more goals and fewer clean sheets. At present we are nowhere near as adventurous as last year.
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Partly down to it being a misconception that Moyes is a dull, defensive coach?tedbull wrote:He'll get time. I wouldn't expect to hear too many boos at Goodison (they'd be drowned out by the yawns anyway).
But it does make a mockery of those who criticised our style of football (many on this forum) and said that RM would bring more goals and fewer clean sheets. At present we are nowhere near as adventurous as last year.
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Agree with this and what Ton has said...we are imo (assuming we keep everyone, a BIG IF I know) just a real top quality striker away from being a real decent team.tedbull wrote:He'll get time. I wouldn't expect to hear too many boos at Goodison (they'd be drowned out by the yawns anyway).
But it does make a mockery of those who criticised our style of football (many on this forum) and said that RM would bring more goals and fewer clean sheets. At present we are nowhere near as adventurous as last year.
However in our opening 4 games we have still (even with this slow football) created many chances, how many chances have we (well I) seen Kone, Jelavic and Mirallas squandered (particularly the first two).
We are also missing Gibson, the issue we have is that when we get the ball wide all we have in the box is the striker, because Barkley isnt that type of player and Felli is playing deeper, we are also hampered by the fact that Osman is anywhere near the starting XI - he has been absolute gash
Trouble we have is everyone is moving further away from us with their signings and I do include Liverpool in that as well as the obvious 5 (well not arsenal ) but teams like Saints, Norwich, Swansea have all spent on players that would improve our 1st team imo (Osvaldo, RVW, Bony) and are catching us, im actually really concerned (longer term) as this year I thought there would be some cash available and if there isnt this year then I cant see when there will be.
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Bunners wrote:Agree with this and what Ton has said...we are imo (assuming we keep everyone, a BIG IF I know) just a real top quality striker away from being a real decent team.tedbull wrote:He'll get time. I wouldn't expect to hear too many boos at Goodison (they'd be drowned out by the yawns anyway).
But it does make a mockery of those who criticised our style of football (many on this forum) and said that RM would bring more goals and fewer clean sheets. At present we are nowhere near as adventurous as last year.
However in our opening 4 games we have still (even with this slow football) created many chances, how many chances have we (well I) seen Kone, Jelavic and Mirallas squandered (particularly the first two).
We are also missing Gibson, the issue we have is that when we get the ball wide all we have in the box is the striker, because Barkley isnt that type of player and Felli is playing deeper, we are also hampered by the fact that Osman is anywhere near the starting XI - he has been absolute gash
Trouble we have is everyone is moving further away from us with their signings and I do include Liverpool in that as well as the obvious 5 (well not arsenal ) but teams like Saints, Norwich, Swansea have all spent on players that would improve our 1st team imo (Osvaldo, RVW, Bony) and are catching us, im actually really concerned (longer term) as this year I thought there would be some cash available and if there isnt this year then I cant see when there will be.
If Fellaini and Baines go to Man Utd for 40miilion, then that gives RM 24hrs to sign replacements.
I have a feeling that Wigan may be raided for James Mc.
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You can include Villa in that alsoBunners wrote:Trouble we have is everyone is moving further away from us with their signings and I do include Liverpool in that as well as the obvious 5 (well not arsenal ) but teams like Saints, Norwich, Swansea have all spent on players that would improve our 1st team imo (Osvaldo, RVW, Bony) and are catching us, im actually really concerned (longer term) as this year I thought there would be some cash available and if there isnt this year then I cant see when there will be.tedbull wrote:He'll get time. I wouldn't expect to hear too many boos at Goodison (they'd be drowned out by the yawns anyway).
But it does make a mockery of those who criticised our style of football (many on this forum) and said that RM would bring more goals and fewer clean sheets. At present we are nowhere near as adventurous as last year.
In fairness, at a risk of sounding like Achilies I'm really optimistic for us this season. We 100% deserved at least a point against Liverpool and were really quite unfortunate losing at The Bridge. Plenty of decent teams in the league this year, and once again the promoted teams look like they're capable of battling out points (see Cardiff yesterday). I think there is a top 5 this season, with Liverpool leading the chasing pack and strong favourites for 6th. It's going to be tight but I do fancy Everton for 7th.
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I agree Ton the fact youve held on to Benteke has been key.
If we do sell them both for anywhere near 40m then unless weve got a rabbit up our sleeve I think we could end up 12th or even lower, I dont think mccarthy is the buy we need, well i would like him alongside felli etc but not instead of.
If it does happen I think we need to go raid spurs (as bad as that is) I think Glyfi would be a good signing to play behind the striker... is Lennon going to get a look in.......and whilst it is believed liverpool are favs to sign moses on loan we too have enquired, would allow Mirallas to move up top, give him a go as the striker
If we do sell them both for anywhere near 40m then unless weve got a rabbit up our sleeve I think we could end up 12th or even lower, I dont think mccarthy is the buy we need, well i would like him alongside felli etc but not instead of.
