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He started to get some plaudits during his 16 appearances last season.... it will satisfy those thinking it meets the United MO.

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But there's the crux - nobody knows right now. At the price being quoted I'm not sure he does fit the MO but that's because I haven't seen anywhere near enough of him to judge if he is worth that amount...

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Another hopeless night last night and another failure to score. How much time does Ole get? Especially with the lessening of top 4 aspiration every game that goes by.

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Not even 1 shot on target last night according to the stats.

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7lb claimer wrote:Why the reported interest in Longstaff of Newcastle? Can't say he's ever caught my eye. Is the super scout who recommended Fred at it again :shock:
If the answer is Sean Longstaff then those asking the question are truly stuffed.

(One of my TFF teams came up with him as an answer to buying a midfielder with a certain budget earlier this season so I speak from experience)

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Dot wrote: 04 Oct 2019, 20:52 Not even 1 shot on target last night according to the stats.
Greenwood certainly had one so the stats are flawed, but still not good enough

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thebillfella wrote: 04 Oct 2019, 22:19
Dot wrote: 04 Oct 2019, 20:52 Not even 1 shot on target last night according to the stats.
Greenwood certainly had one so the stats are flawed, but still not good enough
Never watched any of the game just going by the reports including this one from the Manchester evening news.

James left winger and one of the better performers for United this term, started through the middle at the Cars Jeans Stadion in a dismal 0-0 draw as United failed to register a single attempt on target.

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murf wrote: 04 Oct 2019, 21:09
7lb claimer wrote:Why the reported interest in Longstaff of Newcastle? Can't say he's ever caught my eye. Is the super scout who recommended Fred at it again :shock:
If the answer is Sean Longstaff then those asking the question are truly stuffed.

(One of my TFF teams came up with him as an answer to buying a midfielder with a certain budget earlier this season so I speak from experience)
Way top clubs run these days very different, it seems to be a coach rather than manager and squad building left to others, United seem to be way behind in that. My club Afc have brought in to this ( seems to be former player Edu) , while dont think we will trouble top 2 this season, it looks lot more hopeful next, while not convinced with manager the squad building gives me lot of hope for next season. Do think United have to make big changes regarding who is making buying calls if they want to stay in position to compete at the top.

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murf wrote: 04 Oct 2019, 21:09
7lb claimer wrote:Why the reported interest in Longstaff of Newcastle? Can't say he's ever caught my eye. Is the super scout who recommended Fred at it again :shock:
If the answer is Sean Longstaff then those asking the question are truly stuffed.

(One of my TFF teams came up with him as an answer to buying a midfielder with a certain budget earlier this season so I speak from experience)
Way top clubs run these days very different, it seems to be a coach rather than manager and squad building left to others, United seem to be way behind in that. My club Afc have brought in to this ( seems to be former player Edu) , while dont think we will trouble top 2 this season, it looks lot more hopeful next, while not convinced with manager the squad building gives me lot of hope for next season. Do think United have to make big changes regarding who is making buying calls if they want to stay in position to compete at the top.
Squad building?! David Luiz!!

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The attackers look promising though....

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Would being above Spurs ease the MU pain?

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blahblah wrote:Would being above Spurs ease the MU pain?
Haha maybe just a little

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S_sutton87 wrote: 05 Oct 2019, 13:15
William Saliba will be with us next season, we brought him and loaned back for season, not sure would see Sideshow Bob as anything more than a cheap stop gap, but for sure better than we have at moment. Most outside of top 2 are miles behind in terms of squad these days top player cost a fortune so it normally has to be done over a few windows, thats why you need specialist behind manager/coach and its in my view problem at United.

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mikeg13 wrote:
S_sutton87 wrote: 05 Oct 2019, 13:15
William Saliba will be with us next season, we brought him and loaned back for season, not sure would see Sideshow Bob as anything more than a cheap stop gap, but for sure better than we have at moment. Most outside of top 2 are miles behind in terms of squad these days top player cost a fortune so it normally has to be done over a few windows, thats why you need specialist behind manager/coach and its in my view problem at United.
Totally agree Woodward hasn't got a clue what he's doing before this transfer window all he was interested in was signing players that can sell shirts

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Well, it would appear the direction of travel has come to a stop and gone into reverse...

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Magic wrote: 04 Oct 2019, 15:57Another hopeless night last night and another failure to score. How much time does Ole get? Especially with the lessening of top 4 aspiration every game that goes by.
This is beginning to become relevant.Two points above the relegation spots.

Top 4 aspirations becoming replaced with Top 17 aspirations.

