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Round 9 Teams / And On The Third Round....
... He will be raised to life (m0nty 17:23)
Geelong
FB: Andrew Mackie, Matthew Scarlett, David Johnson
HB: Joel Corey, Tom Harley, Harry Taylor
C: Jimmy Bartel, Corey Enright, David Wojcinski
HF: James Kelly, Max Rooke, Gary Ablett jnr
FF: Paul Chapman, Tom Hawkins, Steve Johnson
Fol: Mark Blake, Joel Selwood, Cameron Ling
Int: Ryan Gamble, Shane Mumford, Travis Varcoe, Mathew Stokes
In: D. Johnson, Ablett jnr, Chapman, Gamble
Out: Cameron Mooney, Darren Milburn, Shannon Byrnes, Tom Lonergan
Western Bulldogs
FB: Jarrod Harbrow, Brian Lake, Tim Callan
HB: Lindsay Gilbee, Tom Williams, Dale Morris
C: Nathan Eagleton, Matthew Boyd, Daniel Cross
HF: Josh Hill, Mitch Hahn, Brad Johnson
FF: Jason Akermanis, Will Minson, Scott Welsh
Fol: Ben Hudson, Adam Cooney, Ryan Griffen
Int: Shaun Higgins, Daniel Giansiracusa, Liam Picken, Callan Ward
In: Callan, Higgins, Ward
Out: Robert Murphy, Dylan Addison, Andrejs Everitt
North Melbourne
FB: Michael Firrito, Scott D. Thompson, Josh Gibson
HB: Scott McMahon, Nathan Grima, Gavin Urquhart
C: Ben Ross, Jack Ziebell, Sam Wright
HF: Ben Warren, Drew Petrie, Leigh Harding
FF: Lindsay Thomas, David Hale, Aaron Edwards
Fol: Hamish McIntosh, Brady Rawlings, Daniel Wells
Int: Sam Power, Adam Simpson, Andrew Swallow, Todd Goldstein
In: Rawlings, Wells, Ziebell
Out: Daniel Harris, Matt Riggio, Ed Lower
Fremantle
FB: Roger Hayden, Chris Tarrant, Antoni Grover
HB: Nick Suban, Luke McPharlin, Steven Dodd
C: Stephen Hill, Paul Hasleby, Garrick Ibbotson
HF: Paul Duffield, Michael Johnson, Clayton Hinkley
FF: Brett Peake, Matthew Pavlich, Dean Solomon
Fol: Aaron Sandilands, Byron Schammer, David Mundy
Int: Ryan Murphy, Matthew DeBoer, Des Headland, Scott Thornton
In: Headland
Out: Greg Broughton
Adelaide
FB: Graham Johncock, Ben Rutten, Andy Otten
HB: Michael Doughty, Scott Stevens, Brad Symes
C: Chris Knights, Simon Goodwin, David Mackay
HF: Nathan Van Berlo, Brad Moran, Andrew McLeod
FF: Jason Porplyzia, Taylor Walker, Richard Douglas
Fol: Kurt Tippett, Tyson Edwards, Scott Thompson
Int: Robert Shirley, Bernie Vince, Ivan Maric, Patrick Dangerfield
In: Shirley, Maric
Out: Brent Reilly, Jared Petrenko
Carlton
FB: Steven Browne, Michael Jamison, Bret Thornton
HB: Kade Simpson, Jarrad Waite, Paul Bower
C: Nick Stevens, Chris Judd, Heath Scotland
HF: Mitch Robinson, Matthew Kreuzer, Marc Murphy
FF: Chris Yarran, Brendan Fevola, Eddie Betts
Fol: Shaun Hampson, Richard Hadley, Bryce Gibbs
Int: Dennis Armfield, Mark Austin, Aaron Joseph, Jordan Russell
No change
West Coast
FB: Mark Nicoski, Darren Glass, David Wirrpanda
HB: Shannon Hurn, Eric MacKenzie, Adam Selwood
C: Andrew Embley, Matt Priddis, Matt Rosa
HF: Brad Ebert, Josh J. Kennedy, Chris Masten
