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Watching Olympics Biathlon.
A sport combining endurance effort and precision shooting.
The faster you ski, the more spent will be your physique, the quicker your heartbeat and breath, hampering your precision.
(In some versions the penalty being just the time to take the extra shot and eventually reloading, till you hit all 5, in other versions you don't take extra shots but you have to ski extra distance, say a 150m penalty loop, for each miss)
So I was thinking, in Elimination, you enter a comp, you get unlucky early on, and it's suddenly over, goodbye for the season.
Could we (you ) devise a version where you don't get eliminated, but you just "slip back"?
Where the higher you score, the bigger the chance you get a penalty?
Mind, you don't necessarily get a penalty, you can get away with it, but the higher you get the riskier the fall.
Then of course you have to fine-tune, to decide thresolds and penalties, maybe relating them to the gw avg
A sport combining endurance effort and precision shooting.
The faster you ski, the more spent will be your physique, the quicker your heartbeat and breath, hampering your precision.
(In some versions the penalty being just the time to take the extra shot and eventually reloading, till you hit all 5, in other versions you don't take extra shots but you have to ski extra distance, say a 150m penalty loop, for each miss)
So I was thinking, in Elimination, you enter a comp, you get unlucky early on, and it's suddenly over, goodbye for the season.
Could we (you ) devise a version where you don't get eliminated, but you just "slip back"?
Where the higher you score, the bigger the chance you get a penalty?
Mind, you don't necessarily get a penalty, you can get away with it, but the higher you get the riskier the fall.
Then of course you have to fine-tune, to decide thresolds and penalties, maybe relating them to the gw avg
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That's an interesting idea, MoSe. I'll give it a bit of thought.
Off the top of my head, how about this:
Say, you, MoSe, score 78 and I score 42. We divide each score by 10 and round down. MoSe 7, Jeff 4
You suffer a penalty if the last digit of your gameweek score ends in an even number less <= 7 i.e. 2,4,6; I get a penalty if my score ends in 2 or 4 (0 always gets you through).
So, in this example, you have a 30% chance of suffering a penalty; I have a 20% chance.
Your score ends in 8 and so you avoid the penalty (digit is not 2,4,6); my score ends in 2 and I get the penalty
So, in simple terms, the thresholds are:
Could work nicely. I'm not sure what the penalty should be though. Possibilities are a % of your GW score (or all of your GW score ), a drop of number of places in the league, a fixed penalty.
I actually like the idea of the penalty being the loss of the entire GW score. If someone goes into the final game with an 80 point lead and gets a penalty, it gives second place a chance to catch up with a score of 81 or more ending in 0,1,3,5,7,9.
Hmm, interesting idea.
Off the top of my head, how about this:
Say, you, MoSe, score 78 and I score 42. We divide each score by 10 and round down. MoSe 7, Jeff 4
You suffer a penalty if the last digit of your gameweek score ends in an even number less <= 7 i.e. 2,4,6; I get a penalty if my score ends in 2 or 4 (0 always gets you through).
So, in this example, you have a 30% chance of suffering a penalty; I have a 20% chance.
Your score ends in 8 and so you avoid the penalty (digit is not 2,4,6); my score ends in 2 and I get the penalty
So, in simple terms, the thresholds are:
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GW Score Penalty digit
1 - 39 2
41 - 59 2, 4
61 - 79 2, 4, 6
81 or more 2, 4, 6, 8
I actually like the idea of the penalty being the loss of the entire GW score. If someone goes into the final game with an 80 point lead and gets a penalty, it gives second place a chance to catch up with a score of 81 or more ending in 0,1,3,5,7,9.
Hmm, interesting idea.
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spot on
simple and effective
I was thinking a penalty gradient too, which could be easily be implemented by the penalty digit system
2=-20% 4 = -40%, etc, be it of your score or the fpl avg or what
but this way we could get negligible penalties which would add litte to the game
so I was beginning to consider too the loss of the entire GW score
we cound do a dummy test run with this season data from this decimation league itself...
simple and effective
I was thinking a penalty gradient too, which could be easily be implemented by the penalty digit system
2=-20% 4 = -40%, etc, be it of your score or the fpl avg or what
but this way we could get negligible penalties which would add litte to the game
so I was beginning to consider too the loss of the entire GW score
we cound do a dummy test run with this season data from this decimation league itself...
