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Chelsea Mids/Atts

Post by Stemania » 28 Jun 2019, 10:58

I have Chelsea down as pretty much the most interesting/unknown fantasy team this year. :)

It's incredible to see a (notionally!) top 4-6 side have no players at all priced above 7m in FPL! I can't recall that happening in a long long while, but it's a current post-Hazard reality.

A new manager on the way (presumed to be Lampard), but a transfer ban severely limits the chance of players coming in above that 7m mark. Pulisic appears far and away the most likely, but he's a huge unknown right now. Of course, there are the likes of Abraham, Batshuayi, Mason Mount, Kovacic and Bakayoko that are yet to be priced and could well end up staying upon return from loans, but none seem particularly likely to come in over 7m. Morata if he makes an unlikely return perhaps?

But whatever happens, there's got to be some gems there surely. Could Barkley at 6m and/or Mount get an advanced central role under Lampard if he comes, and could Willian at 7m take over the LW role from Hazard on a permanent basis and retain some set pieces?

So, who, if anyone, have you got your eye on? Or are they simply the biggest 'wait and see' of all?

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Re: Chelsea Mids/Atts

Post by rootcoors » 28 Jun 2019, 11:00

Surely it's time for the likes of Odi to shine (not sure when he's due back), but for 6.0m if he gets regular starts. Also interested to see what Abraham comes in at, Giroud for 7.0m doesn't interest me, but if Abraham is cheaper then could be an interesting option if he starts and shoes the same form of last season.

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Re: Chelsea Mids/Atts

Post by carver » 28 Jun 2019, 11:10

Willian presumably on pens. Possibly Jorginho too if he starts under the new manager .

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Re: Chelsea Mids/Atts

Post by Aldershot Rejects » 28 Jun 2019, 11:52

carver wrote:
28 Jun 2019, 11:10
Willian presumably on pens. Possibly Jorginho too if he starts under the new manager .
I read somewhere (can't remember where) that Jorginho might be on penalties. He may well be in my squad anyway.

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Re: Chelsea Mids/Atts

Post by Zimmerman » 28 Jun 2019, 12:13

He might also be in Turin.

5 goals in 9 years suggests he’s never been a regular penalty taker before?

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Post by Finisher1 » 28 Jun 2019, 13:03

Zimmerman wrote:
28 Jun 2019, 12:13
5 goals in 9 years suggests he’s never been a regular penalty taker before?
Last season he was Chelsea's penalty taker whenever Hazard wasn't on the field.

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Post by Patrician » 28 Jun 2019, 13:38

Sounds like Alonso might be off this summer, but if not, I suspect he is a steal at 6.5M. Value must emerge, but from who I also have no idea!

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Re: Chelsea Mids/Atts

Post by Zimmerman » 28 Jun 2019, 13:58

Finisher1 wrote:
28 Jun 2019, 13:03
Zimmerman wrote:
28 Jun 2019, 12:13
5 goals in 9 years suggests he’s never been a regular penalty taker before?
Last season he was Chelsea's penalty taker whenever Hazard wasn't on the field.
Fair point (although that was once).
He did take 3 in their respective shootouts too (scoring 2/3).

On another note, Chelsea got 8 pens across all comps last season.

Hazard scored 5/5
Jorginho scored 1/1
Willian 1/1
Fabregas 0/1

Is 8 low (presumably they must have played about. 60 games last season).

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Post by cymbalrush84 » 28 Jun 2019, 21:11

Stemania wrote:I have Chelsea down as pretty much the most interesting/unknown fantasy team this year. :)

It's incredible to see a (notionally!) top 4-6 side have no players at all priced above 7m in FPL! I can't recall that happening in a long long while, but it's a current post-Hazard reality.

A new manager on the way (presumed to be Lampard), but a transfer ban severely limits the chance of players coming in above that 7m mark. Pulisic appears far and away the most likely, but he's a huge unknown right now. Of course, there are the likes of Abraham, Batshuayi, Mason Mount, Kovacic and Bakayoko that are yet to be priced and could well end up staying upon return from loans, but none seem particularly likely to come in over 7m. Morata if he makes an unlikely return perhaps?

But whatever happens, there's got to be some gems there surely. Could Barkley at 6m and/or Mount get an advanced central role under Lampard if he comes, and could Willian at 7m take over the LW role from Hazard on a permanent basis and retain some set pieces?

So, who, if anyone, have you got your eye on? Or are they simply the biggest 'wait and see' of all?
Wait and see on the manager and his plans on the kids. I'd consider Pedro over Willian if they're looking good pre-season.