FF: Mitchell Brown, Quinten Lynch, Mark LeCras
Fol: Dean Cox, Daniel Kerr, Scott Selwood
Int: Sam Butler, Adam Cockie, Ben McKinley, Mark Seaby
In: Kerr, Ebert
Out: Brett Jones, Jamie McNamara
Collingwood
FB: Harry O’Brien, Simon Prestigiacomo, Marty Clarke
HB: Nick Maxwell, Nathan J. Brown, Ben Reid
C: Alan Toovey, Steele Sidebottom, Shannon Cox
HF: Scott Pendlebury, Leigh Brown, Leon Davis
FF: Tarkyn Lockyer, Cameron Wood, Heath Shaw
Fol: Josh Fraser, Dane Swan, Shane O’Bree
Int: John Anthony, Tyson Goldsack, Ryan Cook, Sharrod Wellingham
In: Fraser, Goldsack
Out: Anthony Corrie, Dayne Beams
Richmond
FB: Chris Newman, Kelvin Moore, Andrew Raines
HB: Joel Bowden, Luke McGuane, Dean Polo
C: Trent Cotchin, Shane Tuck, Brett Deledio
HF: Richard Tambling, Mitch Morton, Nathan G. Brown
FF: Adam Pattison, Kayne Pettifer, Robin Nahas
Fol: Troy Simmonds, Daniel Jackson, Nathan Foley
Int: Andrew Collins, Mark Coughlan, Matt White, Will Thursfield
In: Pattison, Thursfield
Out: Ben Cousins, Angus Graham
Essendon
FB: Bachar Houli, Tayte Pears, Henry Slattery
HB: Courtenay Dempsey, Cale Hooker, Adam McPhee
C: Ricky Dyson, Brent Stanton, Jason Winderlich
HF: Leroy Jetta, Nathan Lovett-Murray, Heath Hocking
FF: Matthew Lloyd, Jay Neagle, Alwyn Davey
Fol: Patrick Ryder, Jobe Watson, Andrew Lovett
Int: Sam Lonergan, Tom Bellchambers, David Zaharakis, Angus Monfries
In: Jetta
Out: David Myers
Sydney
FB: Craig Bolton, Lewis Roberts-Thomson, Martin Mattner
HB: Rhyce Shaw, Heath Grundy, Luke Ablett
C: Adam Goodes, Brett Kirk, Amon Buchanan
HF: Ryan O’Keefe, Ted Richards, Craig Bird
FF: Jarred Moore, Barry Hall, Michael O’Loughlin
Fol: Darren Jolly, Jarrad McVeigh, Jude Bolton
Int: (from) Paul Bevan, Jared Crouch, Kieren Jack, Nick Malceski
Brett Meredith, Kristin Thornton, Jesse White
In: Crouch, Malceski, Thornton
Out:
Port Adelaide
FB: Michael Pettigrew, Alipate Carlile, Jacob Surjan
HB: Nathan Krakouer, Troy Chaplin, Peter Burgoyne
C: Domenic Cassisi, Chad Cornes, Travis Boak
HF: Robbie Gray, Warren Tredrea, Matt Thomas
FF: Brett Ebert, Brendon Lade, Daniel Motlop
Fol: Dean Brogan, Kane Cornes, Danyle Pearce
Int: (from) Hamish Hartlett, Tom Logan, David Rodan, Jason Davenport
Marlon Motlop, Steven Salopek, Matthew Westhoff
In: Salopek, M. Westhoff, M. Motlop
Out:
St Kilda
FB: Farren Ray, Jason Blake, Zac Dawson
HB: Steven Baker, Sam Fisher, Brendon Goddard
C: Jason Gram, Luke Ball, Nick Dal Santo
HF: Stephen Milne, Nick Riewoldt, Adam Schneider
FF: Lenny Hayes, Justin Koschitzke, Sam Gilbert
Fol: Michael Gardiner, Clinton Jones, Leigh Montagna
Int: (from) Robert Eddy, Raphael Clarke, Ben McEvoy, Jarryn Geary
James Gwilt, Steven King, Andrew McQualter
In: R. Clarke, Eddy, McEvoy
Out:
Brisbane
FB: Ashley McGrath, Joel Macdonald, James Polkinghorne