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Personally, I'd leave it like it is. Why over complicate an excellent format?
As it is at the moment, despite the leader being well clear, everyone playing can still win if he gets eliminated.
Anyway, great side game Jeff and thanks for running.
As it is at the moment, despite the leader being well clear, everyone playing can still win if he gets eliminated.
Anyway, great side game Jeff and thanks for running.
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Thanks for the comment, Maldini Sometimes (as in FPL) the best tactic is to change nothing.
You never know, I might even kick off a couple of side games. (Maybe I'm missing running the Elite League )
You never know, I might even kick off a couple of side games. (Maybe I'm missing running the Elite League )
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We haven't had an elimination for a little while, but this gameweek we have two.
GW 27 Eliminations
Teams at start of gameweek: 18 (*)
Teams with score ending in zero: 2
% of teams ending in zero: 11.1%
Reprieves are only granted if more than 12% of teams have a score ending in zero.
The following managers are eliminated this week:
90 points
Aardvark - SquareRootOfABanana
80 points
metalwarlord - Inter Sandman
Note: we are now down to 16 managers. The 12% rule means that we will now have a maximum of one manager eliminated per week. (2 eliminations would be 2/16, which is 12.5%)
Good luck to Ardrageen, army786, coryphaeus, Curwinkle, Dirk, frattonender, hancockjr, iksh, jazzyb69, Maldini, morganb, PleasedToMichu, plevna1963, tenpinterry, Vid and wahine
* On Giants' Shoulders is my team and was eliminated in GW11
GW 27 Eliminations
Teams at start of gameweek: 18 (*)
Teams with score ending in zero: 2
% of teams ending in zero: 11.1%
Reprieves are only granted if more than 12% of teams have a score ending in zero.
The following managers are eliminated this week:
90 points
Aardvark - SquareRootOfABanana
80 points
metalwarlord - Inter Sandman
Note: we are now down to 16 managers. The 12% rule means that we will now have a maximum of one manager eliminated per week. (2 eliminations would be 2/16, which is 12.5%)
Good luck to Ardrageen, army786, coryphaeus, Curwinkle, Dirk, frattonender, hancockjr, iksh, jazzyb69, Maldini, morganb, PleasedToMichu, plevna1963, tenpinterry, Vid and wahine
* On Giants' Shoulders is my team and was eliminated in GW11
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Such a shame to see Aardvark eliminated. SquareRootOfABanana is definitely the best team name I have ever seen. No clever football pun, just plain randomness which is just what I like.
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GW 28 Eliminations
Teams at start of gameweek: 16 (*)
Teams with score ending in zero: 1
% of teams ending in zero: 6.3%
Reprieves are only granted if more than 12% of teams have a score ending in zero.
The following managers are eliminated this week:
GW 28 Eliminations
50 points
coryphaeus - Queens Gambit
* On Giants' Shoulders is my team and was eliminated in GW11
Teams at start of gameweek: 16 (*)
Teams with score ending in zero: 1
% of teams ending in zero: 6.3%
Reprieves are only granted if more than 12% of teams have a score ending in zero.
The following managers are eliminated this week:
GW 28 Eliminations
50 points
coryphaeus - Queens Gambit
* On Giants' Shoulders is my team and was eliminated in GW11
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GW 29 Eliminations
Teams at start of gameweek: 15 (*)
Teams with score ending in zero: None
% of teams ending in zero: 0%
* On Giants' Shoulders is my team and was eliminated in GW11
Teams at start of gameweek: 15 (*)
Teams with score ending in zero: None
% of teams ending in zero: 0%
* On Giants' Shoulders is my team and was eliminated in GW11
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GW 30 Eliminations
Teams at start of gameweek: 15 (*)
Teams with score ending in zero: 1
% of teams ending in zero: 6.7%
Reprieves are only granted if more than 12% of teams have a score ending in zero.
The following managers are eliminated this week:
GW 30 Eliminations
30 points
frattonender - frattonender
* On Giants' Shoulders is my team and was eliminated in GW11
Teams at start of gameweek: 15 (*)
Teams with score ending in zero: 1
% of teams ending in zero: 6.7%
Reprieves are only granted if more than 12% of teams have a score ending in zero.
