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Or GammonBox as it’s been labelled… anyway, off to a good start, with advertisers pulling the plug because they somehow didn’t realise they were signing up for Fox UK, and opening day calls from Mikes Hunt and Oxlong…
https://www.indy100.com/news/gb-news-ch ... g-b1866803
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While I disagree with his politics I quite liked Andrew Neil and the Politics Show - thought he has some journalistic integrity ... but apparently not.
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Not sure what is worse, the thought of a right wing news channel or advertisers pretending to boycott it because they are scared of left wing bullies.
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I'll try to get round to watching it before I pass judgement on it properly
from what I've heard so far it seems more like opinion rather than news. The snippets I've seen feel like the sort of biased, loose-with-the-facts opinion pieces that you get in the Sun, Guardian and Mail than actual factual balanced news stories.
they do have a few fairly respectable people on, although in contrast they also have Dan Wooton - how long before they get Clarkson, Morgan and Hopkins on board?
My main issue is that it seems to be set up to be confrontational and divisive at a time when we could really do with trying to bring the country together. I do read the Sun, Mail, Guardian, BBC and many things in between. I take them all with a bit of skepticism and make my own mind up. The biggest worry is the people who take this sort of stuff as gospel as it just confirms their own view (just the same as the people who lap up the Guardians opinion pieces without question).
I bet Dot's got it on 24 hours a day in every room in the house
from what I've heard so far it seems more like opinion rather than news. The snippets I've seen feel like the sort of biased, loose-with-the-facts opinion pieces that you get in the Sun, Guardian and Mail than actual factual balanced news stories.
they do have a few fairly respectable people on, although in contrast they also have Dan Wooton - how long before they get Clarkson, Morgan and Hopkins on board?
My main issue is that it seems to be set up to be confrontational and divisive at a time when we could really do with trying to bring the country together. I do read the Sun, Mail, Guardian, BBC and many things in between. I take them all with a bit of skepticism and make my own mind up. The biggest worry is the people who take this sort of stuff as gospel as it just confirms their own view (just the same as the people who lap up the Guardians opinion pieces without question).
I bet Dot's got it on 24 hours a day in every room in the house
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Piers Morgan is pro-lockdown and Clarkson is anti-Brexit, so they might not pass the interviews…
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I thought it was mainly set up to be 'anti woke', ie to cancel the people that they say are trying to cancel them. All a bit of an ever decreasing circle really.
one observation is that I do see a lot of people that claim that they're suffering from cancel culture and can't express their views, but they do generally seem to be on the TV and in the news a lot. They're very loud for people that have been silenced. You know I think that possibly they haven't really been silenced at all...
one observation is that I do see a lot of people that claim that they're suffering from cancel culture and can't express their views, but they do generally seem to be on the TV and in the news a lot. They're very loud for people that have been silenced. You know I think that possibly they haven't really been silenced at all...
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The set is shite. It's really dark ie almost black....
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They appear to be plagued with production issues. Some of these are quite amusing. It also doesn't help that they have hired lots of 'names' instead of professional presenters. The Michelle Dewberry stuff is quite painful to watch.
https://twitter.com/GBNewsFails
This stupid boycott will give them some much needed publicity, but, mostly, they appear to be their own worst enemy. Really surprised at Andrew Neill. Both for taking this turn 'journalism'-wise, and for doing it all on such a shoestring.
https://twitter.com/GBNewsFails
This stupid boycott will give them some much needed publicity, but, mostly, they appear to be their own worst enemy. Really surprised at Andrew Neill. Both for taking this turn 'journalism'-wise, and for doing it all on such a shoestring.
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Do they actually have a market? I've obviously not done any market research here and I'm generalising massively but....
Anyone with an open mind wouldn't want the same political bias thrown at them all day. That sort of thing (of any political leaning) only appeals to those who like their prejudices reinforced.
Wouldn't the sort of people who want 24 news be more left leaning? Maybe champagne socialist types? On the other side of the political spectrum I can't imagine the more broadsheet reading, serious right of centre people who may watch politics being interested in something lowbrow and magasiney whereas white van man wouldn't want to waste his life watching a 24 hour news channel.
Surely politics is all about soundbites these days previsely because so few follow anything in depth.
This will either crash and burn or prove me wrong. I'll bet on the former.
Anyone with an open mind wouldn't want the same political bias thrown at them all day. That sort of thing (of any political leaning) only appeals to those who like their prejudices reinforced.
