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thebillfella wrote: 27 Jan 2019, 10:41
Zimmerman wrote:
murf wrote: 26 Jan 2019, 15:09
raoul wrote: 26 Jan 2019, 14:43 (note Lingard's reaction to scoring last night, when he ran straight past Lukaku who had supplied the pass, totally ignoring him)
I did notice that! Team spirit? Nah! Image
Me too... thought it was quite odd. Poor Lukaku ended up having to cup his ear to try and cover the fact he’d held out his arms ready for his embrace that never came and was stood there looking a bit isolated.
Think you may be looking for negatives that don't exist there chaps?
Definitely.

I was at the game, and it was extremly funny - poor old Rom looked like he didn't know where to put himself as Jesse sprinted past... then he thought to cup his ears - bit like when your cat falls off the sofa and after a moment of bafflement rolls over and starts clearning itself nonchalantly as if to say "I meant that" :lol:

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murf wrote:Just a selfish arogant Lingaard ego thing then?

Maybe but it shows team spirit isn't high enough to overcome all individual egos yet.
Or maybe it just shows that Lingard hadn't told Lukaku he was planning a new goal celebration if he scored?!!

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Or maybe it shows Lingard thinks making himself look a massive prick is more important than respecting his team mates?

Modern football. :roll:

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For those who are sceptical about the Utd way; league goals scored by academy graduates this season:

Manchester United: 20
Arsenal: 3
Chelsea: 3
Liverpool: 1
Man City: 0

The record of selecting at least one home-grown player developed by the club's own youth setup in every single matchday squad has now remained unbroken for over 81 years (from 30th October 1937) with no signs of breaking under Ole. That alone is something I am very proud to support (even with that "disrespectful prick" Lingard :wink: :D ).

Just sayin'.

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All depends how you define 'academy graduate'.
Arsenal topped the table for academy graduate appearances last year and their top 2 players in the list were both foreign signings- Bellerin and Iwobi.


PS Your table above is on goals scored. Do it on defensive CSs and Liverpool will surely outdo you thanks to TAA and Gomez (bought in but still counts as an academy graduate).

Lies, damn lies and academy graduate statistics carefully selected to support an argument.
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It took a while for the penny to drop re Prem, as o was on Youth league, then the Citeh bid in Germany... :oops: :lol:

I genuinely thought that record had gone some time in the last 5 or so years though.

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murf wrote: 28 Jan 2019, 22:45 All depends how you define 'academy graduate'.
Arsenal topped the table last year and their top 2 players were both foreign signings- Bellerin and Iwobi.
So they would have counted Fab?

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Bob Newhart wrote: 27 Jan 2019, 19:52
thebillfella wrote: 27 Jan 2019, 10:41
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murf wrote: 26 Jan 2019, 15:09
raoul wrote: 26 Jan 2019, 14:43 (note Lingard's reaction to scoring last night, when he ran straight past Lukaku who had supplied the pass, totally ignoring him)
I did notice that! Team spirit? Nah! Image
Me too... thought it was quite odd. Poor Lukaku ended up having to cup his ear to try and cover the fact he’d held out his arms ready for his embrace that never came and was stood there looking a bit isolated.
Think you may be looking for negatives that don't exist there chaps?
Definitely.
100%. Some of these rival fans don't 'arf talk nonsense :roll:

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Magic wrote: 29 Jan 2019, 11:55
Bob Newhart wrote: 27 Jan 2019, 19:52
thebillfella wrote: 27 Jan 2019, 10:41
Zimmerman wrote:
murf wrote: 26 Jan 2019, 15:09
raoul wrote: 26 Jan 2019, 14:43 (note Lingard's reaction to scoring last night, when he ran straight past Lukaku who had supplied the pass, totally ignoring him)
I did notice that! Team spirit? Nah! Image
Me too... thought it was quite odd. Poor Lukaku ended up having to cup his ear to try and cover the fact he’d held out his arms ready for his embrace that never came and was stood there looking a bit isolated.
Think you may be looking for negatives that don't exist there chaps?
Definitely.
100%. Some of these rival fans don't 'arf talk nonsense :roll:
for the record I am not a rival fan (and am really enjoying seeing a resurgent attacking MU after so long), but yes, if you wish, Lingard definitely did not leave Lukaku standing there looking like Billy No Mates after Lukaku had set him up for his goal, so that Lingard could instead go and do his little dance thing. I suspect he said "cheers big man", or somesuch, as he went past.

