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PostPosted: 02 Jul 2009, 11:40 
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This movies world cup has got me thinking about what the greatest films ever are. Here are my favourite 100, in order. From this list are there any suggestions for what else I should see? Feel free to agree with/disagree with/ridicule my list. :)

1. Star Wars: Attack of the Clones
2. Star Wars: Return of the Jedi
3. Star Wars: A New Hope
4. Star Wars: The Phantom Menace
5. Star Wars: Revenge of the Sith
6. Star Wars: The Empire Strikes Back
7. Ben Hur
8. Dark City
9. The Fifth Element
10. The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers
11. The Chronicles of Narnia: The Voyage of the Dawn Treader
12. The Matrix
12. American Beauty
14. Aliens
15. Dune
16. Labyrinth
17. The Ring
18. Starship Troopers
19. AI: Artificial Intelligence
20. Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl
21. The Others
22. Alien
23. Back to the Future 2
24. The Sixth Sense
25. Empire of the Sun
26. The Miracle Maker
27. The Lord of the Rings: Return of the King
28. Jurassic Park
29. The Chronicles of Narnia: Prince Caspian
30. The Shawshank Redemption
31. Star Trek
32. The Ring 2
33. The Chronicles of Narnia: The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe
34. Toy Story
35. A Beautiful Mind
36. Star Wars: The Clone Wars
37. Unbreakable
38. Toy Story 2
39. Back to the Future
40. Blade Runner
41. Twelve Monkeys
42. Forrest Gump
43. The Neverending Story
44. The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring
45. Eternal Sunshine of a Spotless Mind
46. Watchmen
47. The Matrix Revolutions
48. The Matrix Reloaded
49. Raiders of the Lost Ark
50. Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade
51. Jurassic Park 3
52. V for Vendetta
53. Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End
54. Dark Water
55. What Lies Beneath
56. National Treasure
57. Flight of the Navigator
58. Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure
59. The Goonies
60. The Green Mile
61. The Village
62. Bruce Almighty
63. Top Gun
64. Spartacus
65. Star Trek: Insurrection
66. Gladiator
67. Star Trek: First Contact
68. Ocean's Eleven
69. Donnie Darko
70. Finding Nemo
71. Irresistable
72. The A-Team
73. Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull
74. Star Trek: Nemesis
75. Pitch Black
76. Signs
77. Independence Day
78. Rollerball
79. Tron: Legacy
80. Alien vs. Predator
81. Minority Report
82. Final Destination
83. Being John Malkovich
84. Final Destination 2
85. Terminator 2: Judgement Day
86. Scream
87. Men in Black
88. Monty Python and the Quest for the Holy Grail
89. Hollow Man
90. Scream 3
91. Scream 2
92. Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest
93. Fight Club
94. Memento
95. City of God
96. I Am Legend
97. The X-Files
98. Pan's Labyrinth
99. The Terminal
100. Man on the Moon


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PostPosted: 02 Jul 2009, 19:14 
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lol my thoughts exactly, i can only assume that he has only seen 100 films and thats them.....even then i shant get into the order


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Number 76 looks like a good one. :)


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from the top of my head my top 20, only 6 appear in your list!! Wheres Pulp Fiction??

1.Pulp Fiction
2.Terminator 2
3.Human Traffic
4.Seven
5.Fight Club
6.Back to the future 2
7.Snatch
8.The Usual Suspects
9.American Psycho
10.Die Hard
11.Blade
12.Donnie Darko
13.The Last King of Scotland
14.The Goonies
15.The Dark Knight
16.The Orphanage
17.Lock Stock
18.40 Year Old Virgin
19.Vanilla Sky
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PostPosted: 03 Jul 2009, 00:59 
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WHATEVER wrote:
1. Star Wars: Attack of the Clones


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Some good movies there.
You are clearly a Star Wars fan!
Surprised to see no Space Odeyssey listed and where is Lock,Stock and Two Smoking Barrels, Pulp Fiction?


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PostPosted: 03 Jul 2009, 11:08 
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:shock: :D

You've got some good films in there, but a strange list indeed, particularly the ordering!

