TFF/FPL Combo Cup - 2011/12

[grob]

Although I appreciated all your telegrams and bouquets following my victory over Nedved, please no more fuss.

I think it was just too cold for him,he was shivering throughout both legs - it can't just have been nerves I'm sure.

[Deppy]

Well played Mintman, you were very unlucky. .6 loss.

[Jonathan]

aha!

I see it took you all of 2 minutes to get that comment in, Jonathan!

Sigh... not content with making comments about how Reading's new-found wealth is so far only allowing us to buy up QPR rejects, you're now gloating that you've knocked me out of the cup. Oh well... well done, and good luck in the next round.

You can get your own back in Wales! But thanks all the same.

[hancockjr]

When is the draw for the next round?

[Surprised]

When is the draw for the next round?

I'll do it tomorrow night after the rugby

[hancockjr]

Excellent - great comp by the way.

[Surprised]

Thanks

[Mintman]

Well played Mintman, you were very unlucky. .6 loss.

Indeed!! A very close match. Last minute transfers in of VDV and VP cost me, as I had armband on Dempsey until I brought in VDV and had the clever idea of captaining him!! Just the lastest in a long line of bad judgement with my FPL team this season!! Well played and good luck in the next round!! Although judging by your performance this season, I don't think you need anymore help!!!

[Surprised]

Quarter Final draw

The draw took place today in a bitterly cold and snow covered Amsterdam

grob vs Richt

Matty B vs Jonathan

Deppy vs tenpinterry

hancockjr vs Trickster1

[grob]

Thanks,Surprised. I take it this will be 2 legs over GW25 & GW26 (it says probably on page 1)

[Surprised]

Thanks,Surprised. I take it this will be 2 legs over GW25 & GW26 (it says probably on page 1)

That is the aim unless the weather plays a major role

[tenpinterry]

Well played Mintman, you were very unlucky. .6 loss.

Quarter Final draw: Deppy vs tenpinterry


You took out one Assassin Deppy, be wary (I hope not!) of another one sneaking up behind you

[Surprised]

Quarter Final
1st Leg

The 1st leg sees Jonathan with a mountain to climb to overturn a huge 53.4 point deficit. His opponent. MattyB, will still harbour hopes of a historic cup and League double.
Deppy's hopes of the double have been hit hard after a heavy 1st leg home defeat to tenpinterry.
Richt takes a useful lead into the home leg against grob and hancockjr and Trickster1 are neck and neck.

[Jonathan]

Quarter Final
1st Leg

The 1st leg sees Jonathan with a mountain to climb to overturn a huge 53.4 point deficit. His opponent. MattyB, will still harbour hopes of a historic cup and League double.

I think sometimes you say more by saying nothing at all

[tenpinterry]

Surprised, am I correct in my assumption that this weekends FA Cup games do NOT contribute to the TFF points total for GW26?

[Surprised]

Surprised, am I correct in my assumption that this weekends FA Cup games do NOT contribute to the TFF points total for GW26?

I think FA cup games do count in TFF so will be part of the GW26 cup points.

[tenpinterry]

Surprised, am I correct in my assumption that this weekends FA Cup games do NOT contribute to the TFF points total for GW26?

I think FA cup games do count in TFF so will be part of the GW26 cup points.

That's fine. I was aware that cup games score in TFF. My question was poorly put. What I meant was:

"GW26 refers to FPL not TFF (which is currently in wk 28 when the cup games are being played). GW26 (FPL) embraces wk 29 of TFF. This means that the Q-Finals will include 1 week of FPL and 2 weeks of TFF"

I've probably confused you even more now

[Deppy]

Surprised, am I correct in my assumption that this weekends FA Cup games do NOT contribute to the TFF points total for GW26?

I think FA cup games do count in TFF so will be part of the GW26 cup points.

