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murf wrote:Oh gawd.... Handmaid's Tale. Think I'll give up on this. Was an interesting story but morphed into misery porn going nowhere.

Talking of misery porn.... wish I hadn't started The Virtues. All well acted but god is it dull and slow. Watched 3 of 4 so will have to finish. Could probably have editted it down to 2 episodes just by cutting out the clips of Stephen Graham walking everywhere looking moody.
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Also got one left of the virtues and bang on not much time investment but it’s pretty poor tbh

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The Virtues is excellent TV. You need the slow paced parts, to counter the manic parts (his drunkenness, basically). Also his misery is surely leading up to a big reveal in the final episode.

Other characters also great - particularly Dinah.

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Killing Eve S2 not as good as S1 IMO - a bit too contrived and not as engaging as the first series.

Final episode of Chernobyl tonight. Can't wait - best TV I've seen this year.

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Magic wrote: 05 Jun 2019, 10:40
happyhoppy wrote: 05 Jun 2019, 09:09Finished Chernobyl last night - superb.
Yeah, really enjoyed that. Didn't think I would after the first episode, which wasn't so good, but it got better.
Yeah, great final episode, superbly interweaving the previously unseen build-up to the disaster with the tension of the trial, explaining it all in a way you don’t need to be a nuclear physicist to understand!

Roose Bolton popped up as prosecution lawyer... the Kremlin send their regards? :wink:

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murf wrote: 05 Jun 2019, 10:51 Oh gawd.... Handmaid's Tale. Think I'll give up on this. Was an interesting story but morphed into misery porn going nowhere.

Talking of misery porn.... wish I hadn't started The Virtues. All well acted but god is it dull and slow. Watched 3 of 4 so will have to finish. Could probably have editted it down to 2 episodes just by cutting out the clips of Stephen Graham walking everywhere looking moody.
Agree on Handmaid's - the scenario was just too depressing to watch. Also agree Virtues is too slow - the first episode was very good but it's slowed to walking pace now, literally as well as metaphorically. I didn't find the bedside scene between Joe and his sister very convincing either - it was over-indulgent. Then a builder walks over to Joe and starts crying, so the plot's gone from too slow to double-quick speed now!

Ps I haven't seen final episode yet ...

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Zimmerman wrote: 05 Jun 2019, 10:33 Quicksand was pretty good. Tiny bit like The Sinner... an obvious open and shut case that is slowly challenged and revealed.

Decent enough watch (only 6 episodes).

I’m most of the way through Undercover. Really enjoying it. Stylistically like the Bridge (very different in terms of plot). Again, decent enough watch and not an overly ridiculous plot.

Ozark S2. Pretty good too. Slightly implausible plot lines, but if you could handle them in S1 it’s more of the same, so worth watching.
Yeah Quicksand was decent enough viewing though after it had finished I was a bit underwhelmed.

Glad you’re liking Undercover at the mo👍 I’ve told a few mates about it and those that have watched it have loved it. It’s certainly one of the most enjoyable things I’ve watched on Netflix and it wouldn’t surprise me if it ended up being really popular on Netflix once word got round.

Absolutely loved Ozarks. A couple of slow episodes but all in all really good quality.

HANDMAIDS TALE SPOILER ALERT! I loved handmaids tale (and Elizabeth Moss😍) though I thought the ending was a bit pants and didn’t make much sense. Surely she would have escaped with her baby🤷🏽‍♂️ Though obviously I suppose they wanted to cash in with new series.

Going to watch Bordertown next to see if it’s any good. The Finnish detective series

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Black Mirror doesn’t disappoint, watched the first two. Thought provoking as usual and on topic.

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Started Undercover liking it so far!

Finished Black Mirror. Very well done as usual. Shame only 3.

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Not started watching Chernobyl yet.

Might skip this sanitised 'fake news' US propaganda rewrite of history and wait for the Russian series on the disaster that finally reveals the full story behind the CIA plot to undermine the Russian Atomic authorities.

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murf wrote: 07 Jun 2019, 21:38 Not started watching Chernobyl yet.

