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thebillfella wrote: 19 Jan 2020, 17:09
Dot wrote:
thebillfella wrote: 19 Jan 2020, 17:00
Dot wrote:McGuire needs to get a BIGGER EAD
We just need to stop playing zonal on corners. That was is Ole's fault not Maguire's.

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You need a bigger EAD in a duel with the best defender in Europe
It wasn't his man - he stepped in to lindelofs zone and whoever was supposed to be running with / blocking him. Have you ever played the game before dot?
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Darbyand wrote: 09 Jan 2020, 16:40 I'd have Bailly and Tuanzebe above Lindelof. He is slow and weak. The former will be found out in any high level game and the latter still an issue in England i.e. Deeney, Carroll etc.
Lindelof has been atrocious today. 0/10. Time to give Bailly/Tuanzebe a run. Might help Maguire with his iffy form. And as Bill says, this zonal marking added to ddg staying on his line is costing corner goals time and again.

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Go somewhere else will you dot - adults are talking here

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thebillfella wrote: 19 Jan 2020, 17:14 Go somewhere else will you dot - adults are talking here

You mean about VAR and Liverpool United have got out of Jail so far thanks to Var.

You ought to learn to be more civil

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thebillfella wrote: 19 Jan 2020, 17:06
Dot wrote:
thebillfella wrote: 19 Jan 2020, 17:04
Dot wrote:De Wallet gets away with murder
what are you talking about again? Image
Clear no foul as Neville stated
No it wasn't - contact before the ball came to do geas hand so a definite foul and correct VAR decision
Si let's just get this right


Gary Neville. No foul clear goal
Roy Keane. " why hes disallowed this gosl is beyond me, the games gone mad:" that's a quote.

Mr Sugden - biased blinkered United supporter (You!) Its a foul, I know nothing in your opinion, but you know better than respected ex United players, who can at least remain impartial.


Yep hearing you loud and clear :lol: :lol:

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A lot of these pundits still think it's the same game and same rules as it was in the 80s and 90s. The game as changed and so have the rules.

You may not agree with some of the rules but that is a different discussion - as far as the rules of today are concerned the VAR decision was absolutely the correct one no debate.

The VAR ref was surprised the on field ref didn't make the correct decision straight away. You could tell from the reaction from both sets of players that they thought it was a foul.

And you conveniently ignored Evra's opposition to Keane / Neville / Souness including him checking Sounesses drink which was quality - worth noting that he is the player that has played professionally most recently and would you think be most up to date with the latest rules and how they are being interpreted.

Everything you say is confirmation bias and full of contradictions and irony - sort of like FISOs very own Katie Hopkins.

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thebillfella wrote:A lot of these pundits still think it's the same game and same rules as it was in the 80s and 90s. The game as changed and so have the rules.

You may not agree with some of the rules but that is a different discussion - as far as the rules of today are concerned the VAR decision was absolutely the correct one no debate.

The VAR ref was surprised the on field ref didn't make the correct decision straight away. You could tell from the reaction from both sets of players that they thought it was a foul.

And you conveniently ignored Evra's opposition to Keane / Neville / Souness including him checking Sounesses drink which was quality - worth noting that he is the player that has played professionally most recently and would you think be most up to date with the latest rules and how they are being interpreted.

Everything you say is confirmation bias and full of contradictions and irony - sort of like FISOs very own Katie Hopkins.
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Would you lot have Evans back?

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thebillfella wrote: 19 Jan 2020, 16:57
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thebillfella wrote: 19 Jan 2020, 15:12 Klopp's programme notes on United:

“I am full of admiration for the work Ole is doing, this season in particular, given what he tries to juggle. As a fellow manager it is easy to see the progress they make, although others on the outside are often not so quick to recognise. They have recruited some exceptional players and the evolution of their squad makes them one of the strongest in Europe I would say. Look at their talent from the keeper through to the forwards. They have world-class talent in that team and a squad full of match-winners. Big investment has resulted in a very strong group...Of course, looking to build something takes time. We know this ourselves. But they build with outstanding results and performances as a foundation. Their win this week in the FA Cup against Wolves was yet more evidence of how dangerous they are.”
Indeed. Just like all Liverpool supporters, he's hoping Solskjaer stays in the role for some time. At the very least until Pochettino is safely elsewhere.
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No sorry that's not what I meant. It's the ones with no class that think it is right and proper to sack a manager who's been handed very few quality players and had only one transfer window.