HB: Sam Sheldon, Jared Brennan, Josh Drummond
C: Scott Harding, Simon Black, Daniel Rich
HF: Michael Rischitelli, Jonathan Brown, Justin Sherman
FF: Cheynee Stiller, Daniel Bradshaw, Luke Power
Fol: Mitch Clark, Travis Johnstone, Jed Adcock
Int: (from) Jason Roe, Albert Proud, Aaron Cornelius, Matt Austin
Tim Notting, Pearce Hanley, Tom Collier
In: Notting, Roe, Collier, Hanley, Cornelius
Out: Daniel Merrett, Joel Patfull
Hawthorn
FB: Brendan Whitecross, Thomas Murphy, Brent Guerra
HB: Beau Dowler, Campbell Brown, Grant Birchall
C: Jordan Lewis, Sam Mitchell, Beau Muston
HF: Mark Williams, Lance Franklin, Michael Osborne
FF: Cyril Rioli, Jarryd Roughead, Garry Moss
Fol: Simon Taylor, Brad Sewell, Chance Bateman
Int: (from) Robert Campbell, Ben McGlynn, Stuart Dew, Jarryd Morton
Brent Renouf, Cameron Stokes, Travis Tuck
In: Muston, Renouf, Stokes
Out:
Melbourne
FB: Matthew Whelan, Matthew Warnock, Jared Rivers
HB: James Frawley, Stefan Martin, Aaron Davey
C: Jack Grimes, Colin Sylvia, Brock McLean
HF: Cale Morton, Brad Miller, Russell Robertson
FF: Brad Green, Matthew Bate, Cameron Bruce
Fol: Paul Johnson, Brent Moloney, James McDonald
Int: (from) Ricky Petterd, Addam Maric, Nathan Jones, Jamie Bennell
Mark Jamar, Kyle Cheney, Clint Bartram
In: Green, Rivers, Jamar, Frawley, Bennell
Out: Lynden Dunn, Shane Valenti
Geelong
FB: Andrew Mackie, Matthew Scarlett, David Johnson
HB: Joel Corey, Tom Harley, Harry Taylor
C: Jimmy Bartel, Corey Enright, David Wojcinski
HF: James Kelly, Max Rooke, Gary Ablett jnr
FF: Paul Chapman, Tom Hawkins, Steve Johnson
Fol: Mark Blake, Joel Selwood, Cameron Ling
Int: Ryan Gamble, Shane Mumford, Travis Varcoe, Mathew Stokes
In: D. Johnson, Ablett jnr, Chapman, Gamble
Out: Cameron Mooney, Darren Milburn, Shannon Byrnes, Tom Lonergan
Western Bulldogs
FB: Jarrod Harbrow, Brian Lake, Tim Callan
HB: Lindsay Gilbee, Tom Williams, Dale Morris
C: Nathan Eagleton, Matthew Boyd, Daniel Cross
HF: Josh Hill, Mitch Hahn, Brad Johnson
FF: Jason Akermanis, Will Minson, Scott Welsh
Fol: Ben Hudson, Adam Cooney, Ryan Griffen
Int: Shaun Higgins, Daniel Giansiracusa, Liam Picken, Callan Ward
In: Callan, Higgins, Ward
Out: Robert Murphy, Dylan Addison, Andrejs Everitt
North Melbourne
FB: Michael Firrito, Scott D. Thompson, Josh Gibson
HB: Scott McMahon, Nathan Grima, Gavin Urquhart
C: Ben Ross, Jack Ziebell, Sam Wright
HF: Ben Warren, Drew Petrie, Leigh Harding
FF: Lindsay Thomas, David Hale, Aaron Edwards
Fol: Hamish McIntosh, Brady Rawlings, Daniel Wells
Int: Sam Power, Adam Simpson, Andrew Swallow, Todd Goldstein
In: Rawlings, Wells, Ziebell
Out: Daniel Harris, Matt Riggio, Ed Lower
Fremantle
FB: Roger Hayden, Chris Tarrant, Antoni Grover
HB: Nick Suban, Luke McPharlin, Steven Dodd
C: Stephen Hill, Paul Hasleby, Garrick Ibbotson
