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Re: Man City Fullbacks (Zinchenko, Cancelo, etc)

Post by Stemania » 09 Aug 2019, 11:45

Assuming Cancelo eventually breaks into the team that price will be criminal!

One for later in the year then.

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Re: Man City Fullbacks (Zinchenko, Cancelo, etc)

Post by xJosh- » 09 Aug 2019, 12:45

I highly doubt City will start playing 3ATB with only 3 genuine CBS to rotate between. I feel like Cancelo will be competing with Walker for his place and occasionally Walker might be deployed as a CB

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Re: Man City Fullbacks (Zinchenko, Cancelo, etc)

Post by Pirlo's Beard » 09 Aug 2019, 12:55

Edwaardz wrote:
09 Aug 2019, 10:32
he seems a fairly erratic, stream of consciousness type player
Does he start reciting Proust in the middle of games or something?

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Re: Man City Fullbacks (Zinchenko, Cancelo, etc)

Post by Stemania » 09 Aug 2019, 14:28

Guardiola:

"Cancelo is not going to play, not yet. Arrived two days ago."
"I think for Kyle it's important to have good competition. Both have to fight for the same position. Cancelo can play on the left as well."

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Re: Zinchenko

Post by poohdini » 09 Aug 2019, 15:57

laguna wrote:
09 Aug 2019, 11:01
poohdini wrote:
08 Aug 2019, 20:37
blahblah wrote:
08 Aug 2019, 18:04
Apparently Cancelo can play both sides and Walker can play CB.....
Cancelo actually got into a fight with his manager when he was asked to play LB during his Inter days. Read it yesterday. He definitely does not like playing there and according to Transfermarkt only played 5 times.
Can you link the source to this?
Yeah: https://theathletic.com/1120842/2019/08 ... e-divorce/
On one occasion he clashed with coach Luciano Spalletti, who wanted him to play left back and did not take well to having his decision questioned. Cancelo also complained at being switched to left back during a game with Napoli.

“There were situations that I did not agree with him,” Cancelo said of the training ground incident in an interview with O Jogo last summer. “It’s normal. A player should not be a prisoner or be quiet. A player does not know everything but neither does a coach. So it is only right to have a calm and healthy face-to-face.”

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Re: Man City Fullbacks (Zinchenko, Cancelo, etc)

Post by blahblah » 09 Aug 2019, 15:59

This could be fun :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: Zinchenko

Post by Pirlo's Beard » 09 Aug 2019, 16:24

poohdini wrote:
09 Aug 2019, 15:57
“A player should not be a prisoner or be quiet. A player does not know everything but neither does a coach.”
"A man cannot make a thing happen before it is time."

I wonder how long before Cancelo shape-shifts into a left-back?

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Re: Zinchenko

Post by SirMattBugsby » 09 Aug 2019, 16:35

Pirlo's Beard wrote:
poohdini wrote:
09 Aug 2019, 15:57
“A player should not be a prisoner or be quiet. A player does not know everything but neither does a coach.”
"A man cannot make a thing happen before it is time."

I wonder how long before Cancelo shape-shifts into a left-back?
Pep: It will be a journey.. ending with sweet rewards of a dream goal.

Cancelo: No, I just wanna run up and down.

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Re: Man City Fullbacks (Zinchenko, Cancelo, etc)

Post by math! » 09 Aug 2019, 17:42

Cancelo was a template RB in FIFA UT because of his pace. I'm not surprised if he just wants to run really really fast.

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Re: Zinchenko

Post by laguna » 09 Aug 2019, 17:46

poohdini wrote:
09 Aug 2019, 15:57
laguna wrote:
09 Aug 2019, 11:01
poohdini wrote:
08 Aug 2019, 20:37
blahblah wrote:
08 Aug 2019, 18:04
Apparently Cancelo can play both sides and Walker can play CB.....
Cancelo actually got into a fight with his manager when he was asked to play LB during his Inter days. Read it yesterday. He definitely does not like playing there and according to Transfermarkt only played 5 times.
Can you link the source to this?
Yeah: https://theathletic.com/1120842/2019/08 ... e-divorce/
On one occasion he clashed with coach Luciano Spalletti, who wanted him to play left back and did not take well to having his decision questioned. Cancelo also complained at being switched to left back during a game with Napoli.

“There were situations that I did not agree with him,” Cancelo said of the training ground incident in an interview with O Jogo last summer. “It’s normal. A player should not be a prisoner or be quiet. A player does not know everything but neither does a coach. So it is only right to have a calm and healthy face-to-face.”
Thanks.

"it's only right to have a calm and healthy face-to-face" :lol:

I guess time will tell how City's defence will pan out.

