7-8 mil forwards: are they good value?

[Pirlo's Beard]

On a side note, what are S'oton upto?! Their squad looks weaker than Newcastle right now.

They're playing a home friendly against Levante tonight, should be a lovely atmosphere at St. Mary's.

[blahblah]

Maybe they are the ones who end up with Tammy? Nice striker merry-go-round in sight

More signings to come thats for sure, templates being ripped up everywhere!

I thought that re Tammy, or he goes to Spurs/Inter as part of the Kane/Lulu deal?

[SirMattBugsby]

On a side note, what are S'oton upto?! Their squad looks weaker than Newcastle right now.

They're playing a home friendly against Levante tonight, should be a lovely atmosphere at St. Mary's.

Jesus and Joseph are gonna be there

Maybe they are the ones who end up with Tammy? Nice striker merry-go-round in sight

More signings to come thats for sure, templates being ripped up everywhere!

I thought that re Tammy, or he goes to Spurs/Inter as part of the Kane/Lulu deal?

Let's pick our guy and find out one month later who he plays for

[Pirlo's Beard]

They're playing a home friendly against Levante tonight, should be a lovely atmosphere at St. Mary's.

You can watch it for free on YouTube actually, if you're curious to see what a stadium full of people who have lost the will to live looks like.

[blahblah]

To be fair, Ings said that he was off at the end of last season ie not extending expiring deal.

[Pirlo's Beard]

To be fair, Ings said that he was off at the end of last season ie not extending expiring deal.

I'm sure that'll cheer them right up.

Roberto Soldado is in the Levante team, maybe they could make a bid for him?

[Blue Fire]

Striker options seem quite thin now with all the uncertainty in the market

[Kris_fiso]

Pukki could be good value

[Fuzzy]

The 8m bracket (DCL, Bamford, Ings, and the other one) just gained some appeal over the 7.5m group.

That’s 0.5m I think I’ll want up my sleeve

[Joccki_10]

Maybe they are the ones who end up with Tammy? Nice striker merry-go-round in sight

Abraham most likely off to Atalanta. That’s the merry-go-round: Lukaku to Chelsea, Abraham to Atalanta and Zapata to Inter.

[blahblah]

Maybe they are the ones who end up with Tammy? Nice striker merry-go-round in sight

Abraham most likely off to Atalanta. That’s the merry-go-round: Lukaku to Chelsea, Abraham to Atalanta and Zapata to Inter.

And Kane to Coventry

[Hogmeister]

Ings confirmed at Villa!

Is that Watkins dead as an option now or will they play two up front?

Can't see Ings sitting on the bench and he's not the type of player to move wide or drop deep etc.

Must have passed the medical so if he's fit and ready to go he could be the man, 8m, nailed, on pens (surely), proven record..........

Wow, didn't expect that! Staying off both now, need to see how Smith manages them. Maybe I need to stick with my Wilson hunch..

On a side note, what are S'oton upto?! Their squad looks weaker than Newcastle right now.

For Villa, probably means Ings goes up front and Watkins wide left, with Buendia in the No 10 role (and Grealish of course out of the picture). Which reduces (a little) Watkins appeal, although all three of those could be good value this season.

The potential uncertainty of that line up and whether new boy Ings will be ready to go in GW1, plus the fact that Villa’s fixtures turn toxic in GW4, mean Watkins and Ings may be a “wait and see” rather than GW1 picks (although if Ings plays a preseason game and does well, that could change that view).

So my current draft now has Antonio in, instead of Watkins, but Buendia is still there - he’s a great pick now that Grealish seems certain to leave.

[HungryHungrySuarez]

I notice little love for DCL here, but surely with their early fixtures and the doubts around others in the price bracket (Watkins/Ings uncertainty, Antonio's fragility, Iheanacho/Daka dynamic) he's one of the safer bets to start the season? Is it just his perceived limitations in terms of points ceiling that are putting people off, or perhaps the Rafa effect on goal output, especially early doors? At least he's focal in the attack, he's certain to start and his fixtures are great.

[blahblah]

Rafa and he may not be available in GW1. There is plenty of competition at/below his price point, without knowing how Everton are going to play ....

[eastcentral1]

Yeah DCL interests me. Only a few of the mid / cheap strikers are going to be reliable, and the 8.0 slot gives flexibility.

I agree that the change of manager raises some questions. It's not that DCL can't thrive under Rafa, but I suspect he's going to have to do a lot more all round centre forward play, whereas under Ancelotti it was all about being in the box.

