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Re: Is Andy Murray now the Worlds number 1....

Post by forestfan » 29 Jan 2017, 12:32

Well I didn't think we would ever see that again. That's one more bit of history to add to Federer's case as greatest ever... four and a half years after his last Grand Slam title, overcoming his greatest rival in another epic to return to the top.

So much more explosive than a Murray-Djokovic match which, to be honest, can be hard work to watch at times. Would be great to have a whole year of the four of them going at it quite evenly matched with one or two younger men pushing them as well.

Couldn't argue with Federer if he just walked away after this though, would be some way to sign off... don't think that's his way though, he will want at least one more crack at an eighth Wimbledon.

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Re: Is Andy Murray now the Worlds number 1....

Post by forestfan » 10 Jun 2017, 16:35

So, a brave effort from Murray after a poor run of form this year, but just ran out of steam against Wawrinka in a great match. Saves us all a few hours of watching his futile efforts to stop a revitalised Nadal claiming "La Decima" I guess (Stan does have half a chance though, his very best form probably beats anyone else's...)

Nadal's rout of Thiem shows how far away the next generation still are, and it may well be the one after that which eventually unseats the big five, as we now have to refer to them, despite the fact they're all over 30 now. Any of the five could end this year as number one.

What a sorry state the women's game is in though... the supposed next cab off the rank as world number 1 can't close out a final against an unseeded unknown. Nobody has any sort of consistency or star quality, Serena could probably win Wimbledon 6 months pregnant if she tried to!

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Re: Is Andy Murray now the Worlds number 1....

Post by Judio » 13 Jun 2017, 18:32

If Nadal gets 110 points more than Murray in the Grass Season

Then Murray will NOT be Number 1 week after Wimbledon

Ranking(52 week)
1 Murray 9890
2 Nadal 7285
3 Wawrinka 6175
4 Djokovic 5805
5 Federer 4945


Ranking (2017 year Only)

1 Nadal 6915
2 Federer 4045
3 Thiem 3165
4 Wawrinka 3140
5 Zverev A 2140
6 Djokovic 1975
7 Murray 1930

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Re: Is Andy Murray now the Worlds number 1....

Post by Judio » 13 Jun 2017, 18:35

So if Federer wins Stuttgart then Halle then Wimbledon in next month (2750 points)

And Nadal goes fishing for a month

Nadal will still lead the 2017 Points race

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Re: Is Andy Murray now the Worlds number 1....

Post by forestfan » 13 Jun 2017, 19:04

Is Nadal playing Queens (or one of the alternatives?) Obviously Murray's won it several times and is presumably defending the title again this year.

Federer usually plays the Swiss one that happens at the same time, and Djokovic I think tends to take a break before Wimbledon.

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Re: Is Andy Murray now the Worlds number 1....

Post by Judio » 13 Jun 2017, 19:51

Week 1
Stuttgart Federer

Week 2
Queens Murray Nadal Wawrinka
Halle Federer

Week 3
Boodles Exho Djokovic

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Re: Is Andy Murray now the Worlds number 1....

Post by Mo Bot » 13 Jun 2017, 20:37

I think I'm right in saying that Nadal has pretty much no points to defend for the next 3-4 months whereas Murray won almost everything this time last year so can only go backwards until the US Open?

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Re: Is Andy Murray now the Worlds number 1....

Post by forestfan » 13 Jun 2017, 20:50

Mo Bot wrote:I think I'm right in saying that Nadal has pretty much no points to defend for the next 3-4 months whereas Murray won almost everything this time last year so can only go backwards until the US Open?
Yeah, Murray has 3,100 to defend before the US Open (2000 from Wimbledon). Nadal as you say has the square root of sod all... not that much from the others in the top five either (1000 or so at most).

Murray can gain points at the US Open but he then has loads to drop in October/November when he was playing (and winning) every tournament open to him as he saw a chance to snatch the top ranking. So barring another run of form like that it's going to go sooner or later, he just needs to guard against dropping out of the top four.

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Re: Is Andy Murray now the Worlds number 1....

Post by Judio » 14 Jun 2017, 11:32

Judio wrote:If Nadal gets 110 points more than Murray in the Grass Season

Then Murray will NOT be Number 1 week after Wimbledon

Ranking(52 week)
1 Murray 9890
2 Nadal 7285
3 Wawrinka 6175
4 Djokovic 5805
5 Federer 4945


Ranking (2017 year Only)

1 Nadal 6915
2 Federer 4045
3 Thiem 3165
4 Wawrinka 3140
5 Zverev A 2140
6 Djokovic 1975
7 Murray 1930
Murray has (9890 minus 1930) points to defend before Xmas

Nadal has (7285 minus 6915) points to defend before Xmas

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Re: Is Andy Murray now the Worlds number 1....

Post by Judio » 14 Jun 2017, 11:32

And Nadal has withdrawn from Queens to rest on doctors advice

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Re: Is Andy Murray now the Worlds number 1....

Post by unc.si. » 14 Jun 2017, 12:16

Judio wrote:And Nadal has withdrawn from Queens to rest on doctors advice
Back in time for Wimbledon. Just needs some Preparation time.

