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Re: TFF chit chat 18th, 19th and 20th October

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Scores updated.

Hazard now has 5 points this week.

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Re: TFF chit chat 18th, 19th and 20th October

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5th, and outright first in the Starting XI :)

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Canaryfan wrote:Scores updated.

Hazard now has 5 points this week.
Indeed they are and he has.

Enough to make the difference between me dropping and rising over the week (43rd to 41st) - shame I'm burning transfers. Would be chuffed if this was a normal team...

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Latic wrote:5th, and outright first in the Starting XI :)
Nice one mate

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sted wrote:
Latic wrote:5th, and outright first in the Starting XI :)
Nice one mate
2350 and your not in bed Sted,late for you :D

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We already have the evidence that he went to bed, so presumably he stopped off at his computer on his way back to bed from having a piss.

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dunx wrote:
sted wrote:
Latic wrote:5th, and outright first in the Starting XI :)
Nice one mate
2350 and your not in bed Sted,late for you :D
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Re: TFF chit chat 18th, 19th and 20th October

Post by jb_cheadle »

Surely Falcao gets an assist for the Blind goal, Telegraph commentary for last nights game says this:

GOAL!! WEST BROM 2-2 MAN UTD (Blind) Rafael's cross from the right into the box is laid back by Falcao to the edge of the box perhaps two yards to the left of centre. Blind controls it then curls in a firm shot around the advancing Wisdom and into the bottom right corner. Excellent finish.

So I understand why he didn't get the points???

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jb_cheadle wrote:Surely Falcao gets an assist for the Blind goal, Telegraph commentary for last nights game says this:

GOAL!! WEST BROM 2-2 MAN UTD (Blind) Rafael's cross from the right into the box is laid back by Falcao to the edge of the box perhaps two yards to the left of centre. Blind controls it then curls in a firm shot around the advancing Wisdom and into the bottom right corner. Excellent finish.

So I understand why he didn't get the points???

Because ...
Thomarse wrote:Looks like it came off the defender tbh
Defender on the Falcaos left kicks it back ...

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Not expecting Kolorov to start at the weekend now having played and given away a peno in Russia - hopefully come off the bench.

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sjr wrote:Not expecting Kolorov to start at the weekend now having played and given away a peno in Russia - hopefully come off the bench.
I posted in another thread that Clichy will start at West Ham now. Then it's the League Cup so Kolarov will probably start, then Clichy again in the league. Looking like no points for Kolarov for a few weeks.

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Midlander wrote:
sjr wrote:Not expecting Kolorov to start at the weekend now having played and given away a peno in Russia - hopefully come off the bench.
I posted in another thread that Clichy will start at West Ham now. Then it's the League Cup so Kolarov will probably start, then Clichy again in the league. Looking like no points for Kolarov for a few weeks.
You never know, part CS poss attacking points from bench. It's what we signed up for when picking Kolorov!

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I don't think the rotation is that regimented either so wouldn't rule out him playing in one or both those games anyway.

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sjr wrote:
Midlander wrote:
sjr wrote:Not expecting Kolorov to start at the weekend now having played and given away a peno in Russia - hopefully come off the bench.
I posted in another thread that Clichy will start at West Ham now. Then it's the League Cup so Kolarov will probably start, then Clichy again in the league. Looking like no points for Kolarov for a few weeks.
You never know, part CS poss attacking points from bench. It's what we signed up for when picking Kolorov!
Very true. Just think how many points he'd score if he actually played every game!

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Midlander wrote:
sjr wrote:
Midlander wrote:
sjr wrote:Not expecting Kolorov to start at the weekend now having played and given away a peno in Russia - hopefully come off the bench.
I posted in another thread that Clichy will start at West Ham now. Then it's the League Cup so Kolarov will probably start, then Clichy again in the league. Looking like no points for Kolarov for a few weeks.
You never know, part CS poss attacking points from bench. It's what we signed up for when picking Kolorov!
Very true. Just think how many points he'd score if he actually played every game!
Think how expensive he'd be ;-)

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TFF had replied on Facebook:

"Hi Dave, the Chelsea move went as follows:
Fabregas to Hazard to Fabregas to Oscar to Fabregas - Goal

...so no KC for Hazard as he didn’t pass directly to Oscar."