The following managers are eliminated this week:
GW 30 Eliminations
30 points
frattonender - frattonender
* On Giants' Shoulders is my team and was eliminated in GW11
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GW 31 Eliminations
Teams at start of gameweek: 14 (*)
Teams with score ending in zero: 1
% of teams ending in zero: 7.1%
Reprieves are only granted if more than 12% of teams have a score ending in zero.
The following managers are eliminated this week:
GW 31 Eliminations
80 points
Dirk - Dirkish Delights
* On Giants' Shoulders is my team and was eliminated in GW11
Teams at start of gameweek: 14 (*)
Teams with score ending in zero: 1
% of teams ending in zero: 7.1%
Reprieves are only granted if more than 12% of teams have a score ending in zero.
The following managers are eliminated this week:
GW 31 Eliminations
80 points
Dirk - Dirkish Delights
* On Giants' Shoulders is my team and was eliminated in GW11
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Whoops! Sorry tenpinterry . I've accidentally suspended your team Duke Nukem FC
I've removed the suspension, but I think you might have to rejoin the league. PIN Number is 111636-342300
(PM sent)
I've removed the suspension, but I think you might have to rejoin the league. PIN Number is 111636-342300
(PM sent)
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To save jeffmcgow the trouble :-
GW 32 Eliminations
Teams at start of gameweek: 13 (*)
Teams with score ending in zero: None
% of teams ending in zero: 0%
* On Giants' Shoulders is my jeffmcgow's team and was eliminated in GW11
GW 32 Eliminations
Teams at start of gameweek: 13 (*)
Teams with score ending in zero: None
% of teams ending in zero: 0%
* On Giants' Shoulders is my jeffmcgow's team and was eliminated in GW11
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Thanks for that, Jay
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GW 33 Eliminations
Teams at start of gameweek: 13 (*)
Teams with score ending in zero: 1
% of teams ending in zero: 7.7%
Reprieves are only granted if more than 12% of teams have a score ending in zero.
The following managers are eliminated this week:
GW 33 Eliminations
40 points
hancockjr The Pocket Rockets
We lose our 2nd-placed manager hancockjr this gameweek.
Ardrageen, who has an unassailable lead, now has just (!) 4 gameweeks to avoid getting the chop. Meanwhile, Maldini and Duke Nukem FC patiently await their chance to pounce.
* On Giants' Shoulders is my team and was eliminated in GW11
Teams at start of gameweek: 13 (*)
Teams with score ending in zero: 1
% of teams ending in zero: 7.7%
Reprieves are only granted if more than 12% of teams have a score ending in zero.
The following managers are eliminated this week:
GW 33 Eliminations
40 points
hancockjr The Pocket Rockets
We lose our 2nd-placed manager hancockjr this gameweek.
Ardrageen, who has an unassailable lead, now has just (!) 4 gameweeks to avoid getting the chop. Meanwhile, Maldini and Duke Nukem FC patiently await their chance to pounce.
* On Giants' Shoulders is my team and was eliminated in GW11
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D’oh!
Many thanks for a great comp!
Many thanks for a great comp!
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GW 34 Eliminations
Teams at start of gameweek: 12 (*)
Teams with score ending in zero: 1
% of teams ending in zero: 8.3%
Reprieves are only granted if more than 12% of teams have a score ending in zero.
The following managers are eliminated this week:
GW 34 Eliminations
70 points
Maldini
For the second gamweek running, we lose our 2nd-placed manager. Sorry to see you go, Maldini. Hopefully you'll be back next season.
There are just 3 more gameweeks left in which we can have at most one elimination: 35,36 and 37. After that, whoever tops the league after GW38 wins the £50 prize.
* On Giants' Shoulders is my team and was eliminated in GW11
Teams at start of gameweek: 12 (*)
Teams with score ending in zero: 1
% of teams ending in zero: 8.3%
Reprieves are only granted if more than 12% of teams have a score ending in zero.
The following managers are eliminated this week:
GW 34 Eliminations
70 points
Maldini
For the second gamweek running, we lose our 2nd-placed manager. Sorry to see you go, Maldini. Hopefully you'll be back next season.
There are just 3 more gameweeks left in which we can have at most one elimination: 35,36 and 37. After that, whoever tops the league after GW38 wins the £50 prize.
