Free 4Homes Fantasy Property Investor competition

Post by **DrBunker** » 15 Jan 2008, 12:08

Mr Green / timmsy:

When you mention banking profits what would you suggest is a good profit level to sell on? I've got one property that's over £10k and a few around £2-4k.

Would you sell all of those or just the big one?

Post by **Mr Green** » 15 Jan 2008, 12:33

Dr Bunker - Firstly, remember it's really only the "Price Change" figure that's relevant in terms of future data-based house price changes. A property that has a "Total Profit" of 4k which consists entirely of bonuses hasn't actually increased in value as such at all.

However, if a property has a "Price Change" of 5k-10k thus far in the game (especially if most/all of it was gained in the last month), I would certainly think seriously about trading it in - as I have done with my own detached property in Bath this month after it increased from £377,500 to £387,300 during last month.

It's tough to say with "Price Change" increases of 2k-4k. I guess it depends on the trend - if it's gone down then up, then I would lean towards selling, whereas if it's gone up then down, then I'd more likely hang onto it...

However, I ain't no expert...

Mr Green

Post by **DrBunker** » 15 Jan 2008, 13:05

Mr Green wrote:Dr Bunker - Firstly, remember it's really only the "Price Change" figure that's relevant in terms of future data-based house price changes. A property that has a "Total Profit" of 4k which consists entirely of bonuses hasn't actually increased in value as such at all.

However, if a property has a "Price Change" of 5k-10k thus far in the game (especially if most/all of it was gained in the last month), I would certainly think seriously about trading it in - as I have done with my own detached property in Bath this month after it increased from £377,500 to £387,300 during last month (not that I can win anything, of course!)

It's tough to say with "Price Change" increases of 2k-4k. I guess it depends on the trend - if it's gone down then up, then I would lean towards selling, whereas if it's gone up then down, then I'd more likely hang onto it...

However, I ain't no expert...

Mr Green

Bye bye Bath it is then.

Thanks

Post by **Spencer4** » 01 Feb 2008, 12:13

"Neil Timms now the highest-placed male entrant in third."

Go Timmsy

Post by **murf** » 01 Feb 2008, 12:16

Spencer4 wrote:"Neil Timms now the highest-placed male entrant in third."

Timmsy is getting beaten by a couple of girls

Post by **tedbull** » 01 Feb 2008, 13:03

Holy cow - I came 3rd this month! 100 pound John Lewis vouchers and a bottle of bubbly.

I haven't touched this since I picked my original properties!

Post by **Spencer4** » 01 Feb 2008, 13:09

tedbull wrote:Holy cow - I came 3rd this month! 100 pound John Lewis vouchers and a bottle of bubbly.

I haven't touched this since I picked my original properties!

Do you have John Lewis?

Post by **tedbull** » 01 Feb 2008, 13:11

Yes, I'm a resident of the United Kingdom.

Post by **tedbull** » 01 Feb 2008, 13:14

I actually came joint 2nd but got bumped to third. Can anyone understand the T&Cs? It looks like I lost 200 quid by entering later than Mr Taylor. Harsh.

Anyway, that's my first ever fantasy game prize. And one Christmas present sorted nice and early.

20. Prizes are awarded and winners selected on the basis of the most profit made for the prize period. In the event of two or more entrants achieving the same total profit (or the same loss) within the Competition for any prize period, a tie-break will come into effect. In such circumstances, the winner will be determined by which entrant has gained the most profit (or least loss) based on property data-based fluctuations during the relevant period. If there is still no separating the tied entrants, the entrant who entered the Competition earliest will be declared the winner. In all matters, the decision of the judge(s) and Channel 4 shall be final and no correspondence or discussion shall be entered into.

Post by **Mr Green** » 06 Feb 2008, 13:13

Tedbull - You actually entered earlier than Alan Taylor, who was awarded the runner-up prize for Game Month 4.

However, Alan was placed higher by the fact that £24,500 of his profit in Game Month 4 came from Land Registry based price fluctuations, whereas only £22,600 of your profit came from the same source (meaning that you benefited more from the news-based price fluctuations).

Post by **timmsy** » 06 Feb 2008, 16:57

Pleased with my results as they have been nice and consistent

I don't however think I can catch up, I've had a few nice touches but not the one big hit you need

My best performing property made 11.7k the person in first place made 51.9k on one property alone

I can't believe all the people that had the massive profits in Twickenham failed to bank them

I'm a touch under 28k down on 1st place and unless I get lucky that's a big big gap

Post by **tedbull** » 08 Feb 2008, 02:50

Mr Green wrote:Tedbull - You actually entered earlier than Alan Taylor, who was awarded the runner-up prize for Game Month 4.