Might skip this sanitised 'fake news' US propaganda rewrite of history and wait for the Russian series on the disaster that finally reveals the full story behind the CIA plot to undermine the Russian Atomic authorities.
If the Americans wanted to nuke Russia in the ‘80s there were more straightforward ways to do so :wink:

Incidentally, Chernobyl writer Craig Mazin has a host of crap movies on his CV, such as Hangover and Scary Movie sequels... just shows there’s hope for everyone in that industry. His other claim to fame is telling a couple of showrunner friends called Benioff and Weiss to scrap the pilot episode of a series they were working on and completely re-shoot it, a decade or so ago. Apparently said series didn’t do too badly.

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Chernobyl now the highest rated show on IMDB

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thebillfella wrote: 07 Jun 2019, 22:56 Chernobyl now the highest rated show on IMDB
And they’ve been milking that fact for all it’s worth in recent Sky adverts, even if it’s not entirely undeserved...

Comparing a five-episode mini-series with multi-season epics is comparing apples with oranges in any case.

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I’ve watched two episodes.
It’s ok. It’s well made. It’s interesting.

No idea why there is so much love for it.
It’s definitely not the best show ever.

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Chernobyl was a disappointing series, no local accents/subtitles, came across as anti Soviet propaganda, I would have expected there would have been scenes of the Russians discussing Windscale and Three Mile Island in the show and how the British and Americans reacted to their problems, I file this show under Western propaganda and rate it overall as poor.

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'The Virtues' is very hard hitting with a disturbing subject matter, the guy behind it seems to come out with a lot of earthy, gritty stuff and seems to use the same actor for a lot of his things.

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How much did Riveria series cost to make ? [do they get props for nothing as advertising I wonder ? ….hmm], stunning scenery, cars, houses etc

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Well we finished the Virtues or rather endured it. Film length last episode split over two nights. Personally a fest.

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happyhoppy wrote:Well we finished the Virtues or rather endured it. Film length last episode split over two nights. Personally a Image fest.
Definitely distinctly average. File under more worthy than entertaining.

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murf wrote: 08 Jun 2019, 12:47
happyhoppy wrote:Well we finished the Virtues or rather endured it. Film length last episode split over two nights. Personally a Image fest.
Definitely distinctly average. File under more worthy than entertaining.
I think the story line was plausible and that it was well acted by the main actor, I think it will win awards from the more serious award winning bodies.

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trampie wrote: 08 Jun 2019, 10:32 Chernobyl was a disappointing series, no local accents/subtitles, came across as anti Soviet propaganda, I would have expected there would have been scenes of the Russians discussing Windscale and Three Mile Island in the show and how the British and Americans reacted to their problems, I file this show under Western propaganda and rate it overall as poor.
Why am I not surprised you had this view, comrade. :wink:

Not sure where the propoganda was unless you know something the rest of the free world doesn't? This was the worst nuclear accident ever - I fail to see the relevance of Windscale and Three Mile Island tbh?

While I don't think it's the best show of all time I thought it was excellent and certainly the best series I've seen this year.

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Killing Eve series 2 starts tonight, Jodie Comer is an absolutely brilliant actress.

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you know she's English?

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thebillfella wrote: 08 Jun 2019, 13:05
trampie wrote: 08 Jun 2019, 10:32 Chernobyl was a disappointing series, no local accents/subtitles, came across as anti Soviet propaganda, I would have expected there would have been scenes of the Russians discussing Windscale and Three Mile Island in the show and how the British and Americans reacted to their problems, I file this show under Western propaganda and rate it overall as poor.
Why am I not surprised you had this view, comrade. :wink:

Not sure where the propoganda was unless you know something the rest of the free world doesn't? This was the worst nuclear accident ever - I fail to see the relevance of Windscale and Three Mile Island tbh?

While I don't think it's the best show of all time I thought it was excellent and certainly the best series I've seen this year.
It was a HBO/SKY effort, The British and Americans had their own disasters [not to the same degree but there but for the grace of God and all that], the Russians would have been trying to control and contain the situation as well minimising panic and trying to show the World they were dealing with it, they would have been discussing how the Brits and Yanks dealt with their issues, its obvious, did the Brits and Yanks cover up a lot of details, did they evacuate, did they allow access to the press both local and foreign, who did they blame, yet we did not see that and it was a British/American product.
One reviewer talked about it being like a horror film and I can see the parallels as well, so they would have been better served by telling their British and American target audience that this could happen to you, that the horror you are watching could happen in your country and indeed did happen but not on the same scale, but they choose not to do that, why ?
They run with the line of the KGB trying to smooth things over, well the KGB would have been discussing what the American and British agents of the state did surely.

