New feature for FPL being released..draft league?
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Great for work leagues and such like, especially friends where you can make an event out of the draft too.
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Having killed OFL Classic, now they will take out OFL Auction
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Arhaych wrote:The drafts are usually ordered in a fair way.DAREEL wrote:Who knows mate. I'll give it a go. Not sure it's suitable for cash league. Isn't it the luck of the draw
e.g. 1-2-3-4-5-6-6-5-4-3-2-1.
I'm really excited about this - nice addition.
I'll certainly not knock it until I try it. Never really played them and when I have I tend to forget to pick my teams Do cash leagues work well with draft leagues? It may keep me alert if there is one
First pick gets Kun or kane so missing out on them could be deadly
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Yeah captains would ruin a draft league.
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If we're having a fiso league I'm in
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Same heremad dog wrote:If we're having a fiso league I'm in
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Draft leagues only work if there's a mechanism for lower placed teams to catch up. I haven't yet played one that has managed it.
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+1 would defo be in for a draft league, but you'll need multiple divisions. Leagues of 8-12 teams (15 man squads) tend to work best. It's a lot more hands on than FPL, at least the draft leagues I've played.
@bspittles - in the one I've played there's a waiver system for who gets first choice/chance to sign players not currently in anyone's squad. There are two traditional ways in which the waiver queue works. a) inverse order to the league table b) if you sign someone on waivers you go to the back of the queue.
The first option is definitely a mechanism for lower placed teams to catch up. If - for example - Ronaldo signs for United on deadline day and everyone in your league tries to sign him on waivers then the team at the top of the waiver list gets him, in example 'a' that'd be the team at the bottom of the league.
@bspittles - in the one I've played there's a waiver system for who gets first choice/chance to sign players not currently in anyone's squad. There are two traditional ways in which the waiver queue works. a) inverse order to the league table b) if you sign someone on waivers you go to the back of the queue.
The first option is definitely a mechanism for lower placed teams to catch up. If - for example - Ronaldo signs for United on deadline day and everyone in your league tries to sign him on waivers then the team at the top of the waiver list gets him, in example 'a' that'd be the team at the bottom of the league.
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I'm still struggling to get my head around how this draft actually works? Same scoring apparently.
Can someone explain in basic English as I'm having a moment here wondering what you have to do..
Edit: I have just read on fantasy football pundit and it makes so much more sense on there. So only 1 player (for example Aguero) can only be selected by 1 team in the league. The rest cannot choose him. So does that mean some people will have a team full of awful players because the top players will have all been chosen? I don't know how the order will be determined for player selection?
I take it since there's a maximum of 16 players per league that fiso will have quite a few leagues running!
Can someone explain in basic English as I'm having a moment here wondering what you have to do..
Edit: I have just read on fantasy football pundit and it makes so much more sense on there. So only 1 player (for example Aguero) can only be selected by 1 team in the league. The rest cannot choose him. So does that mean some people will have a team full of awful players because the top players will have all been chosen? I don't know how the order will be determined for player selection?
I take it since there's a maximum of 16 players per league that fiso will have quite a few leagues running!
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Yeah, as I understand it the draft pick order is reversed after each round of pick, so in theory that levels things out considerably. And yeah, lots of leagues, actually I do wonder if 16 is really too big. They do this for NFL a lot and there's 32 teams in that competition and there are more players on each franchise's roster. How many genuine must-have players are there in the PL, 10 maybe? Because that's going to be the kind of players that go in the first round of picks.
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of course I knew the sports meaning long ago from the "NBA Draft"Finisher1 wrote:Those who follow American sports leagues are very familiar with entry drafts.
yeah, I sometime saw that referred as "snakelike" or "serpentine" DraftArhaych wrote:The drafts are usually ordered in a fair way.DAREEL wrote:Who knows mate. I'll give it a go. Not sure it's suitable for cash league. Isn't it the luck of the draw
e.g. 1-2-3-4-5-6-6-5-4-3-2-1.
I'm really excited about this - nice addition.
there's also some ambiguity on different sites, as you can have two ways of picking
and some sites havfe Auction vs Draft, i.e. they say an Auction is not a Draft,
while others consider the Auction just a variant of a Draft (i.e. you can use a Snake Draft, or an Auction Draft)
https://draftfantasyfootball.co.uk/howToPlay#theDraft
https://draftfantasyfootball.co.uk/howT ... ctionDraft
in a Snake Draft, what you say only apply to one player per team, i.e. each team's first round pickswadd1er wrote:So does that mean some people will have a team full of awful players because the top players will have all been chosen?