However, Alan was placed higher by the fact that £24,500 of his profit in Game Month 4 came from Land Registry based price fluctuations, whereas only £22,600 of your profit came from the same source (meaning that you benefited more from the news-based price fluctuations).

Darn it. Oh well, my first ever fantasy game prize secured.

Thanks for the reply.

Post by **timmsy** » 29 Feb 2008, 11:32

Very quiet month only small changes to prices with current leader 24k ahead of second and 27k ahead of me

The fat lady isn't singing but if I was Rachel I'd checking out flights to Spain

Overall

1 neil timms man in a suit 47500 23800 71300
2 mark cooke overseas 24800 23700 48500
3 Edward Ball tedbull 19500 24000 43500
4 steve king ishoudbesolucky pierre 13100 24200 37300
5 ali savran Ucan Kenevir 6900 20700 27600
6 josie morrissey bilbobagins 4400 23100 27500
7 Duncan Hoyle Norman Lamont's Advisor 4000 22600 26600
8 Leila Howden Homes 3700 22600 26300
9 Jason Armstrong oggy's dream homes 3900 21000 24900
10 andy wood Stick's assets 2400 21900 24300
11 Sam David Trading Places -600 24600 24000
12 Mike Wishart Dantes Dream 1900 21600 23500
13 Paul McGeoghan Pot luck -300 23400 23100
14 John Potts POTTSVILLE -1000 23300 22300
15 David Nuttie nutstars 1700 20400 22100
16 John Mark Lowther JML & Daughter properties -1100 21800 20700
17 Jason Murfitt murf's portfolioioioio -900 20900 20000
18 Baz Sahathevan Mongose Property Crash -1300 21000 19700
19 eddy peyton Amoks Folly -4900 24100 19200
20 Chris King FISO -400 18100 17700
21 David MacRae Primitive Prefabs -1000 18400 17400
22 James Kempster Happy House Hunters -5700 22900 17200
23 Nigel Dodds The Homes Of Dodd -4200 20600 16400
24 Christopher Bond bonds_bargains -5600 21900 16300
25 Philip Ollerenshaw Pock Property investments -5300 21200 15900
26 harriet k harriet 1700 13600 15300
27 Anthony Greenman KaKaPortfolio -5600 20500 14900
28 John Hunt JHT - West Camel 900 13400 14300
29 Eric Stevenson Bones and mortar -10400 23400 13000
30 Gordon Jones Negative Equity -3900 16500 12600
31 Tim Miller John Terraced -12700 23900 11200
32 Thomas Marshall Toms Bricks and Mortar -8500 19500 11000
33 Mike Maguire Railway Cuttings, Inc -10900 21200 10300
34 Pete Taberner Motorhead -12200 22100 9900
35 Ian Townsend Lucky7s -11800 19800 8000
36 Peter McCluskey Peter Property -9100 15500 6400
37 mark davis The Governor -23400 22100 -1300
38 Julian Clements Subsidence issues -38400 24700 -13700
39 Julian Ravilious Pigeon Loft -72500 21500 -51000

Month 5

1 Philip Ollerenshaw Pock Property investments 0 4900 4900
2 andy wood Stick's assets 0 4500 4500
3 Edward Ball tedbull 0 4400 4400
3 Julian Clements Subsidence issues 0 4400 4400
3 John Potts POTTSVILLE 0 4400 4400
6 mark cooke overseas 0 4100 4100
6 Gordon Jones Negative Equity 0 4100 4100
8 harriet k harriet 0 4000 4000
9 neil timms man in a suit 0 3900 3900
9 Eric Stevenson Bones and mortar 0 3900 3900

Post by **Spencer4** » 29 Feb 2008, 11:36

Great stuff

Post by **timmsy** » 29 Feb 2008, 15:01

Spencer4 wrote:Great stuff

That's only our league I'm not winning

Or are you Philip?

Post by **Spencer4** » 29 Feb 2008, 15:03

timmsy wrote:
Spencer4 wrote:Great stuff
That's only our league I'm not winning

Sh*t, I thought I was 39th

Actually Mrs SP4 has thrashed me at this. I spent 10 minutes explaining it to her and within 3 weeks she had a team in the top 50. Realizing I had to do something I changed everything...and ended up losing 12,000 places

Let the game finish soon please.

Post by **timmsy** » 29 Feb 2008, 16:00

Spencer4 wrote:
timmsy wrote:
Spencer4 wrote:Great stuff
That's only our league I'm not winning
Sh*t, I thought I was 39th

Actually Mrs SP4 has thrashed me at this. I spent 10 minutes explaining it to her and within 3 weeks she had a team in the top 50. Realizing I had to do something I changed everything...and ended up losing 12,000 places

Let the game finish soon please.