Then last night added a KC for Hazard. :?

The late change of mind (probably due to email pressure) and the contradiction with their facebook post and (primarily) the inconsistency with all precedent in similar cases - is all unusually poor form from TFF, I've sent them a message asking for explanation

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They made a mistake, on first viewing and most reports never mentioned the little hazard flick.

They rectified the mistake

No harm done

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It went Fabregas - Hazard - Fabregas - (Hazard?) - Oscar - Fabregas - goal

The first Hazard involvement definitely shouldn't get a KC, that's what I thought it was for. They have replied already highlighting the dubious second Hazard touch which, if true, is a fair KC.

"we reviewed the footage of the Fabregas goal again and again, and with Slow motion and HD footage it is clear that Hazard does get a slight subtle touch n the ball as it goes through to Oscar. Therefore a KC has correctly been awarded. "

Their HD and slow mo must be pretty damn good. Have re-watched and now see where the suspicion of that touch is, but still looked at best inconclusive to me, so surprised they could overturn the initial ruling :?

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reds363 wrote:It went Fabregas - Hazard - Fabregas - (Hazard?) - Oscar - Fabregas - goal

The first Hazard involvement definitely shouldn't get a KC, that's what I thought it was for. They have replied already highlighting the dubious second Hazard touch which, if true, is a fair KC.

"we reviewed the footage of the Fabregas goal again and again, and with Slow motion and HD footage it is clear that Hazard does get a slight subtle touch n the ball as it goes through to Oscar. Therefore a KC has correctly been awarded. "

Their HD and slow mo must be pretty damn good. Have re-watched and now see where the suspicion of that touch is, but still looked at best inconclusive to me, so surprised they could overturn the initial ruling :?
Not sure f you saw this:

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and specifically this:

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Its subtle but definitely a slight backheel to carry it on to Oscar :)

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Two more goals tonight too 8-)

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That's a dummy if i ever saw one, pathetic from the TFF big wigs, a few chance their luck and they cave in. Gonna have to start to look at everything a bit closer from now on maybe we've missed opportunities to scam some points :shock:

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Post by Tom QC »

Except when you're trying to "dummy" you don't move your leg backwards along with the path of the ball in order to slightly redirect it on to your teammate at a slight angle behind you by flicking it, you let it come to you and then let it roll between your legs.

If you watch just the ball and nothing else it's possible to see its subtle change of trajectory and increased speed after Hazard touches it.

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You're having a giraffe the ball came to him far to quickly for him to react to flick it on, he saw the ball going through and moved his leg out of the way either that or the video above was a sped up version. To be fair though I think there could be a case for a dummy to be included as a kc, after all it is a key factor for the resulting goal!

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It can't be a dummy if he is trying to kick it or trying to get out of the way!

Could be an air shot though.....

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Good job all the hazard owners who emailed in! It does look from the above clip that it is 50-50 but I suspect telegraph would of had a better angle and a slowed down version. They obviously had a look at it after the emails and found that there was indeed a little touch

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Can anyone explain why David Silva did not get an assist at the weekend for one of the penalties - ball was played into him, he took a touch and was clattered, and penalty awarded! Is the question whether he was in control? I have seen other assists awarded for less!

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Basically, because all the owners of him didn't email in a protest ...

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Move on everyone, its Thursday, start planning ahead! :wink:

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@Fazza1973 - Wasn't the penalty awarded after Silva was bought down missed by Aguero? I seem to think it was as I was swearing at the TV after he cocked it up !!

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tommymooney wrote:Move on everyone, its Thursday, start planning ahead! :wink:
Yes, with this in mind and in Spiny's absence I've already posted this week's write-up :)

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