And what topped it off was the British accents, it was hard to take the actors seriously with such twangs.

As regards threatening to chuck the scientist out of the helicopter and then threating to shoot him on more than one occasion was nonsense in my book and told my wife that during the show, in the end they told him straight they weren't going to do that and they were going to let him go so why did the makers show episode after episode of threats, the nuclear industry/nuclear weapons industry is the most secretive in the World, what would the British have done.....hmm ?, perhaps the main British scientist would have committed suicide in highly unusual unlikely circumstances and im not thinking about the Welsh guy and the Iraq war im thinking about the Scottish guy and all his nuclear documents missing shot in the head a few times, gun found a long way away, how can you do that when they say it suicide and why wont the authorities realise police/medical records etc.
I digress, a main man going to see the miners as if and then the miners working in the nude, the woman scientist they admitted they made her up, the whole thing came across as anti Russian propaganda to me.

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Zimmerman wrote: 08 Jun 2019, 13:37 you know she's English?
She has my vote as the best actress in the World.

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trampie wrote:
Zimmerman wrote: 08 Jun 2019, 13:37 you know she's English?
She has my vote as the best actress in the World.
Really? Truly great playing that one character but, other than that, I only know her from forgettable, minor non-entity characters in a couple of things. So will hold judgement (and not just because her Dad works for Everton!).

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murf wrote: 08 Jun 2019, 15:16
trampie wrote:
Zimmerman wrote: 08 Jun 2019, 13:37 you know she's English?
She has my vote as the best actress in the World.
Really? Truly great playing that one character but, other than that, I only know her from forgettable, minor non-entity characters in a couple of things. So will hold judgement (and not just because her Dad works for Everton!).
'Thirteen' she was great in that, another fantastic performance.

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trampie wrote: 08 Jun 2019, 11:03 'The Virtues' is very hard hitting with a disturbing subject matter, the guy behind it seems to come out with a lot of earthy, gritty stuff and seems to use the same actor for a lot of his things.
Shane Meadows of This is England fame. Love his made of stone doc though mainly coz it’s about my favourite band of all time.

“Dead man’s shoes” though.......it’s overtaken “Scarface” as my best film ever. Totally blew me away when I watched it. Extremely grim but sensational film and well worth checking out if you haven’t seen it yet.

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trampie wrote: 08 Jun 2019, 15:24
murf wrote: 08 Jun 2019, 15:16
trampie wrote:
Zimmerman wrote: 08 Jun 2019, 13:37 you know she's English?
She has my vote as the best actress in the World.
Really? Truly great playing that one character but, other than that, I only know her from forgettable, minor non-entity characters in a couple of things. So will hold judgement (and not just because her Dad works for Everton!).
'Thirteen' she was great in that, another fantastic performance.
On checking she was up for an Academy Award for Thirteen, she would have been about 22 years old at the time, they gave it to Sarah Lancashire another good actress that year, they don't often give awards to very young performers, Comer then won that particular award for killing Eve having only just turned 24.

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As for “Chernobyl” I watched 1st 15 mins of it and can’t see what all the fuss is about. I thought it was pretty ordinary what I watched and was a bit surprised when I started to hear how great is supposedly is. As Trampie says the lack of Russian dialogue was off putting. Reminded me of that Tom Cruise film about a decade ago about the German officer who tried to blow up Hitler (Valkryie🤔) and it was all in American accent which totally spoiled it for me. Though perhaps I should carry on watching incase it does end up worthy of the praise.

Or it might be another Luther which IMO I thought was total pants the 2 or 3 episodes I watched (even though everyone raves about it). The bit when Luther straight away works out the women was guilty of multiple murders simply coz when he yawned in the interview room, she didn’t yawn back, which he somehow deciphered that she has no empathy🤔🤷🏽‍♂️ Then in 2nd episode when he turns up to the mass murderer ex forces bloke at the block of flats alone with no weapons, knowing the man was carrying fire arms🙄 and he somehow worked out woman put gun inside dead dog that got turned into ashes🙄 gave up after then
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