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Re: Zinchenko

Post by blahblah » 06 Aug 2019, 09:47

And Walker could move inside?

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Re: Zinchenko

Post by Klopp-o-matic » 06 Aug 2019, 10:00

MinimalFuss wrote:
06 Aug 2019, 09:32
Klopp-o-matic wrote:
06 Aug 2019, 09:08
What is the back four likely to look like?

Zinchenko - Laporte - Stones - Walker?

Both Zinchenko and Stones are great picks in that case (price 5.5), regarding the team having 20 cs last season.

Altough Z might be rotated (Mendy). But Stones should play almost every game, shouldn't he? Or is he threatened by Otamendi in any way?
Laporte is the only defender set in stone at Man City.

Otamendi will rotate with Stone,
Zinchenko will rotate with Mendy,
Walker will rotate with Cancelo,

It's what Pep does every year, I don't know why anyone expects different!
Wo fool ourself trying to find the perfect fpl-pick.

However, thx for the answer. Stones is out then, going back to fiddle with my team.

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Zinchenko

Post by Maldini » 06 Aug 2019, 11:46

Cancelo confirmed.


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Re: Zinchenko

Post by snout » 06 Aug 2019, 12:11

The MEN "understand" that Mendy is expected to miss the first couple of games and Mendy himself has said he will be back "soon".

Make of that what you will.

Cancelo is apparently undergoing a medical so could be announced later today.

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Re: Zinchenko

Post by Pirlo's Beard » 06 Aug 2019, 16:04

blahblah wrote:
06 Aug 2019, 09:47
And Walker could move inside?
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Re: Zinchenko

Post by Pulpy » 06 Aug 2019, 17:38

Cancelo is a right sided player but has played left back so could he potentially replace Zinchenko?

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Re: Zinchenko

Post by murf » 06 Aug 2019, 19:00

Pulpy wrote:
06 Aug 2019, 17:38
Cancelo is a right sided player but has played left back so could he potentially replace Zinchenko?
Maybe to get 'practice' but with Zin, Mendy and Angelino I doubt he is earmarked to play there.

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Re: Zinchenko

Post by Njl90 » 07 Aug 2019, 12:22

Not in the first week

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Re: Zinchenko

Post by cymbalrush84 » 07 Aug 2019, 21:46

blahblah wrote:And Walker could move inside?
Pep never afraid to put a 5ft 9in player in at CB (Mascherano) and it makes sense as to filling Kompany's void.

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Re: Zinchenko

Post by Pirlo's Beard » 07 Aug 2019, 22:12

cymbalrush84 wrote:
07 Aug 2019, 21:46
filling Kompany's void.
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Re: Zinchenko

Post by jonhoggy » 07 Aug 2019, 22:22

So is the consensus he a dead pick now or is anyone still starting with Oleksandr Zinchenko ?

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Re: Zinchenko

Post by Stevieste » 07 Aug 2019, 22:36

Zinchencko will defo start the first couple of games

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Re: Zinchenko

Post by math! » 07 Aug 2019, 22:37


Klopp-o-matic wrote:Stones is out then, going back to fiddle with my team.
Ahem. Oh matron.

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Re: Zinchenko

Post by hancockjr » 07 Aug 2019, 22:51

jonhoggy wrote:
07 Aug 2019, 22:22
So is the consensus he a dead pick now or is anyone still starting with Oleksandr Zinchenko ?
Can’t see how you thought that was the consensus.

Man City basically never lost with Zinchenko playing, suspect Pep is aware of those facts.

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Re: Zinchenko

Post by cymbalrush84 » 08 Aug 2019, 00:04

Stevieste wrote:Zinchencko will defo start the first couple of games
Oh matron.

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Re: Zinchenko

Post by murf » 08 Aug 2019, 00:12

hancockjr wrote:
07 Aug 2019, 22:51
Man City basically never lost
Abbreviated your post for you.



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Re: Zinchenko

Post by Stu255 » 08 Aug 2019, 01:24

What’s the chances he starts GW1?

A). 50/50
B). 60%
C). 80%
D). 100%

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Re: Zinchenko

Post by NorthBankRedemption » 08 Aug 2019, 03:11

Is this the only thread discussing Man City? Can't find anything about their midfield situation. Sorry if this is off topic too much.

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Re: Zinchenko

Post by hancockjr » 08 Aug 2019, 07:47

Stu255 wrote:
08 Aug 2019, 01:24
What’s the chances he starts GW1?

