Week 21 KCs and MotM Jan 2nd,6th and 7th

Post by **crabby** » 02 Jan 2007, 23:36

no for motw mate.

Post by **browny** » 02 Jan 2007, 23:37

tonyp wrote:17pts according to this table.

497 v 514

What was bottom of the top 20?

Post by **tonyp** » 02 Jan 2007, 23:39

267pts was 20th in MOTM (Mr J Dodd)

Post by **browny** » 02 Jan 2007, 23:42

tonyp wrote:267pts was 20th in MOTM (Mr J Dodd)

Could you post the top 20 please?

Post by **anon6** » 03 Jan 2007, 06:13

tonyp wrote:267pts was 20th in MOTM (Mr J Dodd)

267 sounds a bit low

Post by **thespecialone** » 03 Jan 2007, 07:26

anon1086 wrote:
tonyp wrote:267pts was 20th in MOTM (Mr J Dodd)
267 sounds a bit low

misprint.had to have been 467.
will post top 20 on thread.

Post by **SamD** » 03 Jan 2007, 09:52

Newspaper erroneously added above name & points to December table.
The 20th team has 473 points (see TFF password & leaderboard thread).

Post by **stormy** » 03 Jan 2007, 10:16

SamD wrote:Newspaper erroneously added above name & points to December table.
The 20th team has 473 points (see TFF password & leaderboard thread).

Does it give a team name for Mr J Dodd, (we have one in our S/L -Team Gnarls)?

Post by **murf** » 03 Jan 2007, 10:22

stormy wrote:
SamD wrote:Newspaper erroneously added above name & points to December table.
The 20th team has 473 points (see TFF password & leaderboard thread).
Does it give a team name for Mr J Dodd, (we have one in our S/L -Team Gnarls)?

All listed on the MOTM thread: http://www.fantasyfootballuk.co.uk/view ... &start=500

Looks like J Dodd is just one of Browny's many guises....

Post by **stormy** » 03 Jan 2007, 10:27

murf wrote:
stormy wrote:
SamD wrote:Newspaper erroneously added above name & points to December table.
The 20th team has 473 points (see TFF password & leaderboard thread).
Does it give a team name for Mr J Dodd, (we have one in our S/L -Team Gnarls)?
All listed on the MOTM thread: http://www.fantasyfootballuk.co.uk/view ... &start=500

Looks like J Dodd is just one of Browny's many guises....

Cheers Murf - and congrats on the £50

Post by **Yer Old Da** » 03 Jan 2007, 12:04

Bramernic wrote:Nothing to add to earlier posts re KCs (I've also seen the goals on SSN).

However, from the Telegraph website:

Thierry Henry by John Ley
Gavin McCann by Henry Winter

Henry was always going to get it, it was a sentimental vote. I'm not denying he had a good game, but how the f*ck did Carson not get it? I know he conceded 4 but he made at least 3 world class saves.

F*cking telegraph, I'm still spewing that the website went on the blink as I tried to fire Henry in.

Post by **mstylianou** » 03 Jan 2007, 17:27

His saves didn't dramatically change the result though did they? A thrashing was still a thrashing.

I was at the game and thought Carson was immense, but Henry really took the game by the scruff and started to win back some of the doubters. I don't have any problem with the MOTM award.

Post by **snowy** » 04 Jan 2007, 08:52

Yer Old Da wrote:
Bramernic wrote:Nothing to add to earlier posts re KCs (I've also seen the goals on SSN).

However, from the Telegraph website:

Thierry Henry by John Ley
Gavin McCann by Henry Winter
Henry was always going to get it, it was a sentimental vote. I'm not denying he had a good game, but how the f*ck did Carson not get it? I know he conceded 4 but he made at least 3 world class saves.

F*cking telegraph, I'm still spewing that the website went on the blink as I tried to fire Henry in.

Hmmmn, Henry scored one, set one up, won a pen, hit the post, had one cleared off the line, along with several other efforts, and in general played very well and determined the outcome of the game....but you'd rather have it given to a goalkeeper who, despite making some great saves, conceded four goals...

Post by **Mystery** » 04 Jan 2007, 13:53

snowy wrote:Hmmmn, Henry scored one, set one up, won a pen, hit the post, had one cleared off the line, along with several other efforts, and in general played very well and determined the outcome of the game....but you'd rather have it given to a goalkeeper who, despite making some great saves, conceded four goals...

Wouldn't be the first time the Telegraph reporter chose to give it to a worthy player on a badly beaten team. I'm sure I recall earlier this season a defender on the wrong end of a 3-0 was given MotM.