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Re: Man City Fullbacks (Zinchenko, Cancelo, etc)

Post by escape_to_victory » 10 Aug 2019, 00:34

SirMattBugsby wrote:
escape_to_victory wrote:
snout wrote:I very much doubt he will start ahead of Walker in the first game or two. Pep is a method man and will need some time with Cancelo in training to make sure he knows and understands his instructions.
This. How long do we think this will be? How long a piece of string, I guess. If the stars align Zin as a placeholder for Can could work out quite nicely.


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Cancelo hasn't been bought to play LB. He'll be an attacking RB. Whether that's at the expense of Walker or with Walker at CB (another theory I'm not sure about), remains to be seen.

I presently have Walker and am not too worried about his game time, atleast initially. He's done well pre-season, and it's not like Pep starts new signings instantly. Even someone as talented as Bernardo got a proper chance after one season.

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Yeah I know. Well actually, I don’t haha. No clue ImageBut it’s not what I meant. I only meant that if Cancelo proves to be a long term option in the City defence, then the short-term Zinchenko is a nice placeholder in a fantasy team seeing as they are the same price of 5.5. I’m hoping Cancelo starts to play whilst Zinchenko is still there and I can then make the swap. Tipped the balance for me to go for Zinchenko as a short-term punt


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Re: Man City Fullbacks (Zinchenko, Cancelo, etc)

Post by Stevieste » 16 Aug 2019, 16:13

Guardiola: What I want from Mendy is for him to be fit. To be available for training sessions every week. He’s had almost two years out and he needs to play. The first target is be fit rather than to play. To train regularly for a month then he has a chance to play.

Good news for us Zinchenko owners id say 😁

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Re: Man City Fullbacks (Zinchenko, Cancelo, etc)

Post by math! » 16 Aug 2019, 16:23

Realistically when is Cancelo ever going to be a starter? Walker is doing well. Surely the best is a rotation player? Will he ever be worth having then? I would not be surprised if Pep sprung him on the right wing ahead of Walker but once again he wouldn't be a regular starter.

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Re: Man City Fullbacks (Zinchenko, Cancelo, etc)

Post by DAREEL » 16 Aug 2019, 17:03

Stevieste wrote:
16 Aug 2019, 16:13
Guardiola: What I want from Mendy is for him to be fit. To be available for training sessions every week. He’s had almost two years out and he needs to play. The first target is be fit rather than to play. To train regularly for a month then he has a chance to play.

Good news for us Zinchenko owners id say 😁
Cancelo and Angelino still a threat. Especially near Europe. First time he gets dropped his price will plummet I guess . Danilo too..it's one of the spots very open to rotation and you feel Zinchenko is one bad game away from another getting a chance. I have no doubt he is 1st choice at mo though

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Re: Man City Fullbacks (Zinchenko, Cancelo, etc)

Post by math! » 16 Aug 2019, 17:28

Danilo is at Juventus isn't he?

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Re: Man City Fullbacks (Zinchenko, Cancelo, etc)

Post by Billy Bongo » 16 Aug 2019, 17:28

Danilo has left

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Re: Man City Fullbacks (Zinchenko, Cancelo, etc)

Post by Stevieste » 16 Aug 2019, 18:03

DAREEL wrote:
16 Aug 2019, 17:03
Stevieste wrote:
16 Aug 2019, 16:13
Guardiola: What I want from Mendy is for him to be fit. To be available for training sessions every week. He’s had almost two years out and he needs to play. The first target is be fit rather than to play. To train regularly for a month then he has a chance to play.

Good news for us Zinchenko owners id say 😁
Cancelo and Angelino still a threat. Especially near Europe. First time he gets dropped his price will plummet I guess . Danilo too..it's one of the spots very open to rotation and you feel Zinchenko is one bad game away from another getting a chance. I have no doubt he is 1st choice at mo though
Danilo has left, Cancelo plays right back and Angelino didnt even make the bench last week 🤷‍♂️

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Re: Man City Fullbacks (Zinchenko, Cancelo, etc)

Post by blahblah » 16 Aug 2019, 18:08

Stevieste wrote:
16 Aug 2019, 18:03
DAREEL wrote:
16 Aug 2019, 17:03
Stevieste wrote:
16 Aug 2019, 16:13
Guardiola: What I want from Mendy is for him to be fit. To be available for training sessions every week. He’s had almost two years out and he needs to play. The first target is be fit rather than to play. To train regularly for a month then he has a chance to play.