You're obviously a Star Wars fan, but strangely you've ranked arguably the best of the series (Empire) the lowest :? . I enjoyed the original 3 Star Wars films but there's no way that the more recent 3 should be top of any list. And I didn't even know that there was a 7th Star Wars film (Clone Wars), which is apparently the 35th best film of all time, so thanks for making me aware of that at least. :D

I'm assuming that you must be quite young as most of the films in your list are fairly recent with the exception of Ben Hur at number 7 :shock:

Off the top of my head here are a 20 classic films (in no particular order) that I don't think you've included (apologies if I missed any of them) but would definitely be in my top 100 list.

2001 a Space Odysee (particularly surprised you didn't have this as you seem to be a sci-fi fan)
The Godfather
The Godfather 2
Goodfellas
Taxi Driver
Jaws
Psycho
Silence of the Lambs
The Shining
One Flew Over the Cuckoos Nest
The Graduate
Braveheart
Platoon
Pulp Fiction
Shrek
King Kong (original)
The Wizard of Oz
Life of Brian
Trainspotting
Slumdog Millionaire


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Art Vandelay wrote:
WHATEVER wrote:
1. Star Wars: Attack of the Clones


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They think it's all Yoda. It is now!

Regarding my ordering of the star wars films I think star wars is at its best when all is cheerful and light and things are going well for the goodies! I rate the new films highly mainly because the sword fight are finally at proper speed because they are not all be fought by kids and old men. The lack of big space battles in the news films are disapointing though. Greatest Star Wars moment are the assult on the 2nd death star and the lightsabre fight between Yoda and Dooku

I had to restrain myself not to have Ewoks Caravan of Courage or The Star Wars Holiday Special on the list.


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PostPosted: 03 Jul 2009, 16:16 
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johnF wrote:
I'm assuming that you must be quite young as most of the films in your list are fairly recent with the exception of Ben Hur at number 7 :shock:


I'm 30.

johnF wrote:
Off the top of my head here are a 20 classic films (in no particular order) that I don't think you've included (apologies if I missed any of them) but would definitely be in my top 100 list.


2001 - don't understand why this is so highly rated. Not a lot happens
The Godfather and The Godfather 2 - I don't normally enjoy gangster films or 18 certificates but these come so highly reccommended I must get around to watching them.
Jaws - Good, but not top 100.
Psycho - Ok but humourless
Silence of the Lambs/The Shining/Goodfellas/Taxi Driver/Trainspotting - I don't watch a lot of 18s, don't usually enjoy them.
One Flew Over the Cuckoos Nest - never heard of it!
The Graduate - Very disappointing
Braveheart - Superb, in top 110
Platoon - don't watch war movies much but might give it a go
Pulp Fiction - not a Tarantino fan but you lot seem to think I should see this!
Shrek - It's OK
King Kong (original) - dreadful FX, sorry no extra marks for being really old :)
The Wizard of Oz/Life of Brian - Good but not great
Slumdog Millionaire - First half would be in the top 100, second half is naff.


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WHATEVER wrote:

2001 - don't understand why this is so highly rated. Not a lot happens
Psycho - Ok but humourless
One Flew Over the Cuckoos Nest - never heard of it!
King Kong (original) - dreadful FX, sorry no extra marks for being really old :)



It was a poxy journey home but this has made my day. These quotes in particular are priceless. :mrgreen:


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Silence of the Lambs/The Shining/Goodfellas/Taxi Driver/Trainspotting - I don't watch a lot of 18s, don't usually enjoy them.

I'm guessing your not a big fan of 'Saving Ryans Privates' then? :?


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djnuttie wrote:
WHATEVER wrote:
Silence of the Lambs/The Shining/Goodfellas/Taxi Driver/Trainspotting - I don't watch a lot of 18s, don't usually enjoy them.

I'm guessing your not a big fan of 'Saving Ryans Privates' then? :?



you mean Shaving Ryan's Privates :wink:


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barry wrote:
djnuttie wrote:
WHATEVER wrote:
Silence of the Lambs/The Shining/Goodfellas/Taxi Driver/Trainspotting - I don't watch a lot of 18s, don't usually enjoy them.