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Tried to back United at 500/1 to be relegated with William Hills just before start of games at 2 pmyesterday. Couldn't get on :twisted: I even phoned them and was given some crap that there were games today so betting suspended. :twisted:

I managed only to get on at 200/1 at 8.30 last night :twisted: Hills then cut the price to 100/1 Not long after.

I would expect Liverpool to break the record at OT in the next game and United's price to be relegated to come tumbling down like a stack of cards.

At least i could console myself with backing Chelsea to win yesterday, along with Wolves to beat City (22'/1) :shock: and Newcastle to beat United at (16/5) in a nice 164/1 treble albeit in small. 8-)

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I thought we weren't going to make top 4 but didn't think it would be this bad. Apparently our reserves and under 18 teams are not doing well either? I haven't checked

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Are they really like the Class of 75?

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defensively, I think MU have done fairly well. Conceded fewer than the noisy neighbours in fact.

But going forward is a whole other story. Need a no.9 as a matter of priority - Rashford is a 2nd striker not a lead man, and Martial needs to be the danger man coming in from wide (plus he gets crocked too often).

Midfield looks ok from a DM standpoint, but other than that creates nothing.

Eriksen and Kane?

Haaland Jnr (or is MU off the table given he is a Leeds man)?

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jimmy ching wrote: 07 Oct 2019, 11:09 Are they really like the Class of 75?
No chance, they won their league that season.

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raoul wrote: 07 Oct 2019, 11:38 defensively, I think MU have done fairly well. Conceded fewer than the noisy neighbours in fact.

But going forward is a whole other story. Need a no.9 as a matter of priority - Rashford is a 2nd striker not a lead man, and Martial needs to be the danger man coming in from wide (plus he gets crocked too often).

Midfield looks ok from a DM standpoint, but other than that creates nothing.

Eriksen and Kane?

Haaland Jnr (or is MU off the table given he is a Leeds man)?
Lukaku would seem a sensible option!

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hancockjr wrote: 07 Oct 2019, 12:31
raoul wrote: 07 Oct 2019, 11:38 defensively, I think MU have done fairly well. Conceded fewer than the noisy neighbours in fact.

But going forward is a whole other story. Need a no.9 as a matter of priority - Rashford is a 2nd striker not a lead man, and Martial needs to be the danger man coming in from wide (plus he gets crocked too often).

Midfield looks ok from a DM standpoint, but other than that creates nothing.

Eriksen and Kane?

Haaland Jnr (or is MU off the table given he is a Leeds man)?
Lukaku would seem a sensible option!
err, yes.

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Lukaku out was the right decision. Not replacing him (and Sanchez) with someone superior (in quality and / or effort) was gross negligence by Woodward yet again. Without Martial up top we look completely toothless.

I don't blame Ole for this - he is doing the best he (and I would argue most managers) can with the players at his disposal. His 3 signing choices have been excellent and I think McTominay, Lindelof and Tuanzebe haven't really done much wrong (along with Dr Gea of course and maybe Martial when not injured).

The rest have just not been good enough - even Rashford has been woeful this year, Matic and Mata are well past their best (Young has been atrocious) and the likes of Lingard and Pereira are squad players at best.

I fear for Ole now though in the current climate, but if Woodward doesn't get him a top class creative mid, right wing and goal scorer as soon as the next window opens then I can't see us finishings top 6 never mind top 4.

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Woodward’s fault for not finding a striker.
Ole’s credited for the three signings made 🤔

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Zimmerman wrote: 07 Oct 2019, 19:18 Woodward’s fault for not finding a striker.
Ole’s credited for the three signings made 🤔
I noticed that too :lol:

The problem is that there is no real pattern of play ie style plan etc.

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Ole said if Lukaku left (let alone Sanchez too) then obviously we'd need to sign a replacement. The club didn't deliver, then he has to face up to the media, carry the can and basically lie that he's happy.

Mourinho tried the toys out the pram routine and they left him short too - the infamous summer 2018 window of Fred, Dalot and Lee Grant.

There is no hope for the club with the current owners.

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'A quagmire of mediocrity'

This was a real quote, from a United staff member, to sum up what they thought of the current situation.

(BBC)

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Zimmerman wrote: 07 Oct 2019, 19:18 Woodward’s fault for not finding a striker.
Ole’s credited for the three signings made 🤔
Yes - Ole gives him the targets, Woodward does the signing and selling. He didn't land all the targets (yet again).

Equally, Woodward is the one responsible for not having a Director of Football and is responsible for the dire scouting system now in place not Ole. The lack of quality that is a direct result of Woodward's (and the Glazers) failings is the problem here not the cock and bull bollocks about tactics / systems / styles of play.

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