Is Andy Murray now the Worlds number 1....

[Maldini]

Chuffed for the lad. Worked his socks off and getting Lendl back on board has made all the difference.

[Judio]

MURRAY Points

http://www.atpworldtour.com/en/players/ ... am=singles

DJOKOVIC Points

http://www.atpworldtour.com/en/players/ ... am=singles

[murf]

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I think they need to rejig their points systems to give more weight to the grand slams and apply less bias to their own (surprise, surprise) ATP titles. To get 1500 for winning the end of season thing and 1000 for other ATP titles yet only get 1200 for being a grand slam finalist is plainly wrong. Wimbledon (2000 pts for a win) is clearly more than 33% more important than Wembley (1500)

[forestfan]

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I think they need to rejig their points systems to give more weight to the grand slams and apply less bias to their own (surprise, surprise) ATP titles. To get 1500 for winning the end of season thing and 1000 for other ATP titles yet only get 1200 for being a grand slam finalist is plainly wrong. Wimbledon (2000 pts for a win) is clearly more than 33% more important than Wembley (1500)

I guess they have to incentivise players to compete in "lesser" tournaments, otherwise someone could be number 1 by only playing 4 tournaments in a year. If none of the world's best turn up for a particular event then there's nothing for them to market.

By "Wembley" I take it you mean the O2? It may not quite be a Grand Slam (only 3 sets for a start) but where else do you have to play 5 of the top 8 potentially to win it...

[Surprised]

Chuffed for the lad. Worked his socks off and getting Lendl back on board has made all the difference.

Lendl is key. If he keeps lendl he gets more success. Dumps Lendl then he won't get much more. Not sure how Lendl does it but he takes Murrays mental game from 2nd rate to top class standard

[murf]

By "Wembley" I take it you mean the O2?

Yep, all just that there London to me

[Judio]

Overall Points

Murray 12410
Djokovic 11780

Grand Slam Points

Murray 4760
Djokovic 5290

Masters Series Points

Murray 4650
Djokovic 5150

World Tour Finals

Murray 1500
Djokovic 1000

ATP 500 Level Points

Murray 1500
Djokovic 90

ATP 250 Level Points
Murray 0
Djokovic 250

[Judio]

Next weeks rankings

1 Djokovic 16,950
2 Murray 8,915
3 Federer 6,655
4 Nadal 5,405
5 Wawrinka 5,035
6 Nishikori 4,290
7 Thiem 3,105

Look at the Gap he had to close down after Roland Garros !!!!

[blahblah]

Yep, I seem to remember people saying that it would be impossible and Djokovic would be Number 1 for ages.....

Is there a total of points upto just after Paris and then after? Next season will be weird points wise as Novak defends loads of points, then Murray defends loads.

re the Points distribution: the Slams can not carry too many for QF and SF as there would be carnage lower down? However they could give a few more related to how well the person that you lost to does eg:

SF loser to Winner > SF who lost to Loser (So a 1, 2, 3, 4 ranking)

QF: S more points given to who lost to 1 than 2 than 3... (which gives a 1-> 8 Ranking)

Last 16 similarly....

So at least losing to a top player gives more points than losing to someone who rolls over in the next Round.

[Judio]

Is there a total of points upto just after Paris and then after? Next season will be weird points wise as Novak defends loads of points, then Murray defends loads.

Between 1 Jan and end of Roland Garros
Djokovic 7950
Murray 4450

Between start of Grass Court season to end of Year

Djokovic 3830
Murray 7960

Incredible change

[Judio]

Between 1 Jan and end of Roland Garros
Djokovic 7950
Murray 4450

Between 1 Jan and end of Miami (First 3 months )
Djokovic 4340
Murray 1290

[forestfan]

By "Wembley" I take it you mean the O2?

Yep, all just that there London to me

Big Dome, not Big Arch... pretty much at opposite corners

[paisleypark]

I suppose YES is the simple answer to the question posed in the thread title. How long he is there is debateable but I think he really deserves all the plaudits coming his way. Also his Brother Jamie - their parents must be unbelievably happy after all they put in during the early years.

[Judio]

By all accounts the father was pretty much put to one side

Mothers obsession with tennis and her two boys

Dad went elsewhere....

[murf]

....arise Sir Andy


(and Sir Mo, Lady Jess.... - doesn't seem right when they are still young and competing (/ recently were). Sirs and Ladies should be old farts)

[blahblah]

(and Sir Mo, Lady Jess.... - doesn't seem right when they are still young and competing (/ recently were). Sirs and Ladies should be old farts)

Yep, but they screwed this with some cricketers and then Brad the Clean....

[blahblah]

Between 1 Jan and end of Roland Garros
Djokovic 7950
Murray 4450

Between 1 Jan and end of Miami (First 3 months )
Djokovic 4340
Murray 1290

Out of the Aus Open already.....

[blahblah]

Followed by Murray

Evans 7-6, 2-6 against Tsonga.

[forestfan]

Open goal put firmly into row Z. He surely won't get a better chance to add this one to his collection. Every chance Wawrinka will move ahead of him in terms of Slam titles now, though a couple of other familiar names will fancy their chances of probably one last moment of glory...