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thebillfella wrote: 19 Jan 2020, 17:56 No sorry that's not what I meant. It's the ones with no class that think it is right and proper to sack a manager who's been handed very few quality players and had only one transfer window.
Kinda why I asked about Evans....

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Who gives a eff what Liverpool fans think about Solksjaer

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He's 32 years old now. A good player but not the right move now. Good argument to say LVG should never have got rid of him especially when he kept Jones!

As Darby says, Tuanzebe deserves his chance.

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thebillfella wrote: 19 Jan 2020, 18:06 He's 32 years old now. A good player but not the right move now. Good argument to say LVG should never have got rid of him especially when he kept Jones!

As Darby says, Tuanzebe deserves his chance.
He has it between the ears. I was chatting to 1 of you lot and it struck me that he would improve your XI let alone squad as he would have been your no1 CB for a few years now? We tried to think of a player SAF sold that you'd have had back.

Are there any other sold players that you'd have back?

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Ronaldo!

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By back, I mean not sold as well as but back...

Mata is still class.

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Genuinely, no one other than Ronnie (maybe Zlatan at a push for his presence in the dressing room and someone to throw on with 5 mins to go when you need a goal - like today!).

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Maybe Stam was as far as we got.

Neither mentioned Ronaldo. Tbh I didn't think of him, but he more left than was sold...

Just as now there is a list of "we should sell...." then there wasn't really.

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Salah's never scored against United has he

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I thought you meant players currently still playing!

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Salah's never scored against United has he

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thebillfella wrote: 19 Jan 2020, 18:23 I thought you meant players currently still playing!
Anyway theres always the Sunday-league football again next season, if you pull ya finger out. :lol:

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thebillfella wrote: 19 Jan 2020, 18:23 I thought you meant players currently still playing!
Well for the squad now, but comparing to historically is any SAF sold who went on to be good... Pogba is not an option 😂

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Again, depends what you mean. Plenty have been sold and have gone on to be good, but not necessarily better than when they were at United (and I'd include Stam in that).

Ronnie and Pique are the only ones who I can think of that improved (and maybe Foster?) but that surprised no one.

Players who went on to play well albeit not quite up to their United levels include Beckham, Tevez, Ince, RVN, Stam, Forlan, Zaha, maybe Phil Neville, you could argue Depay (but still average for me) and tons who never made the grade at united but who went on to have ok (rather than "good") careers such as Howard, Rossi, Shawcross, Heaton, King, Cathcart, Drinkwater, Savage and the like.

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I forgot Pique, but he didn't play that much?

You had better than all the rest after they had gone?

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blahblah wrote: 19 Jan 2020, 19:05 I forgot Pique, but he didn't play that much?

You had better than all the rest after they had gone?
You could see he was a talent, but was never going to get in ahead of Rio and Vidic so could understand him wanting to leave to be fair.

Not sure what you mean by the 2nd query?

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Williams looked good today. Was very surprised he was removed, thought better to take Shaw off and pull Williams back. Is it a sign Shaw is still (somehow) ahead of him in the pecking order?

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At the time you wouldn't have had any on that list ie Foster, Shawcross (although maybe 3 or 4 seasons ago) as you had better.

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hancockjr wrote: 19 Jan 2020, 19:20 Williams looked good today. Was very surprised he was removed, thought better to take Shaw off and pull Williams back. Is it a sign Shaw is still (somehow) ahead of him in the pecking order?
I can only thing Ole was protecting the kids, otherwise he would have brought Greenwood on?

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In the meantime, another bad bit of news which will only serve to distract Ed further in the market:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/51169856

Manchester United boss Ole Gunnar Solskjaer expects top scorer Marcus Rashford to be out for a "few weeks" with a back injury.

According to Henry Winter, The Times' chief footballer writer, Rashford is expected to be out for "two to three months". Winter tweeted that the forward was carrying a single stress fracture in his back and now has a double stress fracture.


I hope Ole's version of events is more accurate than Winters :shock:

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