Not over as fast as I thought

I thought that was the month end but this one goes on till the 7th of March

Post by **timmsy** » 07 Mar 2008, 18:40

The Fat Lady has cleared her throat and I won't be winning

Top 10 overall

1 Rachel Drain Lancashire Sun 137800
2 Patricia Hobson Corfu Dream 106500
3 neil timms man in a suit 96400
4 Peter Gerald Lally Mini Make Over 77400
5 Matt Sims Home Alone 73500
6 Laura Taylor LET2Buyer 68100
7 Rachel Smyth Sleeping Tycoon 66100
8 andy brindle PID 65800
9 Chris Taylor CJT 62000
10 wendy french wendys 61500

Top 5 overall Month 5

1 Patricia Hobson Corfu Dream 47500
2 katrina brooks swn y mor 44500
3 Rachel Drain Lancashire Sun 42800
4 Elshad Huseynov Elshad's Investments 42800
5 Matthew Ella What about a Caravan 41600

Post by **timmsy** » 07 Mar 2008, 18:41

FISO Month 5

1 neil timms man in a suit 23200 5800 29000
2 Leila Howden Homes 11900 4100 16000
3 Peter McCluskey Peter Property 8400 5400 13800
4 Gordon Jones Negative Equity 6000 6900 12900
5 James Kempster Happy House Hunters 5200 5700 10900
6 Philip Ollerenshaw Pock Property investments 2900 6900 9800
7 John Potts POTTSVILLE 3200 5300 8500
8 Anthony Greenman KaKaPortfolio 3100 4300 7400
9 ali savran Ucan Kenevir 2000 5100 7100
10 Jason Murfitt murf's portfolioioioio 2500 4000 6500
11 Ian Townsend Lucky7s 1400 4700 6100
12 Paul McGeoghan Pot luck 1600 3800 5400
13 eddy peyton Amoks Folly 1500 3700 5200
14 andy wood Stick's assets -200 5000 4800
15 Pete Taberner Motorhead -500 4500 4000
16 Eric Stevenson Bones and mortar -1300 4900 3600
17 Chris King FISO -700 4000 3300
18 Thomas Marshall Toms Bricks and Mortar -800 4000 3200
19 Tim Miller John Terraced -1600 4400 2800
20 John Hunt JHT - West Camel -2000 3800 1800
21 Sam David Trading Places -2900 4100 1200
22 Nigel Dodds The Homes Of Dodd -3200 3700 500
23 David MacRae Primitive Prefabs -4600 5100 500
24 Julian Ravilious Pigeon Loft -4300 3900 -400
25 David Nuttie nutstars -5100 4700 -400
26 Mike Wishart Dantes Dream -4100 3600 -500
27 Baz Sahathevan Mongose Property Crash -5300 3500 -1800
28 Duncan Hoyle Norman Lamont's Advisor -7400 3800 -3600
29 josie morrissey bilbobagins -8300 3400 -4900
30 Julian Clements Subsidence issues -10500 5600 -4900
31 Christopher Bond bonds_bargains -10800 5900 -4900
32 mark cooke overseas -10200 5000 -5200
33 Jason Armstrong oggy's dream homes -9900 4500 -5400
34 harriet k harriet -10800 5000 -5800
35 steve king ishoudbesolucky pierre -9700 3700 -6000
36 Mike Maguire Railway Cuttings, Inc -11500 3700 -7800
37 mark davis The Governor -14300 5100 -9200
38 John Mark Lowther JML & Daughter properties -16700 4700 -12000
39 Edward Ball tedbull -28100 6800 -21300