* On Giants' Shoulders is my team and was eliminated in GW11
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Nallacks.
Definitely be back if you run it again.
Thanks Jeff and good luck to those left.
Definitely be back if you run it again.
Thanks Jeff and good luck to those left.
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The competition will most definitely be back. If I have some luck in my cash minileagues, I might even up next season's prize money a tad
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GW 35 Eliminations
Teams at start of gameweek: 11 (*)
Teams with score ending in zero: 3
% of teams ending in zero: 27.3%
More than 12% of teams have a score ending in zero, so everyone gets a reprieve this week and there are no eliminations
Curwinkle, morganb and tenpinterry can wipe the sweat from their brows, having survived to fight another week.
* On Giants' Shoulders is my team and was eliminated in GW11
Teams at start of gameweek: 11 (*)
Teams with score ending in zero: 3
% of teams ending in zero: 27.3%
More than 12% of teams have a score ending in zero, so everyone gets a reprieve this week and there are no eliminations
Curwinkle, morganb and tenpinterry can wipe the sweat from their brows, having survived to fight another week.
* On Giants' Shoulders is my team and was eliminated in GW11
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Phew, another bullet dodged
Our only chance of winning is for the bullet to ricochet and hit Ardrageen square between the eyes
Our only chance of winning is for the bullet to ricochet and hit Ardrageen square between the eyes
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GW 36 Eliminations
Teams at start of gameweek: 11 (*)
Teams with score ending in zero: 1
% of teams ending in zero: 9.1%
Reprieves are only granted if more than 12% of teams have a score ending in zero.
The following managers are eliminated this week:
30 points
morganb - Spotty Dog
10 managers go into our final elimination gameweek.
Whoever is top after GW38 wins £50
Good luck all
* On Giants' Shoulders is my team and was eliminated in GW11
Teams at start of gameweek: 11 (*)
Teams with score ending in zero: 1
% of teams ending in zero: 9.1%
Reprieves are only granted if more than 12% of teams have a score ending in zero.
The following managers are eliminated this week:
30 points
morganb - Spotty Dog
10 managers go into our final elimination gameweek.
Whoever is top after GW38 wins £50
Good luck all
* On Giants' Shoulders is my team and was eliminated in GW11
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Think I managed to get a score ending in a zero several times over the course of the season but was saved every time due to others being in the same boat! Thanks for running
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Oops. Looks like 90 for me this week
Unless someone else wants to join the zero party then I'm going to fall at the last hurdle.
Unless someone else wants to join the zero party then I'm going to fall at the last hurdle.
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Looks like PleasedToMichu(Chris Hammer) will get a 70.
So thats 20% of teams with a zero. We're saved I think.
So thats 20% of teams with a zero. We're saved I think.
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Phew! Skin of the teeth there Ardrageen When I saw you on 81 with DDG and Arnautovic still to play, I thought that a 90 score would be a distinct possibility.
You are exactly right though : PleasedToMichu's 70 saves you from an untimely elimination.
There will be no eliminations in GW38, so, with a 251-point lead, I think we can declare you our winner
Well played also to the other survivors:
army786 - Blackburn Superstars
Curwinkle - Koeman you Blues
iksh - Iksh
jazzyb69 - THAT'S NUMBERWANG!!!
PleasedToMichu - Chris' Hammer
plevna1963 - plevna1963
tenpinterry - Duke Nukem FC
Vid - Furballs
wahine - Bringbackthebiff
I think next season, I'll have a secondary prize of £25 which will go to the person with the highest GW score in 38.
And hopefully everyone will be back
You are exactly right though : PleasedToMichu's 70 saves you from an untimely elimination.
There will be no eliminations in GW38, so, with a 251-point lead, I think we can declare you our winner
Well played also to the other survivors:
army786 - Blackburn Superstars
Curwinkle - Koeman you Blues
iksh - Iksh
jazzyb69 - THAT'S NUMBERWANG!!!
PleasedToMichu - Chris' Hammer
plevna1963 - plevna1963
tenpinterry - Duke Nukem FC
Vid - Furballs
wahine - Bringbackthebiff
I think next season, I'll have a secondary prize of £25 which will go to the person with the highest GW score in 38.
And hopefully everyone will be back
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I'll be back for sure. Very enjoyable, thank you for running this.
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