I don't know how the order will be determined for player selection?
suppose you have 10 teams
here's the pick # each team will be allowed to call even if you're unlucky and get randomly assigned #10 in the draft order, you'll only miss out on the Top 9 best players, but you'll get to call 10th AND 11th
your other 14 players will not be "more awful" than the other 9 teams in the league
and the other 9 teams won't be "full of stars" either, they'll just have ONE star per team
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check my analysis in 1st page viewtopic.php?p=3060470#p3060470Tacalabala wrote:... And yeah, lots of leagues, actually I do wonder if 16 is really too big.
They do this for NFL a lot and there's 32 teams in that competition and there are more players on each franchise's roster.
How many genuine must-have players are there in the PL, 10 maybe?
Because that's going to be the kind of players that go in the first round of picks.
MoSe wrote:that's an interesting issue, common to any unique teams league (i.e. with Draft/Auction), not depending on a particular sitedino1980 wrote:You can have up to 16 teams in a league but my advice would be to cap it at ~10 players
as otherwise there simply won't be enough free agents and transfer dealings throughout the season to keep the league interesting
We'll have to see which customisations FPL will offer (and it's of general interest even if you play a draft league in one of the other sites)
I gathered a bit of data about Games appearance in 2016-17 FPL season
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... Vn31c95620
11 players played all 38 games, 14 played 37, and so on
mind:
- didn't report whether those apps were 90' or just 1', nor for instance in how many games 60'+ were played, or less
- didn't analyse the scores: a nearly always present player might well have just 2PPG
- didn't consider the chance of Transfers & Trades during the season
Example:
16 teams need to pick 15 players each, that's 240 players to be picked in a 16-teams draft league
they'd also need to field (starters or autosubs) 176 players during the season
should they pick in their XV the 240 most-present players in the season (again, ignoring minutes and scores)
they'd need to get down to pick those who played only 23 games in the season
to field XI each every GW, the 176 most-present ones range down to 28 games played
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we could rather superficially summarise those figures saying that, counting players presence only,
each team in a 16-league could draft
- an 11-starters core who play at least 28 games in the season
4 benchers to complete the roster, who play between 23 and 27 games
then find during the season
- 4 1st choice replacements who'll play between 18 and 23 games
4 more "opportunistic" replacements who'll play between 12 and 17 games
(key is to get those who become starters for a while in place of injureds, and /or hit form)
Of course I'm not questioning your advice at all, I trust it indeed, as it's based or recent experience,
while my own experiences of draft leagues date back to 1991 (pen-and-paper) and 2001, and were based on Serie A
I though it just interesting to review the underlying actual numbers
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[...snip: teams # also influences GW# in a H2H league and the option of Single vs Double Round Robin and/or allowing 2 runs in a FPL season ...]
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https://twitter.com/alanhenry115/status ... 0733176834
or if you can't actually start a Draft league at a later time
e.g. a 10-teams h2h league will run 18 gameweeks (double round robin), you might want to start a new one for a second run in the 2nd half of the season...
in FPL you can JOIN at anytime, and you can start a private league anytime (be it Classic or H2H)
will this be allowed in Draft FPL too?
say, I put together 10 friends in October and we want to start a Draft League at that time?
of course we'd have the advantage of knowing two months of players performances and teams lineups, but why should that prevent a group of friends to start their FPL Draft League after the season started? all teams in a Draft League would be in the same position anyway...
I wonder whether there's an implicit "IF you want to start a league running the whole season"set a date for your league's draft before 11 Aug 2017
or if you can't actually start a Draft league at a later time
e.g. a 10-teams h2h league will run 18 gameweeks (double round robin), you might want to start a new one for a second run in the 2nd half of the season...
in FPL you can JOIN at anytime, and you can start a private league anytime (be it Classic or H2H)
will this be allowed in Draft FPL too?
say, I put together 10 friends in October and we want to start a Draft League at that time?
of course we'd have the advantage of knowing two months of players performances and teams lineups, but why should that prevent a group of friends to start their FPL Draft League after the season started? all teams in a Draft League would be in the same position anyway...
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You need two things - auction draft and category scoring system instead of points scoring system. This way everyone is equal in the draft, and if you draft poorly you can do some trades to punt a few categories.bspittles wrote:Draft leagues only work if there's a mechanism for lower placed teams to catch up. I haven't yet played one that has managed it.
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I'd be intrested toomad dog wrote:If we're having a fiso league I'm in
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I'd love to have a crack at this
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That's a key merit of our TFF Four Full Draft Game. Look out for season six on Fiso in mid August as the first draft takes place in the first week of Septenber. This avoids managers having players transferred out of the Premier League in late August and the potential unfairness of who gets the big stars joining the Premier League in late August.bspittles wrote:Draft leagues only work if there's a mechanism for lower placed teams to catch up. I haven't yet played one that has managed it.
