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Line of Duty (with potential spoilers)

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Well I can't see a thread on here but found last night's climax pretty mesmerising and poor old Ted was given a right grilliing.

Gripping stuff and I won't mention what happened in case any of you out in the FISOphere haven't watched it yet.

Trying to watch it and GoT at the same time and trying to second guess/remember in both has been pretty exhausting !

At least that's a break from AC-12, OCG's and "bent coppers" for now :)
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Yeah, Line of Thrones, Game of Duty... plenty to keep up with :wink:

Only got into this last series - while I usually start shows from the beginning, the series are largely self-contained storylines and you get to understand the references to what went before (“Dot” etc.) Still think I must go back and box-set the first three at some point though.

Not quite sure if everything was explained re. Hastings going off piste in the OCG/Corbett case, but guess there might be some threads to carry over to next series.

What have the BBC got next to fill the slot? Surely Peaky Blinders must be back soon?

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I missed one and two but continual references to characters in those series - the whole "H" thing !

PBs should be back soon for series 5. Again, not sure how far they can take this - up to WW2 ? I'd imagine Tommy, Arthur or Polly have got die ? Roight ? 8-)

Anyway, the acting was excellent on LoD. Stephen Graham is always quality and again, the main three (Dunbar, Compson and McLure) are first class too. That woman that plays the Carmichael - she was awesome - wow, played that part so well !

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Thought last night's episode was a little too much interview based with not much 'action'. Very intense though.

There was one issue with last night's plot reveal that I can't go into without a spoiler. Also didn't like the Dot/H twist they mentioned at the end (no spoiler). Didn't ring at all true but sets up S6 I guess.

All in all great stuff though. Think I got into it around Series 3 but had to catch up the rest as soon as I got into it.

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So this wasn't the last series? I've been trying to get my head around the ending thinking it was finishing a bit in mid air.

That's a relief. :)

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murf wrote: 06 May 2019, 11:04 There was one issue with last night's plot reveal that I can't go into without a spoiler. Also didn't like the Dot/H twist they mentioned at the end (no spoiler). Didn't ring at all true but sets up S6 I guess.
Its very considerate of you to not go into spoilers, though I cant quite imagine what sort of person who didnt want spoilers would be doing going into a "Line of Duty" thread after the final episode expecting there to be no spoilers.... :)

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Back in 2014 when I recommended Line of Duty on fiso, I wondered why it was only being watched by 2.2 million people while millions more watched total crap. At least the rather "slow on the uptake" British public is finally realising that its a top programme with over 13 million watching the last episode.

Mind you we seem to be a pretty thick nation with many on social media complaining that they still don't know who H is. :shock: OK if you are so minded you can complain about a series being dominated by a red herring, although personally, I've no beef with any red herring as long as it's credible.

Anyone going to open a book on who the fourth key "bent copper" is? :wink:

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The boss woman perhaps? Hastings still isn’t totally in the clear... Steve or Kate would be a cruel twist, but they’re surely not high enough in the ranks to be that influential.

Regarding the viewing figures... the box-set culture that has really taken off in recent years has given quality BBC series a profile boost, they’re getting talked about in the same breath as American ones. Also many who watched Bodyguard would have discovered LoD at that point. The “promotion” to BBC1 still seems to help, even in this on-demand era...

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Yeh, my money is on the Detective Chief Constable woman being at the top of the bent copper network. Hastings still isn't totally in the clear though.

To provide a twist of GoT proportions it would be good to find out Arnott is the final member!

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Can the thread title be similar to the GoT one i.e. with spoilers from last aired episode? That's the main thing to discuss today surely.

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Darbyand wrote: 06 May 2019, 13:28 Can the thread title be similar to the GoT one i.e. with spoilers from last aired episode? That's the main thing to discuss today surely.
I tweaked the title after reading BFM's post. Hope this is OK :)

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thebillfella wrote: 06 May 2019, 12:57 Yeh, my money is on the Detective Chief Constable woman being at the top of the bent copper network. Hastings still isn't totally in the clear though.

To provide a twist of GoT proportions it would be good to find out Arnott is the final member!
As far as I'm concerned Hastings is, and always has been completely in the clear. He obviously has money problems and the amount he lost on the Irish development, although large in terms of an honest cop's finances, wasn't huge. If he has ever been bent, he's also incredibly stupid not to have built up a good nest egg and he ain't stupid, ergo he ain't bent.

The female DCC is obviously a possibility. However, Sindwhanni has always seemed to have the right dodgy character for the baddie role. But we'd need to know his background prior to becoming the Police Commissioner before putting him in the frame. Perhaps he is simply a dodgy politician.