HF: Paul Duffield, Michael Johnson, Clayton Hinkley
FF: Brett Peake, Matthew Pavlich, Dean Solomon
Fol: Aaron Sandilands, Byron Schammer, David Mundy
Int: Ryan Murphy, Matthew DeBoer, Des Headland, Scott Thornton
In: Headland
Out: Greg Broughton
Adelaide
FB: Graham Johncock, Ben Rutten, Andy Otten
HB: Michael Doughty, Scott Stevens, Brad Symes
C: Chris Knights, Simon Goodwin, David Mackay
HF: Nathan Van Berlo, Brad Moran, Andrew McLeod
FF: Jason Porplyzia, Taylor Walker, Richard Douglas
Fol: Kurt Tippett, Tyson Edwards, Scott Thompson
Int: Robert Shirley, Bernie Vince, Ivan Maric, Patrick Dangerfield
In: Shirley, Maric
Out: Brent Reilly, Jared Petrenko
Carlton
FB: Steven Browne, Michael Jamison, Bret Thornton
HB: Kade Simpson, Jarrad Waite, Paul Bower
C: Nick Stevens, Chris Judd, Heath Scotland
HF: Mitch Robinson, Matthew Kreuzer, Marc Murphy
FF: Chris Yarran, Brendan Fevola, Eddie Betts
Fol: Shaun Hampson, Richard Hadley, Bryce Gibbs
Int: Dennis Armfield, Mark Austin, Aaron Joseph, Jordan Russell
No change
West Coast
FB: Mark Nicoski, Darren Glass, David Wirrpanda
HB: Shannon Hurn, Eric MacKenzie, Adam Selwood
C: Andrew Embley, Matt Priddis, Matt Rosa
HF: Brad Ebert, Josh J. Kennedy, Chris Masten
FF: Mitchell Brown, Quinten Lynch, Mark LeCras
Fol: Dean Cox, Daniel Kerr, Scott Selwood
Int: Sam Butler, Adam Cockie, Ben McKinley, Mark Seaby
In: Kerr, Ebert
Out: Brett Jones, Jamie McNamara
Collingwood
FB: Harry O’Brien, Simon Prestigiacomo, Marty Clarke
HB: Nick Maxwell, Nathan J. Brown, Ben Reid
C: Alan Toovey, Steele Sidebottom, Shannon Cox
HF: Scott Pendlebury, Leigh Brown, Leon Davis
FF: Tarkyn Lockyer, Cameron Wood, Heath Shaw
Fol: Josh Fraser, Dane Swan, Shane O’Bree
Int: John Anthony, Tyson Goldsack, Ryan Cook, Sharrod Wellingham
In: Fraser, Goldsack
Out: Anthony Corrie, Dayne Beams
Richmond
FB: Chris Newman, Kelvin Moore, Andrew Raines
HB: Joel Bowden, Luke McGuane, Dean Polo
C: Trent Cotchin, Shane Tuck, Brett Deledio
HF: Richard Tambling, Mitch Morton, Nathan G. Brown
FF: Adam Pattison, Kayne Pettifer, Robin Nahas
Fol: Troy Simmonds, Daniel Jackson, Nathan Foley
Int: Andrew Collins, Mark Coughlan, Matt White, Will Thursfield
In: Pattison, Thursfield
Out: Ben Cousins, Angus Graham
Essendon
FB: Bachar Houli, Tayte Pears, Henry Slattery
HB: Courtenay Dempsey, Cale Hooker, Adam McPhee
C: Ricky Dyson, Brent Stanton, Jason Winderlich
HF: Leroy Jetta, Nathan Lovett-Murray, Heath Hocking
FF: Matthew Lloyd, Jay Neagle, Alwyn Davey
Fol: Patrick Ryder, Jobe Watson, Andrew Lovett
Int: Sam Lonergan, Tom Bellchambers, David Zaharakis, Angus Monfries
In: Jetta
Out: David Myers
Sydney
FB: Craig Bolton, Lewis Roberts-Thomson, Martin Mattner
HB: Rhyce Shaw, Heath Grundy, Luke Ablett
C: Adam Goodes, Brett Kirk, Amon Buchanan
HF: Ryan O’Keefe, Ted Richards, Craig Bird