If that had been Pogba standing there instead of Lukaku, Lingard would now be a dead man.

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Maldini wrote: 27 Jan 2019, 20:32 Or maybe it shows Lingard thinks making himself look a massive prick is more important than respecting his team mates?

Modern football. :roll:
it is the one concern I have for MU - there are a few attitudes that are at risk of blowing up once the consecutive wins stop. Even in this game Rashford looked far from happy when Pogba decided to shoot instead of putting him in, and it was probably just as well the rebound was put away.

Mourinho was one extra attitude too many, but the risk of team disharmony remains imho.

For now, I am enjoying seeing the attacking MU of old. Long may it continue, and the Liverpool game is looking like an absolute pearl.

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raoul wrote: 29 Jan 2019, 12:30
For now, I am enjoying seeing the attacking MU of old. Long may it continue......
Evoking the very best of the Fergie years, with the great man on the sidelines advising, has been a background theme to Ole's attempts to get back the style and the players' playing, so what better way to complete that than to bring back Fergie time. Snatching an unlikely point from certain defeat, two goals down with minutes left, will feel like a point gained rather than two lost, and a real reality check averted for now, those famed powers of recovery are back.

I suspect huge relief must have been the overriding emotion last night given how late they scored both goals, but in the cold light of day they may reflect on a disappointing loss of two points as being an unwelcome setback in their chase of the top four.

The exciting finale to this chaotic and enthralling game may mask questions about Solskjaer’s team selection, and principally the decision to drop Jesse Lingard and instead start Juan Mata on the right of the attack and move Marcus Rashford out to the left to accommodate Romelu Lukaku at centre-forward. Solskjaer had expressed hope that, with Anthony Martial missing through injury, Rashford and Lukaku would “hit it off”.

The big man was impressive exposing an inherent weakness on the Arsenal flank on Friday and possibly the hope was with confidence lifted he would welcome a chance in the centre again. Obviously Martial's absence enforced change but they look so much better to me with Lingard and Martial's pace out wide and Rashford in the middle. Rashford is far more mobile and the attacks more fluid. Mata for me hasn't the pace and for all his many attributes I've never really thought he was a great fit or suited United's traditional style.

The absolutely perfect start has had it's first slight hiccup and the sequence of eight wins interrupted, there's still a long way until April/May and getting back on track on Sunday away to Leicester has assumed a little more importance.

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liquidfootball2 wrote: 30 Jan 2019, 09:22I suspect huge relief must have been the overriding emotion last night given how late they scored both goals, but in the cold light of day they may reflect on a disappointing loss of two points as being an unwelcome setback in their chase of the top four.
The overriding emotion was one of disappointment we couldn't beat a rubbish Burnley side at home.

Still, the comeback proved something the pundits wanted (to see how United reacted when going behind). The next need is to respond positively to a setback. We'll get a sense of that around 15:50 on Sunday.

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Tacalabala wrote: 27 Aug 2018, 21:46
MoSe wrote: 27 Aug 2018, 21:32
RuudTheDudeVanTheMan wrote: 27 Aug 2018, 21:24 Lindelof is so bad
I had been saying it here from the get go, but got scoffed at
Not from me, he has looked suspect from day one.
Darbyand wrote: 20 Aug 2018, 12:18 FWIW I think Lindelof is shite and will never make it in the Prem, he's not up to the physical demands.
Sometimes players just need a bit of time and patience to adapt / adjust to the pace of the prem and develop both physically and mentally.

I'm not saying he's the new Rio, but Lindelof has been one of our better players the last couple of months and now starting to show his worth. I think he still needs someone quality alongside him however...

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Magic wrote: 30 Jan 2019, 09:26The overriding emotion was one of disappointment we couldn't beat a rubbish Burnley side at home. Still, the comeback proved something the pundits wanted (to see how United reacted when going behind). The next need is to respond positively to a setback. We'll get a sense of that around 15:50 on Sunday.
This. Leicester looked decent last night. It will be a test.

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You can only be mightily impressed by the way Solskjaer is managing his resources at the moment, while continuing this amazing start. The Burnley result, in which they rescued an unlikely point, perhaps now looking more a blip in an otherwise perfect start.

