Yeah, the genuinely gripping battle for yellow happens once every few years, if that... it plays out best when it's a genuine attacking climber trying to distance someone who's a much better time triallist, like the year Evans and Schleck fought it out, with Contador lurking in the background before cracking on the big mountain stage. Froome/Quintana potentially follows that pattern but the Colombian just didn't have the legs this time around, unlike last year when he threatened to reel him in right at the end.
Fortunately every stage is a race in itself though, and there's other contests going on - even if Sagan has made green a foregone conclusion these days as well!
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Well thats true to an extent, but the other GC guys can't tell Poels etc exactly what pace to ride at, when to speed up and when to knock it back a bit, and the Sky Dom's won't drop back to pace them if they have a flat, lend them a bike, chase down moves for them etc.murf wrote:You can talk about Skybots all you like but they pull everybody up the mountain so if anybody is better than Froome they can just sit where he does, do what he does and get a gap in the last (few) km on a summit finish. If Froome was Aru yesterday (or others on other days) then they wouldn't have saved him.
Froome was clearly the strongest GC guy by a mile, and he's likely to be the strongest or at least one of the strongest 2 or 3 for a good few years yet, but it is a massive advantage to have the strongest support team as well. Nothing new in that but Sky are very very strong, and I don't think I've seen a team as single minded in the pursuit of one goal since US Postal (and no, I'm not trying to draw any comparisons between the two in other respects). Its a team sport won by an individual.
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Apropros of not very much but quite interesting generally, the winnings of each team in the Tour have been published.
Sky took home EUR600k, 5/6ths of which was down to the 1st place on GC.
Dimension Data, with 6(?) stage wins got about EUR90k, Lotto-Jumbo EUR20k and Cannondale EUR14k.
Sky are the biggest budget team - GBP24m revenue (of which about £4m comes from race fees and prize money, the rest from sponsors.
Payroll costs about £18m (Medical costs only £300k - some teams obviously a bit higher than this, although no use checking annual reports for the details). A top rider like Froome, Sagan, Cav, Spartacus etc gets around £3m p.a. Domestiques anywhere between £30k for a neo pro water carrier to £500k+ for a Renshaw or a G.
A lot bigger salaries than it used to be to be honest.
Sky took home EUR600k, 5/6ths of which was down to the 1st place on GC.
Dimension Data, with 6(?) stage wins got about EUR90k, Lotto-Jumbo EUR20k and Cannondale EUR14k.
Sky are the biggest budget team - GBP24m revenue (of which about £4m comes from race fees and prize money, the rest from sponsors.
Payroll costs about £18m (Medical costs only £300k - some teams obviously a bit higher than this, although no use checking annual reports for the details). A top rider like Froome, Sagan, Cav, Spartacus etc gets around £3m p.a. Domestiques anywhere between £30k for a neo pro water carrier to £500k+ for a Renshaw or a G.
A lot bigger salaries than it used to be to be honest.
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Twas a boring GC Tour as even Froome didn't put on a show apart from in the TTs (downhill and crosswind attacks were impressive tbf). Fantasy and other interests (eg Cav's revival, etc) compensated. Also back loading meant I was 100% sure it was over till the third week.
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entered a quick team as well.paisleypark wrote:Just joined the Vuelta Portugal - more in hope than expectation as I haven't heard of most of the riders.
just looked to see how it was going (not well, although thats not a surprise).
Race ticker is great:
However, a new race situation:
. In front now roll 72 and the ridges 83. In the first intermediate position, a group composed of corridors 7 ridges 5, 6, 56, 94, 133, 143 and 173 to 35s
a second intermediate position the dorsal 61.
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I picked a team for Portugal in 30 seconds before going on holiday - its doing horribly
Was way to busy to be able to do TdF league updates during the race, but will do a final table for the records at some point this week.
VElogames should have the Vuelta up soon - he's awaiting a bit more of a solidified startlist for the main contenders.
Was way to busy to be able to do TdF league updates during the race, but will do a final table for the records at some point this week.
VElogames should have the Vuelta up soon - he's awaiting a bit more of a solidified startlist for the main contenders.
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A bit later than intended but a final round up from the Tour de France
Congratulations to Laudrup86 on his first Grand Tour.
KING OF THE MOUNTAINS Far more prestigious I've always thought....
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1 6764 points Laudrup86 D Edwards 873rd
2 6730 points POM Racing The Pom 962nd
3 6554 points Froome Dog & The Dweebs bagpuss 1589th
4 6439 points Old Trafford Cycling Canto
5 6342 points ooozzzie on the tour Paul Hughes
6 6304 points Killercycles Rick Spangle
7 6174 points Donegal Racers Paul McGeoghan
8 6099 points Wheels of Titanium Mo bot
9 6087 points PATHETICO ATHLETICO Mark Teague
10 6042 points Huffer Puffers Noel Symonds
11 6024 points Ten Dam, I wish I was your lover Count Darchi
12 6008 points Dingers Revenge Patrician
13 6006 points A.M. Postal Service Moist von Lipwig
14 5918 points murf`s mob murf
15 5682 points Cardiff Ajax CC Ian Herbert
16 5598 points Pigeons Spencer4
17 5529 points Dorset Cereal Speedfest Danny Harris
18 5436 points Mobreizh Morgan
19 5384 points Super Confex Patrick Horne
20 5186 points NickiS�¶ Matti
21 5008 points Sexual Wheeling Terry V. Bullen
22 4859 points TDF BEARS Douglas Hay
23 4682 points SPR Eagle Eye Racing SPR
24 4634 points Paisley`s Pedalers Paul Quirk
25 4584 points flahutes simon
26 4535 points Le Tour De Alchemy Andrew Harvey
27 4240 points Peloton Brief Simon Brown
28 4196 points Equipe Mons Graham
29 4168 points St Malo to Brazil Zoophonic
30 4106 points Sink to My Pyrenees Department_S
31 4071 points GreatestShowOnTurf james r
32 3971 points Dust Trailers Ashley Bloodworth
33 3805 points Le Peoples Tour de France Michael Robinson
KING OF THE MOUNTAINS Far more prestigious I've always thought....
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1 4315 points A.M. Postal Service Moist von Lipwig 21st
2 4052 points SPR - The Eagle Soars SPR 59th
3 3750 points Alchemists Mounting Goats Andy Harvey 129th
4 3075 points THE king of the mountains Laudrup86
5 3052 points Old Trafford Cycling team Canto
6 2658 points Donegal Climbers Paul McGeoghan
7 2653 points Equipe Mons Graham
8 2552 points MOUNTAIN BEARS DOUGLAS HAY
9 2538 points Etakahuna Riders Just A Kiwi
10 2504 points Peloton Brief Sibrown4
11 2278 points St Albans CC GeoffV
12 2160 points Mountain Goats Paul Quirk
13 2085 points murf`s mob murf
14 1846 points Sexual Wheeling Terry V. Bullen
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