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CptPugwash
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Post by CptPugwash »

Anybody Else having a go at this.

Put 2 teams together so far, the first team only had 10 players and no way to get an 11th in :!:

Tip - when selecting your initial team DO NOT remove any of your selections. Complete the XI first then use transfers to effect changes. I removed a player, couldn't pick anyone in his place, and couldn't even get my original selection back in.

I'm finding the pricing a bit silly. I mean who's going to spend £53M of a £200M budget on Neymar when Fred costs 6M :?:

Site looks nice, but there are a number of issues. Not the least of which is that the country drop down bar only rarely goes as far as Uruguay, and normally only gets to say about Italy.

There's a number of questions I Have to which I can not find any explanation on the website.
1. Transfers 3 per day. Does that mean lead up to the first Kick off of the day, or can use 1 days allocation for changes in and out of your team.
2. Captain - Is he fixed, or can you change him daily. If he's supposed to be fixed what happens if you transfer him out.
3. 3 players per team. Is that for group stages only or is fixed throughout the tourney.

Anyway I have picked a team on the assumption that the transfer rule is 3 transfers up to the first Kick Off, and then the next days allocation starts.

Cesar BRA
________
Danii Alves BRA
Yepes COL
Lugano URU
Alba SPA
___________
Rakitic CRO
Rodriguez COL
Di Maria ARG
___________
Fred BRA
Lukaku BEL
Higuain ARG
___________
Total Cost 177.96M
Plans
Day 2 2 Brazil & Rakitic :arrow: 3 Chile
Day 3 3 Chile :arrow: 1 Col + 2 Uruguay
Day 4 3 Uruguay :arrow: 2 Frogs + 1 Argie

Anyone else had a go at this malarkey yet?

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I did flag this game up a couple of weeks ago -

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...with a warning, that they didn't have enough punters for their season game to be able to pay out on the advertised prize trip to the world cup. Can't see mention as yet of minimum required participants for them to pay out this time, but then also have no idea on where the prize money is coming from/who are sponsoring the game.

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Post by FootballFanager »

Hi all,

Many thanks for raising the above concerns.

First of all, please note that once you've created a team on FootballFanager.com you have UNLIMITED TRANSFERS until the game actually starts. The first cut off will be 15 minutes before Brazil vs Croatia kicks off.

The cut off for transfers each day will be 15 minutes prior to the first kick off of the day.

You'll then have THREE transfers per day throughout the Group Stages where you can rotate your 11 man squad - Strategy is key!

Daily transfer allowances will increase throughout the different stages of the Tournament but full details of that can be found in an info-graphic towards the bottom of our homepage.

Our prizes are all supplied by us. We hold a UK Gambling License. Details of this can be found in the footer on each page of our website. Please also note that there are NO minimum requirements - All prizes advertised with be honoured.

Any website errors you see are being ironed out as we speak so, our apologies for any inconvenience you've had with regards to the filters and other small bugs.

If you are being hampered by anything else in particular then I shall leave my email address below for you to contact me on if it's a problem.

All feedback is always welcome, especially when it's something new.

Good luck with your teams and if you have any other questions, please let me know.

Leon@fantasysportsltd.com

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hi,

Thanks for responding here. There seems a real shortage of games for this world cup so I'm looking forward to trying this.

I think the obvious question is one already raised by Cpt P-
Do you choose one captain for the whole tournament (in which case what happens if you transfer him out?) Or can you choose a new captain each day?

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Look on the left side of your team page once set up - there is a "transfer" option. Think you can change every day - BUT each transfer costs five tokens - and tokens are bought for cash, unless this is a feature left over from their season game which hasn't been changed yet.

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Hi again,

You do not pay for transfers - Let's make this clear.

You are given THREE free transfers per day, during the Group Stages and the Last 16 fixtures.

It then rises to 4 for the quarters, 6 for the semi finals and 8 for the final - Full details of this can be seen on an info-graphic towards the bottom of our homepage.

You can change your captain daily, which will deduct 5 tokens from your token account, however, every day we will credit every user with 10 tokens, so long as they log in.

So, to clarify, we don't charge for transfers and we don't charge to change your captain.

You have unlimited transfers until 15 minutes prior to the Brazil vs Croatia game so, there's plenty of time to chop and change your final 11 between now and then.