Wouldn't the sort of people who want 24 news be more left leaning? Maybe champagne socialist types? On the other side of the political spectrum I can't imagine the more broadsheet reading, serious right of centre people who may watch politics being interested in something lowbrow and magasiney whereas white van man wouldn't want to waste his life watching a 24 hour news channel.
Surely politics is all about soundbites these days previsely because so few follow anything in depth.
This will either crash and burn or prove me wrong. I'll bet on the former.
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Yeah, it's all Harry & Meghan, Freedom Day, culture war fluff. And of course some anti-vax thrown in for good measure. It's the Telegraph 'opinion' pieces as opposed to the Telegraph journalism. Just another echo chamber the likes of which is already on Twitter. I really don't know what has happened to Andrew Neill.
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I guess they will get more publicity from social media, rather than from their target audience actually sitting and watching it all day. They’re probably hoping for plenty of donations from those who fund the right-wing print/online media that has ensured we’ve elected nobody to the left of Blair in half a century.
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Left of Blair?
Cameron? May? Clegg?
Cameron? May? Clegg?
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I did listen to a few minutes and they got onto Wokes so I turned it over as they are irrelevant to any serious news channel.
I'm surprised McCoy went there, but then he did used to be at Sky, but then threatened to punch Kay Burley, which is totally understandable?
I'm surprised McCoy went there, but then he did used to be at Sky, but then threatened to punch Kay Burley, which is totally understandable?
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Quite a bit of pathetic virtual signalling from some companies who have decided to pull their adverts because this channel doesn't meet the "appropiate" agenda:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/20 ... declaring/
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/20 ... declaring/
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I wouldn’t advertise my service/product on a channel pushing conspiracy theories, would you?
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bluenosey wrote: ↑17 Jun 2021, 20:03 Quite a bit of pathetic virtual signalling from some companies who have decided to pull their adverts because this channel doesn't meet the "appropiate" agenda:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/20 ... declaring/
Using the word "woke" non-ironically is the hallmark of quality jourmalism.Headline: The GB News boycott is a turning point: business must end its woke campaigning or it may not survive the backlash
My secret hope is that all companies decide to cease advertising on every platform
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don't buy their products thenbluenosey wrote: ↑17 Jun 2021, 20:03 Quite a bit of pathetic virtual signalling from some companies who have decided to pull their adverts because this channel doesn't meet the "appropiate" agenda:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/20 ... declaring/
Ultimately the market will decide if its the right move, not an opinion piece writer in the Telegraph. I think its just a bit of poor judgement from a few marketing execs rather than multi billion dollar turnover global corporations suddenly turning into communists and wanting to overthrow capitalism (thats a comment about the link Bluey, not what you said)
whats happened to the Telegraph these days? Whether you agree with the sentiment in that 'article' or not thats an appalling piece of writing. I know it's Opinion rather then Journalism but I thought the Telegraph was better than that
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Telegraph jumped the shark a few years ago. This is worth a read. ..unc.si. wrote:don't buy their products thenbluenosey wrote: ↑17 Jun 2021, 20:03 Quite a bit of pathetic virtual signalling from some companies who have decided to pull their adverts because this channel doesn't meet the "appropiate" agenda:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/20 ... declaring/
Ultimately the market will decide if its the right move, not an opinion piece writer in the Telegraph. I think its just a bit of poor judgement from a few marketing execs rather than multi billion dollar turnover global corporations suddenly turning into communists and wanting to overthrow capitalism (thats a comment about the link Bluey, not what you said)
whats happened to the Telegraph these days? Whether you agree with the sentiment in that 'article' or not thats an appalling piece of writing. I know it's Opinion rather then Journalism but I thought the Telegraph was better than that
https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/opende ... telegraph/
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I won't, not that it will make a great deal of difference and I'll leave these companies to tap into their far left base of consumers, they will certainly have plenty of wealth to keep the products going, I supposeunc.si. wrote: ↑17 Jun 2021, 21:03don't buy their products thenbluenosey wrote: ↑17 Jun 2021, 20:03 Quite a bit of pathetic virtual signalling from some companies who have decided to pull their adverts because this channel doesn't meet the "appropiate" agenda:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/20 ... declaring/
Ultimately the market will decide if its the right move, not an opinion piece writer in the Telegraph. I think its just a bit of poor judgement from a few marketing execs rather than multi billion dollar turnover global corporations suddenly turning into communists and wanting to overthrow capitalism (thats a comment about the link Bluey, not what you said)
whats happened to the Telegraph these days? Whether you agree with the sentiment in that 'article' or not thats an appalling piece of writing. I know it's Opinion rather then Journalism but I thought the Telegraph was better than that
I thought it was an excellent article BTW, so disagree there.