[SirMattBugsby]

All good points regarding DCL. I was wondering today why I'm putting guys like Toney and Wilson ahead of him.. and it's mainly down to having Digne already and not wanting to over-commit to Everton early on. Maybe that's one of these psychological biases they talk about: I got a full set

Regarding EC's point, which of these 7-8 fwds is the best all-round player? I'd say Jimenez and Ings tbh, maybe Martial? DCL and Bamford are good but not the best technicians maybe. Followed by Wilson, Antonio, Wood, Nacho and Watkins, although the latter two might prove themselves to be more complete players this season.

[blahblah]

Why consider best all round player when FPL only has Goals and Assists?

[SirMattBugsby]

Why consider best all round player when FPL only has Goals and Assists?

Maybe for ceiling? Which player can brace, is more immune to manager/team change etc. Plus we have to watch the bstrds

[blahblah]

Why consider best all round player when FPL only has Goals and Assists?

Maybe for ceiling? Which player can brace, is more immune to manager/team change etc. Plus we have to watch the bstrds

Yeah, but Wood does well, while being a pants watch?

[SirMattBugsby]

Why consider best all round player when FPL only has Goals and Assists?

Maybe for ceiling? Which player can brace, is more immune to manager/team change etc. Plus we have to watch the bstrds

Yeah, but Wood does well, while being a pants watch?

He does, and usually gets around 130-140 points. Can he get 160+ points? I feel being an actually good player in a good attacking team has a say in that.

It's just a factor, and one which my primitive brain finds much easier to understand than stats and fixtures and talisman theories. Good player, good team + pens=

[Pirlo's Beard]

Yeah DCL interests me.

Me too, but perhaps from GW4 after we've had a little time to observe him in a Benítez team. Ings for wat NEW BRE before a switch to Calvert-Lewin for BUR avl NOR and a wildcard around GW7 or 8 looks good to me.

[ajcairns]

I really quite like the 7-8m bracket with at least 6 viable options this year. I presume a lot of Kane teams will go cheaper but most teams will have one of them throughout. Think I will start with three.

[Hogmeister]

Yeah DCL interests me.

Me too, but perhaps from GW4 after we've had a little time to observe him in a Benítez team. Ings for wat NEW BRE before a switch to Calvert-Lewin for BUR avl NOR and a wildcard around GW7 or 8 looks good to me.

Interesting - I’m currently (just, it’s a close call) leaning the other way, but for the exact same reason… IMO new boy Ings is a bigger uncertainty than DCL under Rafa, especially as Ings may not be (match fitness/tactically) ready for GW1. Given Villa’s fixtures are toxic from GW4, Ings missing GW1 would make him a bad pick. Meanwhile DCL’s fixtures for first 6 or so weeks are great, so he’s a perfectly decent pick for GW1, and that also avoids baking in a transfer for GW4.

I was on DCL/Watkins/Toney until the Ings signing, now DCL/Antonio/Toney.

[Hogmeister]

…and I liked Adam Hopcroft’s take on it on a recent FFH video/podcast - along the lines of… there are ample choices in this bracket and you may as well just flip a coin! Just make sure you have two of them , so that when you come to do the Bruno Kane switch after Kane goes to City, you can just drop the one that has performed the worst.

[blahblah]

My issue is that the perceived weak clubs usually play their best in August (unlike Kane ) so targeting them isn't as effective as later months up until the Relegation Battle goes hardcore and they improve again ....

I'm more inclined to go for new managers, 2 new CB's type of stuff like at Palace.

[blahblah]

…and I liked Adam Hopcroft’s take on it on a recent FFH video/podcast - along the lines of… there are ample choices in this bracket and you may as well just flip a coin! Just make sure you have two of them , so that when you come to do the Bruno Kane switch after Kane goes to City, you can just drop the one that has performed the worst.

I'm going for 3 at DIngs and less price and definitely wait and see about Kane, wherever he is.

[Fuzz]

I’ve currently got DCL, Ings and Iheanacho.

At various points I’ve had Bamford, Watkins, Antonio and Toney is my drafts.

As Hogmeister said, it really is flip a coin.

[SirMattBugsby]

Why doesn't anybody have Wilson?! I don't want to be that differential

Do agree that the price point is more important than the specific choice right now.. but I'm not sure if having two 7.5 spots open will be worthwhile. That's been my apprehension from the start tbh.

[Blue Fire]

Wilson didn't feature in the last two friendlies for Newcastle due to a hamstring problem and hasn't returned to training yet. They play their last pre-season game tomorrow vs Norwich

[SirMattBugsby]

Wilson didn't feature in the last two friendlies for Newcastle due to a hamstring problem and hasn't returned to training yet. They play their last pre-season game tomorrow vs Norwich

Thanks for the info! Wilson's hammies.. and Ings' too.