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If Henry gets MoM I will explode with rage!

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Carrick was awarded Man of the Match

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tonysymonds wrote:I hate to be snippy but what was the point of repeating my post, with, in fact, LESS information?
I didn't. You hadn't put Tainio in as a KC. You've edited it now though, presumably after viewing my post, so don't try and make me look stupid.

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he makes a valid point plus if youre going to bother to include yellow and red cards at least include them all.

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Riise Goal ( No KC and No Free Kick :wink: )

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crabby848 wrote:he makes a valid point plus if youre going to bother to include yellow and red cards at least include them all.
I put the yellow cards in purely as Davids got sent off because of the two yellows. I know Pires also got booked.

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2-0 Garcia (-)

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Final Score in Cup Semi after watching goals live or at the end.

Liverpool 2-1 Chelsea
Riise (-)
Garcia (-)
Drogba (-)

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Not sure who will get MoM? Kewell played very well but will he be forgotten about after being subbed?
Also worried about his injury the physio seemed to be fairly sure he was knacked

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No KC for Gerrard with the first goal? :)

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axel wrote:No KC for Gerrard with the first goal? :)
I think there might be as Gerrard didn't actually take the free kick (Riise did) so when he played it that was in 'free play'.

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murf wrote:
axel wrote:No KC for Gerrard with the first goal? :)
I think there might be as Gerrard didn't actually take the free kick (Riise did) so when he played it that was in 'free play'.
Yep - should be a nailed on KC (certinaly hope so anyway :P )

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I thought outside the area rarely got KC?

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Drogba did more last week and didn't get one. Can't see how anyone can even clutch at the Gerrard KC straw.

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I've looked at it again on tonights MOTD and I'd be extremely surprised if Gerrard got a KC. True it wasn't the usual six inch tap from a free kick that we know won't get a KC, but, it was outside the area, didn't split the defence, I just can't see it being given myself. So, onto the EPL ...

*** Now confirmed on TTF ***

Arsenal 1-1 Tottenham
Keane (Davids, Tainio) Tainio not predicted
Henry (Adebayor)

Newcastle 3-0 West Brom
Solano (-)
Ameobi (-)
Ameobi (N'Zogbia)

Portsmouth 2-1 Sunderland
Miller (Arca)
Todorov (-)
Taylor (-)

Everton 0-0 Birmingham

Bolton 4-1 Charlton
Vaz Te (Nakata)
Davies (Borgetti)
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D Bent (-)
Davies (-)
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Gpt to agree with Bram. Stopping the ball and stepping back surely can't count as a KC, so no extra points for Gerrard.

Doesn't matter anyway as surely everyone has Gerrard.

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I've got a sneaky feeling having watched Match of the Day that Henry might get MOTM for the quality of his goal. Though having watched live on TV it should surely be Lennon.

No obvious choice for CHE - LIV though Kewell must be a front runner.

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For Liverpool v Chelsea ~~Mo~M surely Hyypia must be in with a shout? He put in some sterling blocks and challenges and was all over the park.

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sami was immense but so was kewell

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I'm no good at these KC's and respect Bram like a God so I take it that there's no chance of a Davies KC for the Borgetti goal? Davies touch played Borgetti well into the penalty box where he took one touch before slotting home. Straw clutching perhaps :roll:

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The Ledge wrote:I'm no good at these KC's and respect Bram like a God so I take it that there's no chance of a Davies KC for the Borgetti goal? Davies touch played Borgetti well into the penalty box where he took one touch before slotting home. Straw clutching perhaps :roll:
The problem is that his touch was tangled up with Chris Perry who I'm sure touched the ball as well, so KCs before then will get wiped out.

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Bramernic wrote:
The Ledge wrote:I'm no good at these KC's and respect Bram like a God so I take it that there's no chance of a Davies KC for the Borgetti goal? Davies touch played Borgetti well into the penalty box where he took one touch before slotting home. Straw clutching perhaps :roll:
The problem is that his touch was tangled up with Chris Perry who I'm sure touched the ball as well, so KCs before then will get wiped out.
Thanks for clarifying Bram - didn't notice any intervention myself but I ain't arguing (unlike some others on this forum).

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For those doubting a Kewell MOTM, here are the views of the Liverpool website jury:

Kewell 4424
Carragher 538
Garcia 477
Sissoko 389
Riise 347
Gerrard 290
Alonso 247
Hyypia 229
Reina 89

(not sure how Sissoko is 4th - I thought that was his worst appearance in a red shirt! Alonso was the main boss in central midfield)

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that's a pretty massive lead he's got there....surely he'll get it...

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I hope so - I need some bonus points from players that no one else in my league has!

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MOTM bets;

Kewell (outstanding) or Hyypia (rock)
Carrick (inspiring) or Henry (saviour)
Ameobi (Alan who?)
Borghetti (hands in all important goals)
Taylor (match winner)
Taylor (Brummie keeper)

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KCs for Ashton and Ferdinand for the Goal

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Bramernic wrote:
The Ledge wrote:I'm no good at these KC's and respect Bram like a God so I take it that there's no chance of a Davies KC for the Borgetti goal? Davies touch played Borgetti well into the penalty box where he took one touch before slotting home. Straw clutching perhaps :roll:
The problem is that his touch was tangled up with Chris Perry who I'm sure touched the ball as well, so KCs before then will get wiped out.
The Charlton player definitely touched the ball but don't the rules say that a significant touch by a defender will negate any KCs? In my opinion Perry didn't change the direction of the ball much, so Davies should still get a KC. And while we're on the Bolton game, won't Okocha get one for his long throw that Myhre fumbled to Davies? Also I think Vaz Te's header was clean, no double-deflection like the Chelsea goal last week.

And no KC for Tainio, Bram?

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Man of the matches (from website):

Michael Carrick (Tottenham)
Shola Ameobi (Newcastle)
Leon Osman (Everton)
Sean Davis (Portsmouth)
Ivan Campo (Bolton).

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reds363 wrote:The Charlton player definitely touched the ball but don't the rules say that a significant touch by a defender will negate any KCs? In my opinion Perry didn't change the direction of the ball much, so Davies should still get a KC. And while we're on the Bolton game, won't Okocha get one for his long throw that Myhre fumbled to Davies? Also I think Vaz Te's header was clean, no double-deflection like the Chelsea goal last week.

And no KC for Tainio, Bram?
I've looked again at the video and this is my reasoning in each case:
1) It looked like Borgetti was trying to cross the ball and Perry stopped it in it's tracks so Borgetti could instead shoot himself.
2) Davies kicked the ball twice after the long throw so I read that as too much work for a KC for the throw - I could be wrong.
3) Vaz Te's header looked clean, but the commentator threw doubt, hence I noted the possibility in itallics.
4) I think Davids did too much for a Tainio KC.

Finally, in the second semi, I agree with Judio and others - 2 KCs.

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