Would have not got the 4 points for the clean sheet had the penalties been scored...

Where do you get 9.5 from? Is that the sale values of each or (badly added up) purchase prices. I the latter, it doesn't matter what you bought him for, it's what you could get for him now that is relevant. Assuming you'd get 4.6 for Vorm you are tying up 9.1m in your keepers. May be worth it, may not, but that is the relevant value under consdieration.

of course, silly me.

I meant 8.5, obviously.

And of course it freakin matters what I paid for them! I take it you're kidding right?

No, it doesn't matter in terms of what you do now. You have £4.6m tied up in Vorm - if you can use that money better elsewhere you should sell, if not you should keep. Yes you paid £4.0m for Vorm but have made a profit - there's no more reason to keep that profit in Vorm than to use it for anything else.

It's like buying shares, if you buy for £100 and it's now worth £300, the only questions is "is it still worth £300 - if yes keep, if not sell" the £100 is irrelevant.

It's not exactly like that with FPL - as the purchase price affects the selling price, and you cannot buy back for the same price, but that was not the context in which you were using the purchase price.

The way I use my Excel numbers, is I'm using the price that I bought him at: 4.0. That helps me to determine how valuable he is for that 4 mil that I spent.

With taking fixtures into account, I think Krul (4.5) is the only better keeper option. As I have both, I'm likely to stick with them.

Like you said yourself, it's nothing like shares. If I could buy Vorm back for 4.6, it would make decisions in this game a hell of a lot easier.

Not WCing for another 2 GWs anyway, so things can change. But Vorm and Krul rotate quite well.

I don't think that's what I said! Have added emphasis to assist you...

Right.

It's quite a bit like shares, as long as one makes the small adjustment that your buyback will be higher than your sell-on. And it really is a small adjustment.

Fairly obvious: if one thinks that Vorm at 4.6 is not a hold now, how would one justify Vorm at a 5.2 buy later? Either there's a wrong hold decision (current) or a wrong buy decision (later).

The fundamentals wouldn't change. Vorm isn't a blue-chip stock, just a massively overperforming one.

Vorm or Krul for this week?

i think he means that they preserved clean sheets thereby adding four more points per each performance

i brought in sorenson at 4.3 and have had vorm since 4.0 and am riding out the season with both hopefully.

lindegaard is very tempting but not worth the punt in my eyes although sorenson has been disappointing me (not that i've seen his performances just in terms of points and poor choices on when to start him)

People were ditching him last night, now his NTI is positive...

Hmm.

Tonight seems to be the crunch time to lose him 'incase' I want Lindegaard.

Vorm has been great, no buts. Paid 4.0m for him, he stays puts without rotation for the rest of the season probably.

Both penalty saves also resulted in clean sheets so 5 + 5 + 4 + 4 = 18
For the 2nd penalty save, it was Vorm's 6th save of the game, thus it earned him an extra shot save point, so effectively his penalty saves have added 19 points to his score.

It's still a rubbish argument. "He's not as good as you think he is, because he's got extra points for saving penalties" is what it amounts to.

But is it fair to say "he's not in as good a defence as you think he is, because he saved two penalties resulting in clean sheets"?

I think so. More to the point, in terms of fixtures there seem to be better choices in goal for the next couple of months who (now) cost less and we have a free wildcard. Why stick?

I sold him and krul during the wildcard (two weeks ago) and went with a Lindegaard and Mignolet combo. 2 clean sheets in 2 so far, can't complain.

I might do Vorm Al-Habsi and rotate him with Lindegaard

Fair enough, but I've never felt the Swansea defence was that good, and it's him alone that have kept them in clean sheets at times. His number of saves per game says it all. I'm not trying to convince anyone to keep him... I don't care what anyone else does