Its still far too early for them to think about a permanent appointment but he's doing his own cause no harm at all

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Bob Newhart wrote: 31 Jan 2019, 07:39
Magic wrote: 30 Jan 2019, 09:26The overriding emotion was one of disappointment we couldn't beat a rubbish Burnley side at home. Still, the comeback proved something the pundits wanted (to see how United reacted when going behind). The next need is to respond positively to a setback. We'll get a sense of that around 15:50 on Sunday.
This. Leicester looked decent last night. It will be a test.
Passed it well :)

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thebillfella wrote: 30 Jan 2019, 17:29
Tacalabala wrote: 27 Aug 2018, 21:46
MoSe wrote: 27 Aug 2018, 21:32
RuudTheDudeVanTheMan wrote: 27 Aug 2018, 21:24 Lindelof is so bad
I had been saying it here from the get go, but got scoffed at
Not from me, he has looked suspect from day one.
Darbyand wrote: 20 Aug 2018, 12:18 FWIW I think Lindelof is shite and will never make it in the Prem, he's not up to the physical demands.
Sometimes players just need a bit of time and patience to adapt / adjust to the pace of the prem and develop both physically and mentally.

I'm not saying he's the new Rio, but Lindelof has been one of our better players the last couple of months and now starting to show his worth. I think he still needs someone quality alongside him however...
It probably didn't help that Jose was rubbishing him pretty much from day one. He looked half decent for Sweden in the summer as well. Bailly looked decent at first when he signed but went backwards, maybe he too will benefit from time and patience.

With Jones and Smalling you know what you're going to get and they probably have reached their ceiling, they should be squad players or being offloaded to Leicester or Watford.

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forestfan wrote: 03 Feb 2019, 19:36With Jones and Smalling you know what you're going to get and they probably have reached their ceiling, they should be squad players or being offloaded to Leicester or Watford.
Or Forest?

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/47111521

Does Wincey never know when to shut up? :roll:

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Whilst I know Ince is usually spouting b0ll0cks usually about how good he is despite the contrary evidence... I think his points are valid in this instance.


That said, there’s impressive and there’s bloody annoying (from Ole).

Spurs, Arsenal and even Leicester away put paid to the notion that they’ve had it easy. Yes some games have been delightful for them, but they’ve past the sterner tests too.

Looks like my prediction of him taking 34/63 points was fantastically wishful (currently on 22/24). If they manage 12/39 I’d be ecstatic 😂

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Bob Newhart wrote: 04 Feb 2019, 07:41
forestfan wrote: 03 Feb 2019, 19:36With Jones and Smalling you know what you're going to get and they probably have reached their ceiling, they should be squad players or being offloaded to Leicester or Watford.
Or Forest?
I’d certainly take them in the Championship (though their wages might be a bit over the top...) It’s all relative, they are England players after all!

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Phil Jones has signed a new contract! Though it's not always what it seems these days, Fellaini signed one last year for instance. I'd still expect a new CB to arrive at some point.

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I hope it's a min. 50% reduction or pay as you play to cover all the time he is on the treatment table or the bench!

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Regular bench players can be extremely expensive these days, ask Unai Emery at Arsenal.

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Wle Wunnar Wolskjaer.

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liquidfootball2 wrote: 08 Feb 2019, 15:45 Regular bench players can be extremely expensive these days, ask Unai Emery at Arsenal.

:D
Not just the bench :shock:

:lol:

Lulu gone in the summer?

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"Mourinho was right when he said Man Utd would be back in the top 4 in the New Year." - Gary Lineker :D

We now enter a month that will really test where they are now at with PSG, Chelsea, Liverpool, Arsenal and City all coming up...

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Kinda true but: Cavani may be out as well as Bratboy; follow the Bournemouth et al model and Sarriball is impotent - I think it could get very ugly today; and Arse were lucky to only let one in vs Hudds :shock: How the fallen have mightied....

Btw: you missed a x2 after PSG? :wink:

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Woodward, one of the Glazers and Ole's agent were at the game yesterday. Could be making 2+2 equal 5 of course.

I think the City league game is on FA Cup qf weekend so assuming City go past Newport (and/or United beat Chelsea) it could be more towards the end of the season, certainly April if I've recalled Judio's posts correctly. Would be an interesting one for the fans if the title is in the mix.

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