FF: Jarred Moore, Barry Hall, Michael O’Loughlin
Fol: Darren Jolly, Jarrad McVeigh, Jude Bolton
Int: (from) Paul Bevan, Jared Crouch, Kieren Jack, Nick Malceski
Brett Meredith, Kristin Thornton, Jesse White
In: Crouch, Malceski, Thornton
Out:
Port Adelaide
FB: Michael Pettigrew, Alipate Carlile, Jacob Surjan
HB: Nathan Krakouer, Troy Chaplin, Peter Burgoyne
C: Domenic Cassisi, Chad Cornes, Travis Boak
HF: Robbie Gray, Warren Tredrea, Matt Thomas
FF: Brett Ebert, Brendon Lade, Daniel Motlop
Fol: Dean Brogan, Kane Cornes, Danyle Pearce
Int: (from) Hamish Hartlett, Tom Logan, David Rodan, Jason Davenport
Marlon Motlop, Steven Salopek, Matthew Westhoff
In: Salopek, M. Westhoff, M. Motlop
Out:
St Kilda
FB: Farren Ray, Jason Blake, Zac Dawson
HB: Steven Baker, Sam Fisher, Brendon Goddard
C: Jason Gram, Luke Ball, Nick Dal Santo
HF: Stephen Milne, Nick Riewoldt, Adam Schneider
FF: Lenny Hayes, Justin Koschitzke, Sam Gilbert
Fol: Michael Gardiner, Clinton Jones, Leigh Montagna
Int: (from) Robert Eddy, Raphael Clarke, Ben McEvoy, Jarryn Geary
James Gwilt, Steven King, Andrew McQualter
In: R. Clarke, Eddy, McEvoy
Out:
Brisbane
FB: Ashley McGrath, Joel Macdonald, James Polkinghorne
HB: Sam Sheldon, Jared Brennan, Josh Drummond
C: Scott Harding, Simon Black, Daniel Rich
HF: Michael Rischitelli, Jonathan Brown, Justin Sherman
FF: Cheynee Stiller, Daniel Bradshaw, Luke Power
Fol: Mitch Clark, Travis Johnstone, Jed Adcock
Int: (from) Jason Roe, Albert Proud, Aaron Cornelius, Matt Austin
Tim Notting, Pearce Hanley, Tom Collier
In: Notting, Roe, Collier, Hanley, Cornelius
Out: Daniel Merrett, Joel Patfull
Hawthorn
FB: Brendan Whitecross, Thomas Murphy, Brent Guerra
HB: Beau Dowler, Campbell Brown, Grant Birchall
C: Jordan Lewis, Sam Mitchell, Beau Muston
HF: Mark Williams, Lance Franklin, Michael Osborne
FF: Cyril Rioli, Jarryd Roughead, Garry Moss
Fol: Simon Taylor, Brad Sewell, Chance Bateman
Int: (from) Robert Campbell, Ben McGlynn, Stuart Dew, Jarryd Morton
Brent Renouf, Cameron Stokes, Travis Tuck
In: Muston, Renouf, Stokes
Out:
Melbourne
FB: Matthew Whelan, Matthew Warnock, Jared Rivers
HB: James Frawley, Stefan Martin, Aaron Davey
C: Jack Grimes, Colin Sylvia, Brock McLean
HF: Cale Morton, Brad Miller, Russell Robertson
FF: Brad Green, Matthew Bate, Cameron Bruce
Fol: Paul Johnson, Brent Moloney, James McDonald
Int: (from) Ricky Petterd, Addam Maric, Nathan Jones, Jamie Bennell
Mark Jamar, Kyle Cheney, Clint Bartram
In: Green, Rivers, Jamar, Frawley, Bennell
Out: Lynden Dunn, Shane Valenti
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Re: Round 9 Teams / And On The Third Round....
nice to see ablett and fraser return, my donut in the rucks hurt last week.
still going to do the 1 trade: Houlihan to Grimes.
still going to do the 1 trade: Houlihan to Grimes.