I'm guessing your not a big fan of 'Saving Ryans Privates' then? :?



you mean Shaving Ryan's Privates :wink:


My top ten all time movies -

1 Grinding Nemo
2 Riding Miss Daisy
3 A midsummer night's cream
4 National Lampoon's Masturbation
5 Eyes Wide Slut
6 Pump Fiction
7 Saturday Night Beaver
8 Hairy eff and the bedroom of secrets
9 Porn on the fourth of July
10 40 gays and 40 dykes

whatever, you seen any of those?

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djnuttie wrote:
whatever, you seen any of those?


No.


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Whatever - there are some great films in your list, but that's hardly surprising, since any list of 100 films is likely to throw up some great films. Given that you're only 30, and you've never heard of One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest, suggests to me that Merlins Apprentice may be right - that you've seen 100 films, or let's say 150, and you've now put the best of them in order. For that reason I think very long lists of favourites are pretty meaningless. A Top 10 would tell us more about you and your tastes.

But if we look at your Top 10, six of them are the Star Wars franchise, which to me suggests a lack of discrimination. It's a bit like asking someone to list their Top 10 football players of all time, and their list contains six Everton players. So I'm guessing you're more of a Star Wars fan than a film connoisseur, as such (especially as you say "I don't watch a lot of 18s", which artificially cuts you off from many great films that most unflinchingly confront the extremes of human experience).There's nothing wrong with that, of course - I suspect there are only one or two real film connoisseurs on this forum (and I'm not one of them).

I'm sure if I posted my Top 100 someone else would pull it apart!


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PostPosted: 04 Jul 2009, 23:17 
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Agree with above, your list reads like the first one hundred films that you've seen in order of merit.

The following selections do make me consider the possibility that your original post is simply a wind up;

28. The Chronicles of Narnia: Prince Caspian
35. Star Wars: The Clone Wars
42. The Neverending Story
46. The Matrix Reloaded
51. Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End
54. National Treasure
59. The Village
60. Bruce Almighty
68. Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull
69. Star Trek: Nemesis
74. Alien vs. Predator
77. Final Destination
79. Final Destination 2
85. Scream 3
86. Scream 2
87. Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest
90. I Am Legend
94. National Treasure: Book of Secrets
95. The Happening
99. Robin Hood Prince of Thieves


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I liked The Village!


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In Whatever's support - the only thing I've learned from the Movies world cup is that everyone else's opinions on films are wrong :P

if you liked I am legend you should watch 28 days later.
if you liked neverendingstory you should watch The Princess Bride.
if you liked The dark knight you should watch Batman Begins
Everyone should watch Stand by me. 8-)


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I liked The Village!


:lol:

Better not post your top 100 then :wink: . I loved 'The Village' right up to the moment that the 'twist' was revealed, everything after that seemed like a real waste of what had gone before IMO.

'The Village' averages 6.6 on IMDb by the way, which would suggest that it's a bit of an 'acquired' taste at best (and probably wouldn't make most people's top 100). By the by I haven't actually seen the other M. Night Shyamalan flick that was highlighted in my previous post ('The Happening') but as it's been pretty much universally slated (Whatever's top 100 list is the first positive mention I've ever seen it receive) and only averages 5.2 on IMDb I feel pretty comfortable stating that it shouldn't get anywhere near a top 100 list (unless of course it's a list of the worst 100 flicks made in the last ten years :wink: )...


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Barry - It's annoying when you see films that you think are brilliant get knocked out in the early rounds, but if we all liked the same films it would be very boring.

Razorback - the twist in The Village was silly and really let it down, but there was enough in the film as a whole to make it enjoyable and definitely worth watching.


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Barry - It's annoying when you see films that you think are brilliant get knocked out in the early rounds, but if we all liked the same films it would be very boring.

Most of the time that has happened simply because not a lot of people have seen them or the movies in question have been up against some stiff competition (the MWC category format wouldn't have worked IMO if we were trying to identify FISO's top 100 flicks).

But you just have to accept that on some occasions you see something special in a particular movie that the majority of others can't. As you say it would be extremely boring if we all liked exactly the same things.