FISO Overall

1 neil timms man in a suit 70700 25700 96400
2 mark cooke overseas 14600 24600 39200
3 Leila Howden Homes 15600 23500 39100
4 ali savran Ucan Kenevir 8900 22100 31000
5 steve king ishoudbesolucky pierre 3400 24200 27600
6 John Potts POTTSVILLE 2200 24200 26400
7 Paul McGeoghan Pot luck 1300 23700 25000
8 andy wood Stick's assets 2200 22400 24600
9 James Kempster Happy House Hunters -500 24800 24300
10 Jason Murfitt murf's portfolioioioio 1600 21400 23000
11 Sam David Trading Places -3500 25100 21600
12 Gordon Jones Negative Equity 2100 19300 21400
13 Philip Ollerenshaw Pock Property investments -2400 23200 20800
14 eddy peyton Amoks Folly -3400 24100 20700
15 Mike Wishart Dantes Dream -2200 21600 19400
16 Duncan Hoyle Norman Lamont's Advisor -3400 22800 19400
17 josie morrissey bilbobagins -3900 23100 19200
18 Anthony Greenman KaKaPortfolio -2500 21200 18700
19 David Nuttie nutstars -3400 22000 18600
20 Chris King FISO -1100 19400 18300
21 Edward Ball tedbull -8600 26400 17800
22 Peter McCluskey Peter Property -700 18000 17300
23 Jason Armstrong oggy's dream homes -6000 22100 16100
24 David MacRae Primitive Prefabs -5600 20400 14800
25 Baz Sahathevan Mongose Property Crash -6600 21200 14600
26 John Hunt JHT - West Camel -1100 14900 13800
27 Nigel Dodds The Homes Of Dodd -7400 21200 13800
28 Eric Stevenson Bones and mortar -11700 24400 12700
29 Thomas Marshall Toms Bricks and Mortar -9300 20100 10800
30 Pete Taberner Motorhead -12700 23200 10500
31 Ian Townsend Lucky7s -10400 20700 10300
32 Tim Miller John Terraced -14300 24600 10300
33 Christopher Bond bonds_bargains -16400 24000 7600
34 harriet k harriet -9100 14600 5500
35 John Mark Lowther JML & Daughter properties -17800 22900 5100
36 Mike Maguire Railway Cuttings, Inc -22400 22100 -300
37 mark davis The Governor -37700 23600 -14100
38 Julian Clements Subsidence issues -48900 25900 -23000
39 Julian Ravilious Pigeon Loft -76800 22000 -54800

Post by **timmsy** » 04 Apr 2008, 11:58

I'm watching my emails I may have won :shock:

1 neil timms man in a suit 131000
2 Rachel Drain Lancashire Sun 127900
3 Laura Taylor LET2Buyer 106900
4 Patricia Hobson Corfu Dream 105400
5 Matt Sims Ineligible For Prizes 96800
6 Peter Gerald Lally Mini Make Over 91600
7 Ian Hill Nochance 71900
8 GARY HOOD garyplym 71100
9 Shephard Murombedzi Bournemouth 68500
10 Vicky Pulman great incomes 67200

Post by **SamD** » 04 Apr 2008, 12:02

Well done, timmsy *

FISO top 20:
1 neil timms man in a suit 108900 22100 131000
2 andy wood Stick's assets 31300 19200 50500
3 Leila Howden Homes 12300 20100 32400
4 mark cooke overseas 10500 21500 32000
5 steve king ishoudbesolucky pierre 2400 21400 23800
6 Eric Stevenson Bones and mortar 600 21000 21600
7 eddy peyton Amoks Folly 600 20400 21000
8 Edward Ball tedbull -2800 23300 20500
9 Mike Wishart Dantes Dream -100 18000 17900
10 Sam David Trading Places -3600 21500 17900

11 ali savran Ucan Kenevir -1100 18800 17700
12 Paul McGeoghan Pot luck -3100 20400 17300
13 josie morrissey bilbobagins -3700 20100 16400
14 Philip Ollerenshaw Pock Property investments -4900 20200 15300
15 Gordon Jones Negative Equity -2600 17700 15100
16 James Kempster Happy House Hunters -7200 22200 15000
17 John Potts POTTSVILLE -9800 21100 11300
18 harriet k harriet -1300 11900 10600
19 Chris King FISO -6600 16900 10300
20 David MacRae Primitive Prefabs -8300 18300 10000

* just remember who told you about the contest...

Post by **timmsy** » 04 Apr 2008, 12:05

SamD wrote:Well done, timmsy.

just remember who told you about the contest...

Where do you live because if I have won you and me are going for a drink

Post by **tedbull** » 04 Apr 2008, 12:07

You've won this?

Post by **murf** » 04 Apr 2008, 12:08

Many congratulations (I hope) timmsy - I assume you have been checking so is that the final, final update????
I note noon was the end of the comp.

Post by **pottster** » 04 Apr 2008, 12:08

Bloody hell! well done - what have you won - is a it a property in Spain or cash equvalent?

Post by **tedbull** » 04 Apr 2008, 12:10

Outstanding work Timmsy - I was just reading earlier in the thread where you said you wouldn't be winning this comp!

Well done!

Post by **Knulpuk** » 04 Apr 2008, 12:12

Goodness me - what a finish - Mrs Drain must have thought it was in the bag.

If that is indeed final - big congratulations!

Post by **timmsy** » 04 Apr 2008, 12:14

Until an email or a call arrives I'm taking nothing for granted but I am getting very excited

Post by **Lucky7s** » 04 Apr 2008, 13:20

Excellent stuff, congrats timmsy.

Post by **Spencer4** » 04 Apr 2008, 13:28

Great stuff, when are we going

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