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Re: Chelsea Mids/Atts

Post by bigcliff2 » 29 Jun 2019, 15:18

Loftus-Cheek was good in the latter part of last season. I could see him having a good season at 6.5. Unfortunately he seems to be injured at the moment.

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Post by cesc408 » 29 Jun 2019, 16:37

Willian at 7m has to be an option at some point

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Post by Le Red » 29 Jun 2019, 17:42

Wait and see is the only reasonable approach with Chelsea.
There'll be players worth having, but only time will tell.

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Post by marxist » 29 Jun 2019, 20:14

Willian's definitely worth a look.

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Re: Chelsea Mids/Atts

Post by forestfan » 29 Jun 2019, 20:40

Maybe they just won’t be a top 6 team?

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Post by itslikebrandnew » 29 Jun 2019, 20:46

I'm not sure it matters if they finish top 6 or not. There's a few really cheap mids and i would have thought at least one is going to outscore his valuation.

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Post by Spinynorman » 29 Jun 2019, 20:49

Willian always looks better than he really might be but I have him in my team at the moment.

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Post by chris2k_11 » 30 Jun 2019, 15:15

i think willian or pedro will be rotate but not sure if lampard (new mgr)?? will play them together ....

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Post by Zimmerman » 01 Jul 2019, 08:18

The reason they were previously rotated was Hazard. That ‘issue’ no longer exists.

If Hudson Odoi is fit, that might change things.

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Post by Pirlo's Beard » 01 Jul 2019, 10:40

Zimmerman wrote:
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The reason they were previously rotated was Hazard. That ‘issue’ no longer exists.
True. But it's been replaced by the 'issue' of Pulisic.

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Re: Chelsea Mids/Atts

Post by Zimmerman » 01 Jul 2019, 13:10

Oh yes 🤣 forgot about him!!!

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Post by chris2k_11 » 01 Jul 2019, 14:50

not sure if pulisic will be playing hazard position ..... and guess his price will be 7.0 - 8.0 ??

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Post by Mav3rick » 01 Jul 2019, 20:44

If Lampard gets the job, I could potentially see betting on Willian or Pedro for an initial Lampard bounce. If Lampard does what's sensible (and listens to the offer but politely declines the job), then I would be a wait and see as there's just too many risks. I don't think the transfer ban is a big issue as they can create that siege mentality, it's just how long that can last and how well the younger players do without Hazard.

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Re: Chelsea Mids/Atts

Post by Zimmerman » 01 Jul 2019, 20:58

when does this ban take effect... plenty of activity managed so far from them.

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Post by hancockjr » 01 Jul 2019, 21:12

What activity? Pulisic was signed in January, for instance.

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Post by Stevieste » 01 Jul 2019, 21:47

Zimmerman wrote:
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when does this ban take effect... plenty of activity managed so far from them.
The ban is already in affect and thats why there only allowed to sign players who were currently on loan with them and like said above Pulsic was already signed before the ban

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Re: Chelsea Mids/Atts

Post by Vid » 01 Jul 2019, 21:55

Kovacic signed from loan.

Would definitely be interesting if Frank said 'thanks, but no thanks', but it has to be the job that he wants and better to take it whilst on offer than to pass it up and not get another shot for 10-20 years, if at all.

Just needs to see this season out and show well, but not brilliantly and will probably get half a billion to spend next summer.

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Re: Chelsea Mids/Atts

Post by Zimmerman » 02 Jul 2019, 11:25

hancockjr wrote:
01 Jul 2019, 21:12
What activity? Pulisic was signed in January, for instance.
Kovacic coming in (appreciate others saying he was on loan last season... seems a bit of a flaw in the ban to me; maybe the option to buy was already in that deal).

Hazard
Aina
Kalas
Eduardo all leaving the club.

Is the ban only on incoming players?

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Post by DavidLloydIsAHero » 02 Jul 2019, 12:36

Zimmerman wrote:
02 Jul 2019, 11:25
hancockjr wrote:
01 Jul 2019, 21:12
What activity? Pulisic was signed in January, for instance.
Kovacic coming in (appreciate others saying he was on loan last season... seems a bit of a flaw in the ban to me; maybe the option to buy was already in that deal).

Hazard
Aina
Kalas
Eduardo all leaving the club.

Is the ban only on incoming players?
I wish

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Re: Chelsea Mids/Atts

Post by Stemania » 02 Jul 2019, 17:41

Pulisic in at 7.5m.

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Re: Chelsea Mids/Atts

Post by Stemania » 04 Jul 2019, 09:14

Lampard confirmed.

I wonder who gets the striker spot for Chelsea under what will presumably be Lamp's usual 433/451.

There's got to be a gem in there somewhere among Abraham, Batshuayi, Giroud or Pedro (assuming Morata doesn't return)!

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