A). 50/50
B). 60%
C). 80%
D). 100%
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Re: Zinchenko

Post by Billy Bongo » 08 Aug 2019, 08:03

whu , SPURS, bou

Then Mendy back

How many cs for Zinchenko?



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Re: Zinchenko

Post by Stevieste » 08 Aug 2019, 08:27

Billy Bongo wrote:
08 Aug 2019, 08:03
whu , SPURS, bou

Then Mendy back

How many cs for Zinchenko?



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This is Mendy were talking about, he is always due back and never does and if city keep 3 cleans sheets do you really think he just going to take his place ?

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Re: Zinchenko

Post by Sutter Kane » 08 Aug 2019, 09:16

Man C's CS record is excellent and their defensive underlying numbers are too. However the signing of Cancelo has muddied waters a little (post GW1 probably). Laporte apart I can't really say who'll start GW2 onwards. They also have West Ham away, Spurs home, B'mouth away. They'll be doing very well if they keep 2 cleanies in those - based on last season, the odds would be around 40% for two clean sheets and 15% for 3 clean sheets. I'm think I'm going without a Man C defender pre-WC.

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Re: Zinchenko

Post by jacksosi » 08 Aug 2019, 09:21

As I posted elsewhere... I thought this at the end of last season when they had TOT + mun back to back, and they got two CS...it’s a risky move

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Re: Zinchenko

Post by Sutter Kane » 08 Aug 2019, 09:33

That is always possible. More likely at season end though. Still doesn't take away from the fact Man C claimed 1 in 2 CS last season, not 5 in 6 or something stupid.

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Re: Zinchenko

Post by Sutter Kane » 08 Aug 2019, 09:35

He is only 5.5mn so not exactly that expensive but until GW4, I'm not that interested. He's a set and forget slot which is attractive when money's tight but only if he keeps starting.

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Re: Zinchenko

Post by jonhoggy » 08 Aug 2019, 09:42

hancockjr wrote:
07 Aug 2019, 22:51
jonhoggy wrote:
07 Aug 2019, 22:22
So is the consensus he a dead pick now or is anyone still starting with Oleksandr Zinchenko ?
Can’t see how you thought that was the consensus.

Man City basically never lost with Zinchenko playing, suspect Pep is aware of those facts.
All the talk of the new signing effectively ending any potential run for Ziv. Plus he was poor in the Charity Shield and Pep was going bonkers when Salah was running rings round him. Anyway I've taken him out, if we arent sure, best not to take too many punty picks.

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Re: Zinchenko

Post by Beerfuelledman » 08 Aug 2019, 09:46

MCFC on Reddit @r_MCFC - Sam Lee May 2nd 2019 wrote:
08 Aug 2019, 09:33
City’s decision not to sign a LB isn’t really based on faith in Mendy. The money’s needed elsewhere, Zinchenko is first choice and nobody else would buy Mendy. A LB in January is even on the table. It’s a risk. Bernardo & Kompany have spoken to Mendy too.

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Re: Zinchenko

Post by Sutter Kane » 08 Aug 2019, 09:54

Also to touch up another point above. Man C should have lost at least once with Zinchenko starting. (Liv in the CS being an eg - he's had some bad games imo). It's one of those weird facts. He's not that good! He is a nice set and forget for 5.5mn but it's not a season ruiner if you don't start with him.

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Re: Zinchenko

Post by blahblah » 08 Aug 2019, 10:28

Sutter Kane wrote:
08 Aug 2019, 09:33
That is always possible. More likely at season end though. Still doesn't take away from the fact Man C claimed 1 in 2 CS last season, not 5 in 6 or something stupid.
This is pretty much the point about Big defenders. They are expected to get not much less than 19 CS for the season and with some attacking\save return for me to have them.

However, predicting when and where CS's happen is as difficult as predicting when the average 6-7m Mid will score\assist ie they are involved in 1 in 10 of their team's goal .... (By average I don't mean the OOP bod up top or the season's uber must have)

As an aside I saw a list of top Prem Mids in the summer (MEN when Dilva said last season) and very few of them had a goal\assist rate if higher thsn every other match. Strangely Ozil does with 84 in 162 matches...

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Re: Zinchenko

Post by Mav3rick » 08 Aug 2019, 10:33

blahblah wrote:
08 Aug 2019, 10:28
As an aside I saw a list of top Prem Mids in the summer (MEN when Dilva said last season) and very few of them had a goal\assist rate if higher thsn every other match. Strangely Ozil does with 84 in 162 matches...
Even "safe" players like Sigurdsson blanked 60% of games last season. But, 40% of the time they return all the time so...

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