If it does happen I think we need to go raid spurs (as bad as that is) I think Glyfi would be a good signing to play behind the striker... is Lennon going to get a look in.......and whilst it is believed liverpool are favs to sign moses on loan we too have enquired, would allow Mirallas to move up top, give him a go as the striker
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This is why the TW should close much earlier. Clubs like Everton need a load of contingency plans for losing players. The strangest I read was Bertrand from Chelsea if Baines goes to MU, which would lave Cole as their only LB?
I would have thought Moses would prefer to play for RM again?
Regarding the second tier: I am far more interested in Everton, Villa, Soton and Swansea than the top 6.
I would have thought Moses would prefer to play for RM again?
Regarding the second tier: I am far more interested in Everton, Villa, Soton and Swansea than the top 6.
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Spurs need a large squad for the Europa league games, so I can't see them letting any players leave on the cheap, especially with Levy being a ******* to deal with in terms of transfer negotiations.Bunners wrote:I agree Ton the fact youve held on to Benteke has been key.
If we do sell them both for anywhere near 40m then unless weve got a rabbit up our sleeve I think we could end up 12th or even lower, I dont think mccarthy is the buy we need, well i would like him alongside felli etc but not instead of.
If it does happen I think we need to go raid spurs (as bad as that is) I think Glyfi would be a good signing to play behind the striker... is Lennon going to get a look in.......and whilst it is believed liverpool are favs to sign moses on loan we too have enquired, would allow Mirallas to move up top, give him a go as the striker
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Agree in general except for the squandered chances. This isn't like the first few months of last year - we're creating very little that's clear cut. We've had more shots than our opposition but, with due respect to them, we haven't exactly played anyone top drawer. And we're being reduced to half chances and snapshots. Not much of a return for the 60% possession we're, ahem, enjoying.Bunners wrote:Agree with this and what Ton has said...we are imo (assuming we keep everyone, a BIG IF I know) just a real top quality striker away from being a real decent team.tedbull wrote:He'll get time. I wouldn't expect to hear too many boos at Goodison (they'd be drowned out by the yawns anyway).
But it does make a mockery of those who criticised our style of football (many on this forum) and said that RM would bring more goals and fewer clean sheets. At present we are nowhere near as adventurous as last year.
However in our opening 4 games we have still (even with this slow football) created many chances, how many chances have we (well I) seen Kone, Jelavic and Mirallas squandered (particularly the first two).
We are also missing Gibson, the issue we have is that when we get the ball wide all we have in the box is the striker, because Barkley isnt that type of player and Felli is playing deeper, we are also hampered by the fact that Osman is anywhere near the starting XI - he has been absolute gash
Trouble we have is everyone is moving further away from us with their signings and I do include Liverpool in that as well as the obvious 5 (well not arsenal ) but teams like Saints, Norwich, Swansea have all spent on players that would improve our 1st team imo (Osvaldo, RVW, Bony) and are catching us, im actually really concerned (longer term) as this year I thought there would be some cash available and if there isnt this year then I cant see when there will be.
Yes we miss Gibson (and have to suffer Osman), but in general it's just far too slow. How many times have we seen Mirrallas isolate a full back and run at him? He hasn't got a chance because by the time he gets it he's faced by a full back and a winger who have ambled back into position.
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Very much so. He's conservative in his transfers and selections but had us playing good tempo stuff. On average more of the ball than the opposition but could mix it up. He only played the backs to the wall stuff early on when he didn't have the players (and away to a handful of teams when he shit himself).TheTon wrote:Partly down to it being a misconception that Moyes is a dull, defensive coach?tedbull wrote:He'll get time. I wouldn't expect to hear too many boos at Goodison (they'd be drowned out by the yawns anyway).
But it does make a mockery of those who criticised our style of football (many on this forum) and said that RM would bring more goals and fewer clean sheets. At present we are nowhere near as adventurous as last year.
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I totally agree, but trying telling Bert!!tedbull wrote:Very much so. He's conservative in his transfers and selections but had us playing good tempo stuff. On average more of the ball than the opposition but could mix it up. He only played the backs to the wall stuff early on when he didn't have the players (and away to a handful of teams when he shit himself).TheTon wrote:Partly down to it being a misconception that Moyes is a dull, defensive coach?tedbull wrote:He'll get time. I wouldn't expect to hear too many boos at Goodison (they'd be drowned out by the yawns anyway).
But it does make a mockery of those who criticised our style of football (many on this forum) and said that RM would bring more goals and fewer clean sheets. At present we are nowhere near as adventurous as last year.