PS I still haven't watched this channel but inclined to tune in now, especially as some small but very vocal sections of society have kicked up such a fuss over it.
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I turned over when they mentioned wokes.....
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https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/15321907/ ... rew-loose/
ALL week, various mad people have been bouncing around on social media saying that GB News – a new, non-woke TV station, in the style of Talk Radio – is the personification of evil.
So I tuned in on Thursday morning, half expecting to find its founder and main man, Andrew Neil, with a Hitler moustache, shoutily urging his viewers to build a Reich that: “Would last for a thousand years.”
Instead, there was a couple, who looked like librarians, hosting a gentle debate on people who make restaurant bookings and then don’t turn up.
There was then a weather report, followed by a plea from the World Wide Fund for Nature to be nice to pandas.
I’ve seen more evil in a seaside tea shop.
This doesn’t seem to have been noticed by the social media warriors though, who stopped tweeting about the glories of Corbyn for five minutes to target all the companies who were advertising on GB News.
The professional stirrers, who hate Israel and Tories and white people and history, said they would no longer buy products from businesses that supported the station’s panda appeals or “toxic propaganda”.
and so on....
Summed up perfectly
ALL week, various mad people have been bouncing around on social media saying that GB News – a new, non-woke TV station, in the style of Talk Radio – is the personification of evil.
So I tuned in on Thursday morning, half expecting to find its founder and main man, Andrew Neil, with a Hitler moustache, shoutily urging his viewers to build a Reich that: “Would last for a thousand years.”
Instead, there was a couple, who looked like librarians, hosting a gentle debate on people who make restaurant bookings and then don’t turn up.
There was then a weather report, followed by a plea from the World Wide Fund for Nature to be nice to pandas.
I’ve seen more evil in a seaside tea shop.
This doesn’t seem to have been noticed by the social media warriors though, who stopped tweeting about the glories of Corbyn for five minutes to target all the companies who were advertising on GB News.
The professional stirrers, who hate Israel and Tories and white people and history, said they would no longer buy products from businesses that supported the station’s panda appeals or “toxic propaganda”.
and so on....
Summed up perfectly
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Well I think that its a spectacular misjudgement for a company to boycott advertising on a platform because of what they might stand for when its only been launched for a few days. However, I think that boycotting their products because they've boycotted advertising on GB news is just as bad as boycotting their products because they do advertise on it. A knee jerk politicised decision. I can just imagine auntie.si's response if I told her that we couldn't buy an Ikea wardrobe because they boycotted advertising on a particular news channelbluenosey wrote: ↑19 Jun 2021, 10:24I won't, not that it will make a great deal of difference and I'll leave these companies to tap into their far left base of consumers, they will certainly have plenty of wealth to keep the products going, I supposeunc.si. wrote: ↑17 Jun 2021, 21:03don't buy their products thenbluenosey wrote: ↑17 Jun 2021, 20:03 Quite a bit of pathetic virtual signalling from some companies who have decided to pull their adverts because this channel doesn't meet the "appropiate" agenda:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/20 ... declaring/
Ultimately the market will decide if its the right move, not an opinion piece writer in the Telegraph. I think its just a bit of poor judgement from a few marketing execs rather than multi billion dollar turnover global corporations suddenly turning into communists and wanting to overthrow capitalism (thats a comment about the link Bluey, not what you said)
whats happened to the Telegraph these days? Whether you agree with the sentiment in that 'article' or not thats an appalling piece of writing. I know it's Opinion rather then Journalism but I thought the Telegraph was better than that
I thought it was an excellent article BTW, so disagree there.
PS I still haven't watched this channel but inclined to tune in now, especially as some small but very vocal sections of society have kicked up such a fuss over it.
If GB news is successful and attracts the right demographic they'll start advertising there again. Global corporates don't care about left vs right, they only care about who sees the ads and whether its likely to increase revenues or not. The boycott of GB news so soon was a bad corporate decision. I can see IKEA's CMO trawling the job ad's very soon.
I agree with your last point, ie effectively the fuss made about GB news and the ad boycotts is great free advertising for them. Its the Frankie Goes to Hollywood effect
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Companies aren't boycotting advertising on GB news "because of what they might stand for". They are doing it because some people will criticise them for advertising on TV News for what those people claim it stands for. Just a PR exercise that risks a negative PR backlash from the opposite side.
All rather a pathetic indictment of the modern world that belongs on the "modern life is rubbish" thread.
All rather a pathetic indictment of the modern world that belongs on the "modern life is rubbish" thread.
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