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Might go for that as well MJ. Or Hill out, but that's a bigger risk. Houlihan's listed as first emergency so he's got a chance. I reckon Broughton's also got a reasonable chance of going into the Fremantle team. If I go Hill Grimes I might cop a zero, but Hill won't make his break even so I'd rather get rid of him.
I've got a bit of the problem in the mids too with Beams listed as an emergency and Hartlett on the i/c.
I've got a bit of the problem in the mids too with Beams listed as an emergency and Hartlett on the i/c.
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I don't understand this game...Houlihan was getting a great average and he's kept out by someone with a much worse average. I guess tactics and AFL fantasy points don't all add up the same.
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Oh yeah, Beams and Broughton going missing has stuffed me a bit as far as emergencies. This game, grrr.
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Well I've gone from having 12 donuts (4 on the park and the whole bench) to only having 4 (and 2 of them are bench rucks).
Krak to ROK for me I think this week.
Krak to ROK for me I think this week.
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You're off Krak, but you're jumping on the ROK instead? I hope you use clean needles.uncsi wrote:Well I've gone from having 12 donuts (4 on the park and the whole bench) to only having 4 (and 2 of them are bench rucks).
Krak to ROK for me I think this week.
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I get mine from the same place as Cousins and Buddy (allegedly )SunderlandFan wrote:You're off Krak, but you're jumping on the ROK instead? I hope you use clean needles.uncsi wrote:Well I've gone from having 12 donuts (4 on the park and the whole bench) to only having 4 (and 2 of them are bench rucks).
Krak to ROK for me I think this week.
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uncsi wrote:I get mine from the same place as Cousins and Buddy (allegedly )SunderlandFan wrote:You're off Krak, but you're jumping on the ROK instead? I hope you use clean needles.uncsi wrote:Well I've gone from having 12 donuts (4 on the park and the whole bench) to only having 4 (and 2 of them are bench rucks).
Krak to ROK for me I think this week.
Well, no they're not but there was a rumour I've seen in a couple of places that he was dropped for some indiscretion and the phrase 'personal problems' has been also used. Although every other aussie rules player seems to play on despite indiscretions and personal problems. The excuse was he wasn't working hard enough, not tackling enough, but that's bullshit imho.SunderlandFan wrote:I don't understand this game...Houlihan was getting a great average and he's kept out by someone with a much worse average. I guess tactics and AFL fantasy points don't all add up the same.
I didn't expect him to be back this week because the seconds didn't have a game last week. There's a bit of hope because he's first emg.
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Oh great, If I hold on him then I can't get Grimes in, and I really don't want to get rid of Houlihan if he is coming back very soon. Pish
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fwiw, i'm naming Houlihan in my starting22 and making Raines 1st sub
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Guys, who should I play out of Warren and Walker? Tex seems to be very inconsistent, but I'd rather play someone who has a chance of 100+ than someone who only gets about 60 max
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i'd just play the guy with the highest average.SunderlandFan wrote:Guys, who should I play out of Warren and Walker? Tex seems to be very inconsistent, but I'd rather play someone who has a chance of 100+ than someone who only gets about 60 max
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Warren it is thenTippaz wrote:i'd just play the guy with the highest average.SunderlandFan wrote:Guys, who should I play out of Warren and Walker? Tex seems to be very inconsistent, but I'd rather play someone who has a chance of 100+ than someone who only gets about 60 max
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That's it I'm fkked for the season. I over traded and got rid of some guys who I should have kept regardless of their poor form. I'm probs out of the eliminator cos of Cox middling score and my rank is going to drop again after poor performances from my Richmond, Roo and Dockers players.
Terrible compared to last year
Terrible compared to last year
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Certainly a poor scoring week for me so far - only one SC score over 100 (GAblett) for me, and quite a few regular guns shooting blanks. Balls, I thought the agony would be over after a diet of doughnuts the past couple of weeks
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