Faire le Métier

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Re: Is Andy Murray now the Worlds number 1....

Post by forestfan » 14 Jun 2017, 19:10

Before long the big four will agree between them to only play one Slam each per year, as they get older and more fragile but still better than anyone else :lol:

I don't suppose Federer and Nadal are that bothered about world number 1 now, they probably have the view that if it happens then great, but they'd rather add to their tally of major titles, and that means targeting their efforts at the ones they have most chance of winning. Nadal's barely had any sort of run at Wimbledon for a number of years, not sure if he really believes he can win it or make an impact again. Not playing a grass tournament before it seems questionable preparation anyway...

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Re: Is Andy Murray now the Worlds number 1....

Post by Reddog1 » 10 Jul 2017, 23:04

Maybe nadal will bagsy clay if they all do choose one major :lol:

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Re: Is Andy Murray now the Worlds number 1....

Post by Judio » 11 Jul 2017, 09:17

Nadal failed to better Murrays result at Wimbledon

So Nadal cannot catch Murray as No 1 ( yet....)

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Re: Is Andy Murray now the Worlds number 1....

Post by hancockjr » 12 Jul 2017, 16:00

But Djokovic can (according to BBC)

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Re: Is Andy Murray now the Worlds number 1....

Post by forestfan » 12 Jul 2017, 19:46

hancockjr wrote:But Djokovic can (according to BBC)
Not any more...

Crap last four now, Fed will walk it if he stays upright. Starting to wonder how many of the big four we will see at the O2 this year though. Their workload and long term dominance of the top end of the rankings is starting to catch up with them all.

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Re: Is Andy Murray now the Worlds number 1....

Post by Magic » 16 Jul 2017, 08:47

forestfan wrote:
hancockjr wrote:But Djokovic can (according to BBC)
Crap last four now, Fed will walk it if he stays upright. Starting to wonder how many of the big four we will see at the O2 this year though. Their workload and long term dominance of the top end of the rankings is starting to catch up with them all.
Federer had to work hard to get past Berdych and Cillic will not be easy. he has had match point against federer at Wimbledon before and he blew him away in the US Open last year.

Really looking forward to the final today!

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Re: Is Andy Murray now the Worlds number 1....

Post by Judio » 26 Jul 2017, 15:06

This time in 2016
Roger Federer

Now it's Novak Djokovic's turn


http://www.skysports.com/tennis/news/12 ... st-of-2017

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Re: Is Andy Murray now the Worlds number 1....

Post by Judio » 11 Sep 2017, 09:20

The Race for the O 2

1 Nadal 9365
2 Federer 7505
3 Zverev A 4220
4 Thiem 3715
OUT Wawrinka 3150
5 Dimitrov 3105
6 Cilic 2995
7 Carreno Busta 2595
OUT Djokovic 2585
8 Querrey 2435

9 Anderson 2335
10 Murray 2290
11 Goffin 2080
12 Berdych 2005

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Re: Is Andy Murray now the Worlds number 1....

Post by forestfan » 16 Jul 2018, 19:04

Murray now ranked number 23... in Britain!

Djokovic's showing will offer him hope of returning to the top table though, different injury I know but still a long time out, and the game hasn't really moved on in their absence.

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Re: Is Andy Murray now the Worlds number 1....

Post by forestfan » 11 Jan 2019, 08:25

So, it’s all over, just about. Hoping for a Wimbledon farewell but the upcoming Aussie Open could well be his last appearance. An unfortunate way for it to end for him, but one of Britain’s truly great sportsmen. For a long time I thought that Grand Slam title would remain elusive, but he ended up with three of them in an incredibly tough era, perhaps up against the three greatest players of all time. Plus double Olympic gold and a Davis Cup.

We’ll get behind Kyle Edmund, Cameron Norrie and the next generation, but we may not see his like in terms of global standing for a British player for decades. Thanks for the memories, Andy...

As for tennis in a wider sense, Federer is 37, Nadal is increasingly fragile. Djokovic might sweep the board this year, even if he’s not as infallible as a few years ago. Or maybe it will be the long awaited year where the likes of Zverev step up in the longer format?

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Re: Is Andy Murray now the Worlds number 1....

Post by SUZYKINS » 11 Jan 2019, 09:22

forestfan wrote:
11 Jan 2019, 08:25
So, it’s all over
Phew might keep his fame craving mother off our screens :D

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Re: Is Andy Murray now the Worlds number 1....

Post by forestfan » 12 Jul 2019, 20:13

forestfan wrote:
11 Jan 2019, 08:25
Or maybe it will be the long awaited year where the likes of Zverev step up in the longer format?
Or maybe not...

Roger Federer is nearly thirty-eight years old. By all reasonable logic, if he’s playing on Centre Court on the final weekend, it should be in the invitational doubles playing trick shots from the umpire’s chair. And yet he can still produce this, on the biggest stage. Nadal and Djokovic may be a few years younger but even they are at an age where many of the greats had long since retired. Is there any doubt now that they are the three greatest male tennis players of all time? Would Sampras just look like a rich man’s John Isner in today’s game? Murray himself probably deserves a place in the all-time top ten for his efforts in competing with them over so many years. In other eras he’d have won eight or ten Slams.

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