That's fine. I was aware that cup games score in TFF. My question was poorly put. What I meant was:

"GW26 refers to FPL not TFF (which is currently in wk 28 when the cup games are being played). GW26 (FPL) embraces wk 29 of TFF. This means that the Q-Finals will include 1 week of FPL and 2 weeks of TFF"

I've probably confused you even more now

I wouldn't worry about it your already through. Had a shocker
Well played and good luck in the next round

[Surprised]

Surprised, am I correct in my assumption that this weekends FA Cup games do NOT contribute to the TFF points total for GW26?

I think FA cup games do count in TFF so will be part of the GW26 cup points.

That's fine. I was aware that cup games score in TFF. My question was poorly put. What I meant was:

"GW26 refers to FPL not TFF (which is currently in wk 28 when the cup games are being played). GW26 (FPL) embraces wk 29 of TFF. This means that the Q-Finals will include 1 week of FPL and 2 weeks of TFF"

I've probably confused you even more now

The scores from TFF will only be the points scored within the timeline of GW26 in FPL so 21st Feb to 27th Feb.
This weekends games will contribute to the league but not the cup.
It's a problem i didn't forsee so am happy for people to come up with ideas to make it fair.

[hancockjr]

My thoughts:

It's sensible to take gameweeks from FPL, as it can be hard to get the info mid gameweek and it's against the principle of FPL to split a gameweek any.

The TFF scores should therefore be taken to match this, hence "TFF gameweek 25" is still on and will be supplemented by the FA cup scores.

Anything else will need you to sit down and define gameweeks, and maybe have to re-adjust if the games get re-arranged.

It's also in the spirit of a combo comp. The hardest thing of all in managing both competitions is the FA cup. We are getting to the stage of the season where in TFF you only want players in the FA cup, as you lose games otherwise, whereas soon in FPL you'll want to avoid FA players as they will be missing gameweeks. Taking the FA cup out of the equation ruins all that.

[Surprised]

My thoughts:

It's sensible to take gameweeks from FPL, as it can be hard to get the info mid gameweek and it's against the principle of FPL to split a gameweek any.

The TFF scores should therefore be taken to match this, hence "TFF gameweek 25" is still on and will be supplemented by the FA cup scores.

Anything else will need you to sit down and define gameweeks, and maybe have to re-adjust if the games get re-arranged.

It's also in the spirit of a combo comp. The hardest thing of all in managing both competitions is the FA cup. We are getting to the stage of the season where in TFF you only want players in the FA cup, as you lose games otherwise, whereas soon in FPL you'll want to avoid FA players as they will be missing gameweeks. Taking the FA cup out of the equation ruins all that.

So you suggest that the points in TFF from Tuesday night (14 feb) to next monday( GW 26 starts Tuesday) should be in GW25?

Games with different gameweeks makes a combined cup quite tricky!!

[hancockjr]

yes

[Surprised]

Ok with me.
i just want it to be fair to all in the cup

[Jonathan]

Happy either way, says the man with a deficit to make up as big as Arsenal's (relatively speaking!)

[tenpinterry]

No problem with me, I only wanted to know what counted. Suggest you (officially) restate what games are now included before 1st kick-off on Saturday and issue an updated 1st leg results on Tuesday.

Hope me raising this doesn't come back to bite my bum

[Matty B]

not fussed either way. The more games included the better the chance of someone making up a gap imo which may make it more interesting.

[Jonathan]

not fussed either way. The more games included the better the chance of someone making up a gap imo which may make it more interesting.

Include them!

[Surprised]

I will include all FA cup games on 18th and 19th Feb in GW25. There are no more games until Feb 25 and this will be GW26.
The amended 1st leg will be posted Tuesday/Wednesday nest week.
It seems only fair to include the FA cup games in the TFF/FPL cup.
Maybe in hindsight I would have staged the cup rounds in weeks when the FA Cup was not on to make it more straightforward.

Apologies for the confusion and I hope it hasn't ruined the cup for any of you.

[Matty B]

don't be mad surprised - you are doing a great job with both the cup and the league !

[Deppy]

Cannot see me pulling off a miracle anyway. Time to concentrate on the league