Thought it was +2 (appear) +5 (goal) +3 ( assist) -3 (booking) = +7 ?yeboah wrote:8 pts aint it? 5 + 3...jacksosi wrote:BBC are showing a booking , but still 7 pts
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Drogba tracked back, made a fantastic tackle, carried the ball for 15-20 yards before supplying Lampard with a pass and will not get an assist. In my mind that's even more a travesty than some of the diabolical man of the match awards this season.reds363 wrote:Drogba won't get a KC despite his good work in tackling back, Lampard was too far out when he received the ball and it wasn't even a first-time shot.
Bram predicted one for Zogs for the Luque goal however he had an awful lot to do before he scored ....did he get it?AkNotSpur wrote:Player points are now up on the TTF site. RVN got a KC for Rooney's first goal against Spurs, Eboue got one for Bergkamp's goal against WBA, Lampard one for Terry's goal v Bolton and another for Drogba's goal v Everton. Nothing for Steve Davis' hair-line flick against Brum.
6 points in TTF for N'Zogbia yesterday, 1 PA + 5 Goal onlyFoxtrot wrote:Bram predicted one for Zogs for the Luque goal however he had an awful lot to do before he scored ....did he get it?AkNotSpur wrote:Player points are now up on the TTF site. RVN got a KC for Rooney's first goal against Spurs, Eboue got one for Bergkamp's goal against WBA, Lampard one for Terry's goal v Bolton and another for Drogba's goal v Everton. Nothing for Steve Davis' hair-line flick against Brum.
Just doing those - anything older than the previous day takes longer to search for on the TTF website.mstylianou wrote:Hi Bram, thanks as always. Are the KCs from the 15th confirmed?
I've reviewed the video from last night to see why these three weren't given.Bramernic wrote:Not a very good day yesterday for predictions.Foxtrot wrote:Bram predicted one for Zogs for the Luque goal however he had an awful lot to do before he scored ....did he get it?
No to N'Zogbia, Ambrose, Maccarone (and Johnson isn't a TFF player ). Otherwise yesterdays were all given.
I've reviewed the video from last night to see why these three weren't given.Bramernic wrote:Bramernic wrote:Not a very good day yesterday for predictions.Foxtrot wrote:Bram predicted one for Zogs for the Luque goal however he had an awful lot to do before he scored ....did he get it?
No to N'Zogbia, Ambrose, Maccarone (and Johnson isn't a TFF player ). Otherwise yesterdays were all given.
Give over. If you don't get an assist, you don't get an assist. Simple as. There's no underlying conspiracy. I didn't think it warranted an assist it didn't get one. Simple as.Foxtrot wrote: 3) I can't understand why Maccarone didn't get one. His return to Bates took out two defenders and Bates passed first time to Hasselbaink. Can anyone else see why there was only one KC here?[/quote]
Can't really remember the goal but generally I get the impression that some of the less high profile players seem to miss out on these marginal decisions. If it was Henry or Rooney you can bet it would have been given.
axel wrote:That MOTM award is bollocks. How many does Rooney have now?
Charlton 2-1 Portsmouth - D Bent by Martin Smithscarletjim wrote:Rooney again?
Chill out Tony I was just giving my personal opinion, if you disagree fine but don't write as if you're on the KC panel!tonysymonds wrote:Give over. If you don't get an assist, you don't get an assist. Simple as. There's no underlying conspiracy. I didn't think it warranted an assist it didn't get one. Simple as.Foxtrot wrote: 3) I can't understand why Maccarone didn't get one. His return to Bates took out two defenders and Bates passed first time to Hasselbaink. Can anyone else see why there was only one KC here?[/quote]
Can't really remember the goal but generally I get the impression that some of the less high profile players seem to miss out on these marginal decisions. If it was Henry or Rooney you can bet it would have been given.
I've notcied an increasing disparity in this site in that people are always quick to jump on the bandwagon if thee's something they don't agree on, wether it's a MOTM decision, an assist or what have you. The simple truth is, one man thought the world was round, while everyone disagreed. Turns out he was right.
A majority view doesn't make it a correct view.
Foxtrot wrote:
I get the impression that some of the less high profile players seem to miss out on these marginal decisions. If it was Henry or Rooney you can bet it would have been given.