All of our featured leagues are free to enter, and that includes the £20,000 World Cup League and many others.

You have the option to join or create cash entry leagues if you're feeling brave enough.

I hope that helps clear up a few concerns.

If there's anything you need to ask then feel free, or, follow us on twitter: @FootballFanager

Good luck all,

Leon.

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Post by Tacalabala »

Art Vandelay wrote:hi,

Thanks for responding here. There seems a real shortage of games for this world cup so I'm looking forward to trying this.

I think the obvious question is one already raised by Cpt P-
Do you choose one captain for the whole tournament (in which case what happens if you transfer him out?) Or can you choose a new captain each day?
How many games do you want to play in?

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Still not quite clear on the captain. So do you choose a captain for the day before the first kick off same as the transfers? or could you change captain between different kick offs the same day?

Tacalabala wrote:How many games do you want to play in?
Two or three? Quality rather than quantity but at International tournaments in the past there must have been 15 or so games to pick from, for the World Cup there's only four or five :?

The only regular games running are ones I don't like (or in the case of the Mirror am not eligible for the prizes), so unless a few SM games appear in the next few days I'll be putting all my eggs in the Football Fanager basket. It'd better be good :twisted:
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Art Vandelay wrote:
Tacalabala wrote:How many games do you want to play in?
Two or three? Quality rather than quantity but at International tournaments in the past there must have been 15 or so games to pick from, for the World Cup there's only four or five :?

The only regular games running are ones I don't like (or in the case of the Mirror am not eligible for the prizes), so unless a few SM games appear in the next few days I'll be putting all my eggs in the Football Fanager basket. It'd better be good :twisted:
McDonald's/FIFA, TFF?

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What's the purpose of "tokens" being taken away, and then added on again if you log in every day? Isn't this an unnecessary complication, and why are there are lots of terms and conditions regarding payments for token credits if they don't matter, and if the game is free?. Doesn't seem clear to me at all, sorry if i'm being obtuse.

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Getting you used to the format - tokens being an integral part of their revenue stream for upcoming games I suppose.

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WilBert wrote:Getting you used to the format - tokens being an integral part of their revenue stream for upcoming games I suppose.
I can see that was how it worked for their game last year - but the screens are different now; there's no mention of how many token credits you have on your account, until you go to the captain transfer screen. In the previous season game, there was tally of your credits next to a yellow button on top right of main screen. Still seems a bit fiddly to me - and not clear, or else there wouldn't have been other questions about it.

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In the 'how to play > rule of transfers section' it says

''You are limited to 3 transfers per day per team in the Football Fanager World Cup league in the group stages and the last 16. You will be allowed 4 transfers per day per team in the quarter finals, 6 for the semi finals and 8 for the finals. There is no transfer limit on Private Leagues which can have unlimited transfers configured when you create a Private League.''

The last sentence is very confusing. In the first few sentences it clearly says that you are limited to 'X' amount of transfers per day (depending on the stage of the world cup competition)

Then in the last sentence it says that there is no transfer limit on Private leagues? does that mean that if you are in a private league you can make as many transfers as you want in a team?? :/

Also the captain rule seems flawed. it says

''It costs 5 tokens to change your Captain, but remember you receive 10 tokens per calendar day that you log on, so you can effectively change your captain twice a day for free provided you log on once each day during the World Cup!''

but remember there are 3 games per day in the group stages so does that mean that buying extra tokens and using that to make a captain change will allow you to make a third captain change and thus have an advantage of having an extra captain each day to managers who don't have tokens and can only make 2 captain changes??

Seems as though alot of integral parts of this game are not quite clear at the moment.

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Post by Art Vandelay »

Good spot. I hadn't even seen that. It's hard work working out the rules for this. Unless we get confirmation everyone will have the same number of transfers and captains I think I'll have to give it a miss :(

Tacalabala wrote:McDonald's/FIFA, TFF?
Thanks but they're games I don't like. I still haven't forgiven the telegraph for their shoddy treatment of TFFO :evil:

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I take it Leon didn't write the t&c's then? :lol: :lol:

Shambles.

Not worth the hassle.

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Indeed, this game looks flawed, clarity regarding the transfers in particular would be much appreciated, i have sent a message, waiting on the reply.
Billy Stark wrote:I take it Leon didn't write the t&c's then? :lol: :lol:

Shambles.