Let's hope that the Saturday night 9 pm slot on BBC4 has some better programmes soon. "Follow the Money" was good, but in recent months this slot has sometimes been a bit of a letdown. Personally I'm hoping that there is a new series of "Spiral" coming soon.

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As we are doing spoilers....

The bit I don't get is why the OCG (I didn't know what that stood for initially and now I'm using it) put an undercover copper in to infiltrate themselves!

The Dot / morse code thing was appalling and failed to suspend my disbelief.

Apparently there was also a cop car with an I in the number plate - not sure if that is a production mistake or a clue!

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I think they use “I” and “Q” number plates in fictional shows to avoid conflict with genuine ones, as they are not used in reality. Similarly there are phone number ranges reserved for TV and film use.

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murf wrote: 06 May 2019, 17:46 As we are doing spoilers....

The bit I don't get is why the OCG (I didn't know what that stood for initially and now I'm using it) put an undercover copper in to infiltrate themselves!

The Dot / morse code thing was appalling and failed to suspend my disbelief.
I assume Operation Pear Tree is something the real H was unable to stop so they let Corbett go in with a brief to link it all back to Hastings.

My question is why Lisa McQueen spilled her guts on all things OCG for prosecution immunity and is now doing anti crime work in the community.... but protected the identity of Ryan the new policeman.

The Morse code thing was rubbish.

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murf wrote: 06 May 2019, 17:46 As we are doing spoilers....

The bit I don't get is why the OCG (I didn't know what that stood for initially and now I'm using it) put an undercover copper in to infiltrate themselves!
They were worried Hastings was getting too close to the truth and wanted to set him up. They knew he had a history with John Corbett that Hastings himself wasn't aware of. Not only did they want Hastings out of the picture they also wanted it too make it appear as if he was the top man in the criminal organisation thus removing the spotlight from the real 'H' (who, as it happens, is one of four).

Striker wrote: 06 May 2019, 14:33Let's hope that the Saturday night 9 pm slot on BBC4 has some better programmes soon. "Follow the Money" was good, but in recent months this slot has sometimes been a bit of a letdown. Personally I'm hoping that there is a new series of "Spiral" coming soon.
Next up is Cardinal, the first two seasons of that were pretty good so I am hoping this third one is just as good. Hopefully the second season of The Sinner will becoming soon as well. I have already seen that and it was really good.

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Ted having a crisis of conscience about soft porn on his laptop on the exact day it implicated him on OCG messaging was kitten weak too.

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It wasn't until last night that I clicked that Ryan was the young lad from season one who tried to cut of Steve Arnott's fingers. Surely that has to play our in Season 6 when / if Steve comes across Ryan.

Also makes sense why he knew about the body in the freezer.

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Ashers wrote: 06 May 2019, 18:43 It wasn't until last night that I clicked that Ryan was the young lad from season one who tried to cut of Steve Arnott's fingers. Surely that has to play our in Season 6 when / if Steve comes across Ryan.

Also makes sense why he knew about the body in the freezer.
Hadn't twigged that, thanks
Darbyand wrote: 06 May 2019, 18:04My question is why Lisa McQueen spilled her guts on all things OCG for prosecution immunity and is now doing anti crime work in the community.... but protected the identity of Ryan the new policeman.
I presumed that was just because she could get away with it and liked Ryan.
Arch Stanton wrote: 06 May 2019, 18:05
murf wrote: 06 May 2019, 17:46The bit I don't get is why the OCG (I didn't know what that stood for initially and now I'm using it) put an undercover copper in to infiltrate themselves!
They were worried Hastings was getting too close to the truth and wanted to set him up. They knew he had a history with John Corbett that Hastings himself wasn't aware of. Not only did they want Hastings out of the picture they also wanted it too make it appear as if he was the top man in the criminal organisation thus removing the spotlight from the real 'H' (who, as it happens, is one of four).
That may not have played at and they surely wouldn't have taken that risk.

PS There is no 'H' is there? Just 4 Dots, one of whom is still around.

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@murf, I am not sure what you mean because of the way you have written it.

Here is my take on it. Gill Bigelow chose and fought for John Corbett to be the undercover officer. She told Corbett that Hastings was responsible for his mother's death and she is part of the organisation that is connected to that OCG (she gave them Hasting's hair) and she set up Hastings as H/dot. I think it was a calculated risk. Maybe they didn't put him in but knew about it from the outset and took full advantage of the situation to try and set up Ted.

H/dot, yeah, whatever. I said one of the four, the point being I was referring to the shadowy figure that Ted was being set up as whatever you want to refer to that persn as. Apologies if that caused some confusion.

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