Im all for discussing KC, but your post was tantamant to say the Telegraph is cheating.Foxtrot wrote:
Chill out Tony I was just giving my personal opinion, if you disagree fine but don't write as if you're on the KC panel!
Finally! It's only taken until April for somebody to realise the fundamental flaw in MOTM. As I said pre season, you'll be getting players scoring a brace which will more often than not become an effective hat-trick.scarletjim wrote:Er, Rooney scored two goals, for which he will be awarded 10 TFF points, so that element of the match has already got it's reward.Elvis77 wrote:I agree with the previous MOTM comments to a point about the Man U game though to be fair Rooney done most to win a very important game.
Gooners
....I'm not saying there is any cheating going on ....whoever it is that decides on KCs in the Tele office, perhaps spends more time considering the bigger games / players when reviewing these things.tonysymonds wrote:Foxtrot wrote:
I get the impression that some of the less high profile players seem to miss out on these marginal decisions. If it was Henry or Rooney you can bet it would have been given.
Im all for discussing KC, but your post was tantamant to say the Telegraph is cheating.Foxtrot wrote:
Chill out Tony I was just giving my personal opinion, if you disagree fine but don't write as if you're on the KC panel!
OK Tony, you seem to have a pretty firm view of the goal in question, so look at it this way ...tonysymonds wrote:Give over. If you don't get an assist, you don't get an assist. Simple as. There's no underlying conspiracy. I didn't think it warranted an assist it didn't get one. Simple as.Foxtrot wrote:Can't really remember the goal but generally I get the impression that some of the less high profile players seem to miss out on these marginal decisions. If it was Henry or Rooney you can bet it would have been given.Bramernic wrote: 3) I can't understand why Maccarone didn't get one. His return to Bates took out two defenders and Bates passed first time to Hasselbaink. Can anyone else see why there was only one KC here?
It was the runs. When Ronaldo ran onto the ball there was far less of a sharp movement on his part. What this meant was thatVan Nistelrooy's pass created the opportunity for Ronaldo to cross.Bramernic wrote:
OK Tony, you seem to have a pretty firm view of the goal in question, so look at it this way ...
Ronaldo passes to RvN on the touchline and runs through to receive the ball back on the byline and crosses first time to Rooney who scores. 2 KCs.
Bates passes to Maccarone on the touchline and runs through to receive the ball back on the byline and crosses first time to Hasselbaink who scores. Only 1 KC.
I know the Man United scenario was more spaced out, but the movements and defenders taken out by each move were similar. So why the difference? What have you seen that makes you so sure that Boro's goal was only ever going to get one KC?
That was surely more down to compressed nature of the Boro move. Maccarone put the ball exactly where Bates wanted it, if he hadn't the move would have broken down.tonysymonds wrote:It was the runs. When Ronaldo ran onto the ball there was far less of a sharp movement on his part. What this meant was thatVan Nistelrooy's pass created the opportunity for Ronaldo to cross.
With Middlesborough, Bates had to run more to get to the return ball. In my opinion it was Bates movement more than Maccarone's pass that created the opportunity for him to cross and score.
Good spot jimboblue, I'll amend the post for Saturday. That wasn't expected so I'll now have to try and find Saturday's MOTD on the video to see what I missed.crabby848 wrote:yeh the KC discussion is for mondays game thats why matejimboblue wrote:Not sure if I'm missing something here, but Ambrose has been given a KC in week 36. As his daily points are showing as 1 and he didn't play in the Cup at Boro, it appears that this is for Euell's goal on Saturday.
Ok, this is obviously exaggerated but anyway;Bramernic wrote:That was surely more down to compressed nature of the Boro move. Maccarone put the ball exactly where Bates wanted it, if he hadn't the move would have broken down.tonysymonds wrote:It was the runs. When Ronaldo ran onto the ball there was far less of a sharp movement on his part. What this meant was thatVan Nistelrooy's pass created the opportunity for Ronaldo to cross.
With Middlesborough, Bates had to run more to get to the return ball. In my opinion it was Bates movement more than Maccarone's pass that created the opportunity for him to cross and score.