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I see where you're coming from and agree to an extent, yesterday I thought Pienaar, Coleman, and Mirallas were poor and Osman worse than usual (Kim mustve beaten him 10/15 times yesterday!) yet we still dominated (?)tedbull wrote:Agree in general except for the squandered chances. This isn't like the first few months of last year - we're creating very little that's clear cut. We've had more shots than our opposition but, with due respect to them, we haven't exactly played anyone top drawer. And we're being reduced to half chances and snapshots. Not much of a return for the 60% possession we're, ahem, enjoying.Bunners wrote:Agree with this and what Ton has said...we are imo (assuming we keep everyone, a BIG IF I know) just a real top quality striker away from being a real decent team.tedbull wrote:He'll get time. I wouldn't expect to hear too many boos at Goodison (they'd be drowned out by the yawns anyway).
But it does make a mockery of those who criticised our style of football (many on this forum) and said that RM would bring more goals and fewer clean sheets. At present we are nowhere near as adventurous as last year.
However in our opening 4 games we have still (even with this slow football) created many chances, how many chances have we (well I) seen Kone, Jelavic and Mirallas squandered (particularly the first two).
We are also missing Gibson, the issue we have is that when we get the ball wide all we have in the box is the striker, because Barkley isnt that type of player and Felli is playing deeper, we are also hampered by the fact that Osman is anywhere near the starting XI - he has been absolute gash
Trouble we have is everyone is moving further away from us with their signings and I do include Liverpool in that as well as the obvious 5 (well not arsenal ) but teams like Saints, Norwich, Swansea have all spent on players that would improve our 1st team imo (Osvaldo, RVW, Bony) and are catching us, im actually really concerned (longer term) as this year I thought there would be some cash available and if there isnt this year then I cant see when there will be.
Yes we miss Gibson (and have to suffer Osman), but in general it's just far too slow. How many times have we seen Mirrallas isolate a full back and run at him? He hasn't got a chance because by the time he gets it he's faced by a full back and a winger who have ambled back into position.
PS Kim does look like a proper footballer
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Could any of you lot give us a general opinion on the way Man Utd are playing?
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You know Moyes. You know his tactics.
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So as it stands Felli out for £27.5m and Vic out to WBA (yet to be confirmed)
Barry in (not confirmed if loan or perm)
Lukaku (Loan)
McCarthy £13m
prob paid £5m too much for McCarthy but recouped that with the Felli deal...
Am I happy....No becasue I actually fear thats another £14m that will disappear....it happens far too often .... our net spend is nothing, yet we never have any cash, I would love to audit the accounts..
Barry in (not confirmed if loan or perm)
Lukaku (Loan)
McCarthy £13m
prob paid £5m too much for McCarthy but recouped that with the Felli deal...
Am I happy....No becasue I actually fear thats another £14m that will disappear....it happens far too often .... our net spend is nothing, yet we never have any cash, I would love to audit the accounts..
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---------------- Howard --------------
Coleman - Jagielka - Distin - Baines
Mirallas - Gibson - McCarthy - Pienaar
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NICE!
Coleman - Jagielka - Distin - Baines
Mirallas - Gibson - McCarthy - Pienaar
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NICE!
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From4corners wrote:---------------- Howard --------------
Coleman - Jagielka - Distin - Baines
Mirallas - Gibson - McCarthy - Pienaar
^(Naismith '70)
---------------- Barkley --------------
---------------- Lukaku --------------
NICE!
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Re: Everton 2013/14 General Chat & Starting XI Thread
Nice business done in the end; keeping Baines like a 20 mill signing too. Where's Barry going to fit in? Barkley's place under threat or Gibson?
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Re: Everton 2013/14 General Chat & Starting XI Thread
Pretty sure it'll be Gibson, as both are deep lying midfielders. Being a Wigan fan, I believe you have really got a great player on your hands in McCarthy... And happy to know you guys managed to keep Baines!
You guys (also) think Martinez could line up like this?
----------------- Howard ---------------
------- Alcaraz - Jagielka - Distin -------
Coleman--------------------------Baines
-----------Gibson ----- McCarthy ----------
Mirallas -------------------------- Pienaar
----------------- Lukaku -----------------
haha touchémoonlightdribbler wrote:
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You guys (also) think Martinez could line up like this?
----------------- Howard ---------------
------- Alcaraz - Jagielka - Distin -------
Coleman--------------------------Baines
-----------Gibson ----- McCarthy ----------
Mirallas -------------------------- Pienaar
----------------- Lukaku -----------------
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Re: Everton 2013/14 General Chat & Starting XI Thread
WilBert wrote: Where's Barry going to fit in? Barkley's place under threat or Gibson?
Osman's hopefully!
I'd imagine Gibson or Barry sitting in front of the defence, with McCarthy and then Barkley more advanced, will be the most common look to the Everton midfield.
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