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Razorback - the twist in The Village was silly and really let it down, but there was enough in the film as a whole to make it enjoyable and definitely worth watching.

If the first half of that movie hadn't been as good as it was, it would have be a lot easier to accept the second half. Personally I thought that the twist was weak, tasteless and slightly offensive to the audience, had I gone to the cinema to see it I would have given serious consideration to asking for a refund...


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Barry - It's annoying when you see films that you think are brilliant get knocked out in the early rounds, but if we all liked the same films it would be very boring.



barry wrote:
the only thing I've learned from the Movies world cup is that everyone else's opinions on films are wrong :P


so you agree with me then :wink:


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barry wrote:
In Whatever's support - the only thing I've learned from the Movies world cup is that everyone else's opinions on films are wrong :P

if you liked I am legend you should watch 28 days later.
if you liked neverendingstory you should watch The Princess Bride.
if you liked The dark knight you should watch Batman Begins
Everyone should watch Stand by me. 8-)

Assuming the list is genuine then kudos to Whatever for posting it 8-) and I doubt that any of us could post a top 100 list without others being able to pick holes in it.

P.S Am I wrong to think that due to the high number of boxed sets in this list that Whatever's been taking advantage of the discounted DVD prices available at HMV, Amazon & Play :?: :wink: ...


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Gotta say there are some shocking inclusions in that list !

My top 11 in no particular order simply must include

Scarface
Godfather 1
Godfather 2
Godfather 3
Con Air
Face Off
Casino
Braveheart
Silence of the Lambs
Lock Stock
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Your Top 11? What's that, 3-5-2 with Scarface in goal? :wink:


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I'm not sure I could list a top 100.

I often watch films that I've seen before, and nearly always wonder why I thought it so good before or even find myself liking something that I'd dismissed previously. Today's top 100 would probably only contain 75 of last year's.

Recently, I saw American Beauty again after thinking it rather cliched and rather mainstream. This time I loved it (or at least the first hour), I missed the brilliant writing, camerawork and acting before. Maybe I've just matured as a viewer, or maybe I was pissed when I saw it last!!

That said, I've seen about 75 of Whatever's list and would probably have 10 of them in my 100 (this year)!


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I totally agree with what Spencer says about the difficulty of compiling lists

I too thought American Beauty was even better the second time I saw it. Other films work the other way: I saw Badlands for the second time recently and wondered why I'd thought it was so brilliant (although it's still a very good film).

American Beauty would definitely be in my Top 10, but then so too would about 50 other films :lol:


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whateever, you need a couple of cinema classics in there, the third man a black and white frenchy, then once you are percieved as a cinema buff, I'm sure everyone will be more forgiving :wink:


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Billy Whiz wrote:
Merlins Apprentice may be right - that you've seen 100 films, or let's say 150, and you've now put the best of them in order.


I must have seen at least a couple of new films a week for the last 15 or 20 years. What's that? 1500? I must have more than 150 on video recorded off the TV! :lol:


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But if we look at your Top 10, six of them are the Star Wars franchise, which to me suggests a lack of discrimination.


Yes, I'm biassed towards Star Wars films particually A New Hope hundreds of times as a used to get up at 6AM often to watch it when I was at primary school.

I'm also biassed towards films with Christian allegory. e.g. Star Wars, Ben Hur, Dark City, Lord of the Rings, The Matrix(es), The Miracle Maker, The Chronicles of Narnia, Bruce Almighty, Signs, Finding Nemo

And biassed against films with graphic violence or sex if I think they are not necessary to the film.

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So I'm guessing you're more of a Star Wars fan than a film connoisseur,


Definatly. I had great fun compiling that list, but as you have shown it is extremely subjective based on nothing but what I like to watch. I recognise the moviemaking quality of say The Dark Knight is brilliant but I just didn't enjoy the story enough to rate it higher.

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(especially as you say "I don't watch a lot of 18s", which artificially cuts you off from many great films that most unflinchingly confront the extremes of human experience)


Cut off, sure, but not artificially. I have watched enough 18 films to know that I usually do not enjoy them and would rather watch something else. Seven is a prime example. I watched that and could see why it came so highly reccommended but films about serial killers just don't grab me. :)


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