Not worth the hassle.

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Post by foreverengland »

I'm guessing here, but I reckon the captain changes are limited to 1 per day - 15 mins before kick off akin to the transfer cut-off.

The Private League transfer numbers are (again I'm presuming) something that the originator of a PL would set up (i.e. I may set up a FISO PL and decide upon a maximum of 50 for the whole tourney for example, albeit a max of 3 transfers per day would still apply).

It looks like a team can only be in one league (be it private or public).

A nice facility would be to amend team names (for when someone with fat fingers like me biffed the keyboard, and the ability to delete a team - I have one rogue one hanging round I don't seem to be able to do anything with!)

Was good to see Leon on here explaining things recently - would be nice to see him back on and clarifying things a little more before kick-off too. 8-)

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Post by FootballFanager »

Hello hello,

I've passed on all of the above comments to the senior folk and have asked them to take a look at this ASAP and get back to me with accurate information which make it clearer for everyone involved.

I'll be back soon, promise.

Leon.

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Hi again,

Hope you're all well.

Okay, with regards to the free public leagues which we promote on the footballfanager.com homepage.

THREE transfers per day and ONE captaincy change per day per team you submit. The transfer limits increase to 4 per day, 6 per day and 8 for the final. Details of this can be found on an info-graphic on our homepage however, we are writing out a clear guide today which will be uploaded to the website also.

You can submit THREE teams to the £20,000 World Cup League, giving everyone more than one chance to win. Obviously, if you only wish to enter one team then that's down to each individual player to decide.

You can then submit ONE team to the Fantasy Football Pundits League, LadBible, FootyAccums etc and many of the other free public leagues. All of this depends on how much time you have on your hands.

You cannot change your captain per game, regardless of how many tokens you have. This way, all teams entered in to the public leagues play by the same rules! Leaving no one at a disadvantage.

Private leagues - The rules of a private league are down to the person/admin who created it. The admin can send out email invites to their leagues.

The transition we've made from our Euro/Premier League game last season has been huge, so, we can only apologise if we've not made certain aspects 100% clear.

The key to this game is strategy - Unlike FPL and Sky Fantasy, you don't just pick a team and let it roll for the week. The aim is to maximise each day of fixtures and have as many quality players playing as you can. Your score will then roll over to the following day where hopefully you'll have plenty of players playing again.

I hope this helps clear up a questions which have been asked above.

Cheers,

Leon.

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Re the Captains.

My presumption is that it is only 1 per today. But remember you can have multiple entries.

Say for example you have 3 teams and no tokens, when you log on for the first time that day you get 10 tokens, so can change the captain in 2 of your teams.
Now if you have been logging on regularly during the build up you should have built up a bank of tokens, so for the first few days you can change the captain in all of your teams, after a while your bank has gone so either you will commit to 2 teams or you have to buy some tokens.

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Just in case Football Fanager is back soon.

These are my 4 key questions.

1. Is the captain change limited to one change per team per day or can you change it more than once per team if you have spare tokens.

2. Must the captain change like transfers be done 15 minutes before the first days kick-off, because if it is it's irrelevant how many times per day you change it.

3. Does the limit of players per team increase after the group stage. I like to forward plan these things and if you are still limited to 3 per team it will effect the transfers i do in the group stages.

4. Where there is a 2:00 am kick off does that
a) Count as being the previous day, and therefore delay the start of your new allocation until some time later.
b) Count as the start of a new day, and you must make your changes between midnight and 1:45.
c) Count as the start of a new day, but your changes are still allowed until 15 minutes before the next kick-off.
d) Some other Random thing that i haven't even considered.

Oh and the team that had 10 players - it took them only 2 hours after i sent a ticket to add a random midfielder to my team as requested.
Very Impressed with that.

If the rules get cleared up, I think I'm going to like this game. Anything that requires forward planning and an ounce or two of noggin' is right up my street.

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Hi there how you doing?

1) You can change your captain per team, once per day, using the same cut off times/rules as the transfers.

2) You can change your captain once the last game of the day is over.

3) You can have three players from each team for the Group Stages and the Last 16 stage. It then increases to four from any team for the quarter finals, 6 for the semi finals and 8 for the final.