Murray could have just about sealed the top ranking up until Wimbledon had he just had a decent run here. Looks like we will see the pack start to reel in the top two now, and perhaps a spell where it's wide open before the next superstar emerges.

[Ashers]

Federer must be happy knowing that he should now have a semi final vs Stan Warwrinka

[forestfan]

Federer must be happy knowing that he should now have a semi final vs Stan Warwrinka

Stan would be favourite to win it, he gets stronger as major tournaments go on and produces his best against the top players at the business end, if he gets there. Just doesn't negotiate the early rounds as consistently as the others normally do. Bookies make him and Raonic the favourites now - sure the neutrals want one last Federer-Nadal final though!

Nishikori will test the Swiss no.2 as well...

[blahblah]

Stan would be favourite to win it, he gets stronger as major tournaments go on and produces his best against the top players at the business end, if he gets there.

Good job that he does as I saw a bit of his 1st Round Match and he looked pants.

[Maldini]

My Raonic bet looking better by the day.

Can only see a Federer rolling back the years performance stopping him.

[forestfan]

Stan would be favourite to win it, he gets stronger as major tournaments go on and produces his best against the top players at the business end, if he gets there.

Good job that he does as I saw a bit of his 1st Round Match and he looked pants.

Well that seems to be the thing with him, vulnerable early on in tournaments, doesn't rack up the ranking points in lesser events, but thrives on big occasions, and when he produces his best it will beat anyone, even a focused Djokovic as we've seen before.

The potential Swiss derby will be an epic, not sure Federer's got a series of five-setters in his legs now though, having had one already against Nishikori.

[hancockjr]

Federer must be happy knowing that he should now have a semi final vs Stan Warwrinka

Stan would be favourite to win it, he gets stronger as major tournaments go on and produces his best against the top players at the business end, if he gets there. Just doesn't negotiate the early rounds as consistently as the others normally do. Bookies make him and Raonic the favourites now - sure the neutrals want one last Federer-Nadal final though!

Nishikori will test the Swiss no.2 as well...

Incorrect - Federer is favourite

[Maldini]

My Raonic bet looking better by the day.

Can only see a Federer rolling back the years performance stopping him.

Or Rafa.

[forestfan]

Federer must be happy knowing that he should now have a semi final vs Stan Warwrinka

Stan would be favourite to win it, he gets stronger as major tournaments go on and produces his best against the top players at the business end, if he gets there. Just doesn't negotiate the early rounds as consistently as the others normally do. Bookies make him and Raonic the favourites now - sure the neutrals want one last Federer-Nadal final though!

Nishikori will test the Swiss no.2 as well...

Incorrect - Federer is favourite

Well, not sure the bookies have that one right. If Federer's going to win it he surely has to do so in three sets.

One possibly last big clash of the two old masters would be great to see at this stage, but to be honest I'm getting a bit bored of waiting for the next new superstar in the men's game. The fourth man remaining, Dimitrov, was supposedly the next big thing a few years ago but then faded quite dramatically - a chance to make up for lost time here, but suspect the likes of him and Raonic will be the nearly men, the generation who didn't quite have enough to depose the old order even as the greats passed their peak.

[blahblah]

My Raonic bet looking better by the day.

Can only see a Federer rolling back the years performance stopping him.

Or Rafa.

Indeedy.

[hancockjr]

Federer must be happy knowing that he should now have a semi final vs Stan Warwrinka

Stan would be favourite to win it, he gets stronger as major tournaments go on and produces his best against the top players at the business end, if he gets there. Just doesn't negotiate the early rounds as consistently as the others normally do. Bookies make him and Raonic the favourites now - sure the neutrals want one last Federer-Nadal final though!

Nishikori will test the Swiss no.2 as well...

Incorrect - Federer is favourite

Well, not sure the bookies have that one right. If Federer's going to win it he surely has to do so in three sets.

One possibly last big clash of the two old masters would be great to see at this stage, but to be honest I'm getting a bit bored of waiting for the next new superstar in the men's game. The fourth man remaining, Dimitrov, was supposedly the next big thing a few years ago but then faded quite dramatically - a chance to make up for lost time here, but suspect the likes of him and Raonic will be the nearly men, the generation who didn't quite have enough to depose the old order even as the greats passed their peak.

Guess you're looking forward to a nice payday!

[Malrom]

Federer must be happy knowing that he should now have a semi final vs Stan Warwrinka

Stan would be favourite to win it, he gets stronger as major tournaments go on and produces his best against the top players at the business end, if he gets there. Just doesn't negotiate the early rounds as consistently as the others normally do. Bookies make him and Raonic the favourites now - sure the neutrals want one last Federer-Nadal final though!

Nishikori will test the Swiss no.2 as well...

Incorrect - Federer is favourite

Well, not sure the bookies have that one right. If Federer's going to win it he surely has to do so in three sets.

One possibly last big clash of the two old masters would be great to see at this stage, but to be honest I'm getting a bit bored of waiting for the next new superstar in the men's game. The fourth man remaining, Dimitrov, was supposedly the next big thing a few years ago but then faded quite dramatically - a chance to make up for lost time here, but suspect the likes of him and Raonic will be the nearly men, the generation who didn't quite have enough to depose the old order even as the greats passed their peak.

and he did it in five sets!!!

Still the best, Roger !!!