Good news for us Zinchenko owners id say 😁
Cancelo and Angelino still a threat. Especially near Europe. First time he gets dropped his price will plummet I guess . Danilo too..it's one of the spots very open to rotation and you feel Zinchenko is one bad game away from another getting a chance. I have no doubt he is 1st choice at mo though
Danilo has left, Cancelo plays right back and Angelino didnt even make the bench last week 🤷‍♂️
This is Pep :wink:

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Re: Man City Fullbacks (Zinchenko, Cancelo, etc)

Post by DAREEL » 16 Aug 2019, 18:16

Stevieste wrote:
16 Aug 2019, 18:03
DAREEL wrote:
16 Aug 2019, 17:03
Stevieste wrote:
16 Aug 2019, 16:13
Guardiola: What I want from Mendy is for him to be fit. To be available for training sessions every week. He’s had almost two years out and he needs to play. The first target is be fit rather than to play. To train regularly for a month then he has a chance to play.

Good news for us Zinchenko owners id say 😁
Cancelo and Angelino still a threat. Especially near Europe. First time he gets dropped his price will plummet I guess . Danilo too..it's one of the spots very open to rotation and you feel Zinchenko is one bad game away from another getting a chance. I have no doubt he is 1st choice at mo though
Danilo has left, Cancelo plays right back and Angelino didnt even make the bench last week 🤷‍♂️
Didn't realise Danilo had gone

Cancelo can play both. Pep stated this

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Re: Man City Fullbacks (Zinchenko, Cancelo, etc)

Post by math! » 16 Aug 2019, 19:06

DAREEL wrote:
Stevieste wrote:
16 Aug 2019, 18:03
DAREEL wrote:
16 Aug 2019, 17:03
Stevieste wrote:
16 Aug 2019, 16:13
Guardiola: What I want from Mendy is for him to be fit. To be available for training sessions every week. He’s had almost two years out and he needs to play. The first target is be fit rather than to play. To train regularly for a month then he has a chance to play.

Good news for us Zinchenko owners id say Image
Cancelo and Angelino still a threat. Especially near Europe. First time he gets dropped his price will plummet I guess . Danilo too..it's one of the spots very open to rotation and you feel Zinchenko is one bad game away from another getting a chance. I have no doubt he is 1st choice at mo though
Danilo has left, Cancelo plays right back and Angelino didnt even make the bench last week Image
Didn't realise Danilo had gone

Cancelo can play both. Pep stated this
Danilo went to Juve when Cancelo went from Juve to Man City. Wasn't a swap deal though. I'm looking forward to seeing him run up and down. He's incredibly quick.

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Re: Man City Fullbacks (Zinchenko, Cancelo, etc)

Post by SirMattBugsby » 16 Aug 2019, 19:22

Why do 5 people have to tell the same thing?
Both Zinchenko and Walker are okay for now imo.

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Re: Man City Fullbacks (Zinchenko, Cancelo, etc)

Post by Stevieste » 18 Aug 2019, 08:37

Anyone who has Zinchecko ive just seen a video of him saying he just had cramp at the end of the game and he is fine.

So will keep him personally for another couple of week as planned

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Re: Man City Fullbacks (Zinchenko, Cancelo, etc)

Post by bcfc1903 » 18 Aug 2019, 10:44

Laporte the obvious and safest route in to the Manchester City defence, I still assume. Looking at their next 9 games, with 5 at home my coverage of City (only KDB) needs increasing.

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Re: Man City Fullbacks (Zinchenko, Cancelo, etc)

Post by Panserjohan » 18 Aug 2019, 20:23

I've seen cancelo quite a bit in serieA, and he is a treat to Walker. I think he played on the left 5-6 times i Juve. On the right, he is spectacular. Maybe one of the best right backs in the world.

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Re: Man City Fullbacks (Zinchenko, Cancelo, etc)

Post by math! » 18 Aug 2019, 23:11

Panserjohan wrote:I've seen cancelo quite a bit in serieA, and he is a treat to Walker. I think he played on the left 5-6 times i Juve. On the right, he is spectacular. Maybe one of the best right backs in the world.
Why would they sell him?

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Re: Man City Fullbacks (Zinchenko, Cancelo, etc)

Post by Panserjohan » 19 Aug 2019, 13:27

math! wrote:
18 Aug 2019, 23:11
Panserjohan wrote:I've seen cancelo quite a bit in serieA, and he is a treat to Walker. I think he played on the left 5-6 times i Juve. On the right, he is spectacular. Maybe one of the best right backs in the world.
Why would they sell him?

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Juve need money (FFP), and Danilo will sufice in Serie A.

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Re: Man City Fullbacks (Zinchenko, Cancelo, etc)

Post by blahblah » 20 Aug 2019, 07:14

That was my understanding too, and maybe skint hence giving Kean away to Everton with no buy back price set.

But now they gave bid 100m plus Dybala, allegedly....

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