4) I've discussed the concerns about the 2am kick off between Ivory Coast and Japan I've decided to move that fixture back to the Saturday the 14th game-day. So, there's need for you to be settling any alarms or, staying awake to make your changes at such a poor time of the day :) - I'm sorry that I didn't clear this up any sooner guys.

We have a team on hand during the day who will action any changes you need making or are struggling with. If it's late and you need to know something then, feel free to email me at leon@fantasysportsltd.com or, drop me a message on twitter @FootballFanager

What I'm going to do is re-write the rules in to a new document which I'll be sharing via our social media outlets and website articles. I'll be sure to post a copy here for you all to see, just incase there are still unanswered questions etc.

Yes, it's frustrating that we haven't documented everything to the highest possible standard and I can personally only apologise for that, however, like you said, once you understand what you're required to do and can therefore work on a strategy, this really is a fantastic and unique fantasy football platform.

Happy to reply to any more questions you might have and i'll post a link to the newly written document once done.

All the best and thanks again lads.

Leon.

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Post by united88 »

Thanks for the clarification Leon. Just 2 quick questions

1) If we enter 3 teams does that mean that we will need an extra token per day to change the captain in our 3rd team (as we get 10 tokens each day thus only allowing us to make 1 free transfer in 2 teams but not the third, or is it 10 tokens per team meaning we can make free captain changes in all 3 teams)

2) what is the maximum amount of public AND paid leagues each team can enter.

i.e suppose i enter 3 teams into the competition how many free and paid leagues can each team enter.

many thanks

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Hi again,

You can submit THREE seperate teams to the main World Cup £20K league and only ONE seperate team to any of the other leagues, both public and private.

The reason for this is because as we're talking about, transfer rules and limits can change for specific leagues so, if you wanted to enter the FFPundits and the LadBible league, you'd have to have separate teams.

With the World Cup being a completely different fixtures set up in comparison to the Fantasy Premier League, it's been difficult for us to have multiple entries to leagues with the same team, so, we've had to do it this way.

I've raised the issues/concerns with regards to players who have multiple teams and the token deductions per team etc and will have a response from the powers that be ASAP.

Please also note that once you register, you're credited with 50 free tokens to start you off, however, I can appreciate that if you're looking to control maybe 3, 4 or even 5 teams, the tokens won't last long when spending 20+ per day on captaincy changes so, leave that with me for now.

Again, I will post a response via here when received, I promise.

Cheers,

Leon.

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PS - Happy to do a Hangout/Skype chat if a group of you would prefer to chat this way.

Also happy to give you a call to discuss.

I'm a hardcore fantasy football guy myself so, I'm fully aware of you all wanting to know this game inside out without any missing links.

Speak soon,

Leon.

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Thanks for the replies, think that's most things cleared up, just one more question on transfers....

Are your day's transfers removed once the first game has kicked off or can you still use them after the final match?
For example if I used 2 transfers at 4:40 (assuming a 5pm kick off) could I then use my final transfer of that day at say 11:20pm (assuming final game 11pm kick off) before the next day's three transfers have been added?

Thanks.

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Hi there,

Whether you only use 1, 2 or 3 of your available daily transfers, once the cut-off time hits, there's no going back.

There's no carry over of transfers to the following day and no follower over to later fixtures within the days fixtures.

Use them or lose them :)

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FootballFanager wrote:Hi there,

Whether you only use 1, 2 or 3 of your available daily transfers, once the cut-off time hits, there's no going back.

There's no carry over of transfers to the following day and no follower over to later fixtures within the days fixtures.

Use them or lose them :)
"Transfers will reopen after the last match of the day has started." - that's a quote from the rules of transfers section on the site, which seems to contradict what you're saying above.

Anyway, thanks for coming on to the site and explaining some of the game features; my own queries earlier were from having looked at the season game last month - and indeed some of the features from the premier game don't apply to the world cup game, so all looks much better now; just a few details re rules to tidy up, such as the above daily transfers issue!

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Post by FootballFanager »

Hi, that's exactly what I meant.

You have three transfers to make each day at your disposal.

The cut off to use your daily three transfers is 15 minutes before the first game on each game day so, you have between the end of the last game on day 1 until 15 minutes before the first game on day 2, and so on.

We'll be creating a document for all of this anyway so, will post it here when done.

Good luck to all.

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Interesting competition, not sure I've ever seen a player price range quite like it.

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