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On the premier league app saying fpl draft will start week commencing 17th july
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Plenty of people saying the normal game will start on the 10th
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Yeah that's what it's saying on the app normal game on the 10th draft on the 17thswadd1er wrote:Plenty of people saying the normal game will start on the 10th
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Not me. Too much luck in FPL. Player roles are flexible and ill defined, unlike most American sports (where draft leagues are popular). Add in the Winter transfer window and it just reeks of a flip of the coin.DAREEL wrote:http://www.101greatgoals.com/news/fanta ... -20172018/
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Unfortunately a snake draft doesn't mean it's fair. Player values for elite decrease exceptionally quickly (near exponential curve) meaning the top picks are by far the most valuable.Arhaych wrote:The drafts are usually ordered in a fair way.DAREEL wrote:Who knows mate. I'll give it a go. Not sure it's suitable for cash league. Isn't it the luck of the draw
e.g. 1-2-3-4-5-6-6-5-4-3-2-1.
I'm really excited about this - nice addition.
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And NFL leagues rarely get larger than 12 (I played a 14 once and it was awful). Plus you get more transactions and much, much more detailed injury information allowing you to adjust lineups before injured players get locked into a starting lineup.Tacalabala wrote:Yeah, as I understand it the draft pick order is reversed after each round of pick, so in theory that levels things out considerably. And yeah, lots of leagues, actually I do wonder if 16 is really too big. They do this for NFL a lot and there's 32 teams in that competition and there are more players on each franchise's roster. How many genuine must-have players are there in the PL, 10 maybe? Because that's going to be the kind of players that go in the first round of picks.
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Never played one properly but that's how I see it. A flip of a coin and random luck. I mean what you going to do with the poorer players your forced into and no one wants . Extra training and make them better ? . Can see the draft being fun, more so than the season especially if your first pick gets injured. hard to catch up if you start bad . I'll give it a shot thoughSuperGrover wrote:Not me. Too much luck in FPL. Player roles are flexible and ill defined, unlike most American sports (where draft leagues are popular). Add in the Winter transfer window and it just reeks of a flip of the coin.DAREEL wrote:http://www.101greatgoals.com/news/fanta ... -20172018/
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S_sutton87 wrote:Yeah that's what it's saying on the app normal game on the 10th draft on the 17thswadd1er wrote:Plenty of people saying the normal game will start on the 10th
viewtopic.php?p=3061675#p3061675S_sutton87 wrote:On the premier league app saying fpl draft will start week commencing 17th july
Stemania wrote:Here's the info from previous years:
FPL-Opening-Date (opening time) PL-Start-Date
Tue 19 July 2016 (around 10:15 UK time) 13th August 25d
Thu 9 July 2015 (around 11:30 UK time) 8th August 30d
Wed 16 July 2014 (around 16:00 UK time) 16 August 31d
Mon 15 July 2013 (around 14:00 UK time) 17 August 33d
Thu 19 July 2012 (around 18:00 UK time) 18 August 30d
Wed 20 July 2011 (around 22:30 UK time) 13 August 24d
Mon 12 July 2010 (around 13:35 UK time) 14 August 33d
Tue 7 July 2009 (around 15:45 UK time) 15 August 39d
Fri 4 July 2008 (around 16:00 UK time) 16 August 43d
Fri 6 July 2007 (around 9:35 UK time) 11 August 36d
Mon 10 July 2006 (around 1:00 UK time) 19 August 40d
The PL start date this season is 12th August and FPL usually opens about a month in advance, give or take.
DAREEL wrote:Week commencing 10th July. I can't see it being on a Monday or Friday going by the past years
ON the 10th is one thing, in the week commencing on the 10th is another thingDAREEL wrote:That's what I'm expecting yes.swadd1er wrote:11/12/13th July then?
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I've had a look at some of the NFL fantasy forums, and basically in lieu of sidegames, they normally have a 'League Finders' board to fill vacancies. I think that is a good route to go down here, so I suppose you have that and leave it up to people to promote or join leagues as they see fit, a bit like a marketplace. Seems a bit pointless to have an official FISO league when only max 16 can join, and we should aim to be the place on the web to help league find players.
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So the last 11 years have seen 3 x Monday and 2 x Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday and Friday. My money's on this Tuesday
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There's more info on the draft league format posted here:
https://www.premierleague.com/news/427772?sf96151543
Looks like 8 team leagues and no captains or vice captains (which is very good news).
Lowest rank teams get their waivers processed first too, which would be helpful in January to keep lower ranked sides in it.
Looks pretty good to me, although I'll most likely play draft leagues against friends for fun and leave my FPL team in a global league only.
https://www.premierleague.com/news/427772?sf96151543
Looks like 8 team leagues and no captains or vice captains (which is very good news).
Lowest rank teams get their waivers processed first too, which would be helpful in January to keep lower ranked sides in it.
Looks pretty good to me, although I'll most likely play draft leagues against friends for fun and leave my FPL team in a global league only.
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