Post by **anon6** » 04 Jan 2007, 13:59

Mystery wrote:
snowy wrote:Hmmmn, Henry scored one, set one up, won a pen, hit the post, had one cleared off the line, along with several other efforts, and in general played very well and determined the outcome of the game....but you'd rather have it given to a goalkeeper who, despite making some great saves, conceded four goals...
Wouldn't be the first time the Telegraph reporter chose to give it to a worthy player on a badly beaten team. I'm sure I recall earlier this season a defender on the wrong end of a 3-0 was given MotM.

And what about the time MOTM was given to the striker from a team which lost 3-0

Post by **Bramernic** » 06 Jan 2007, 19:11

After watching MOTD:

Liverpool 1-3 Arsenal
Rosicky (Hleb)
Rosicky (-)
Kuyt (Pennant, Crouch)
Henry (-)

Post by **bossman** » 06 Jan 2007, 20:05

Henry (Carragher)

Post by **T-boy** » 06 Jan 2007, 20:31

bossman wrote:Henry (Carragher)

I think Henry may have still had about 20 touches before scoring, so no KC

Post by **Mystery** » 06 Jan 2007, 22:49

Bramernic wrote:After watching MOTD:

Liverpool 1-3 Arsenal
Rosicky (Hleb)
Rosicky (-)
Kuyt (Pennant, Crouch)
Henry (-)

Nothing to add there - perhaps worth mentioning that Eboue will get 2 points in total despite being yanked off the pitch before he got himself sent off.

Post by **Bollo** » 06 Jan 2007, 23:00

Mystery wrote:
Bramernic wrote:After watching MOTD:

Liverpool 1-3 Arsenal
Rosicky (Hleb)
Rosicky (-)
Kuyt (Pennant, Crouch)
Henry (-)
Nothing to add there - perhaps worth mentioning that Eboue will get 2 points in total despite being yanked off the pitch before he got himself sent off.

am i right in thinking that is that is 2 points for his part clean sheet - did he get a yellow to cancel his 2 appearance points?

Post by **stormy** » 06 Jan 2007, 23:11

Bollo wrote:
Mystery wrote:
Bramernic wrote:After watching MOTD:

Liverpool 1-3 Arsenal
Rosicky (Hleb)
Rosicky (-)
Kuyt (Pennant, Crouch)
Henry (-)
Nothing to add there - perhaps worth mentioning that Eboue will get 2 points in total despite being yanked off the pitch before he got himself sent off.
am i right in thinking that is that is 2 points for his part clean sheet - did he get a yellow to cancel his 2 appearance points?

YEP he got a yellow

Post by **Javahart** » 06 Jan 2007, 23:34

Definite Lampard KC for SWP goal (source = MOTD)

I will put my neck out and say he will get MOM too = 23 points!!!

Post by **Bramernic** » 06 Jan 2007, 23:41

I'm not looking forward to the last bit of MOTD. KCs may not all be possible to identify. So far we've had the two prem teams who failed to score, the two who were on live earlier and Chelsea. I'm recording because many of the other goals won't get action replays or commentary, so we'll see how much I can work out. In the meantime:

Chelsea
Lampard (Kalou, Wright-Phillips)
Lampard (-)
Lampard (Shevchenko)
Wright-Phillips (Lampard)
Mikel (-)
Carvalho (Wright-Phillips)

Post by **reds363** » 07 Jan 2007, 00:53

Small point, but didn't the ball come off the defender after SWP's touch, before Lampard scored his first goal?

Post by **Raisin** » 07 Jan 2007, 00:59

reds363 wrote:Small point, but didn't the ball come off the defender after SWP's touch, before Lampard scored his first goal?

No, don't think so.

Post by **Bramernic** » 07 Jan 2007, 01:15

OK, here's the rest as best as I can make out ...

Newcastle
Taylor (Milner)
Dyer (Martins)

Bolton
Davies (Giannakopoulos)
Teymourian (Davies)
Tal (-)
Teymourian (Davies)

Middlesbrough
Viduka (Yakubu)

Fulham
McBride (Brown)
Volz (-)

Portsmouth 2-1 Wigan
Cole (Davis)
McCulloch (Teale)
Kanu (Johnson)

Watford
Mackay (Smith, whoever headed it on) unless it was a defender, then no KC - the video wasn't conclusive
Smith (Henderson)
Mackay (Stewart)
Ashikodi (-)

West Ham
Noble (Tevez)
Cole (Boa Morte)
Mullins (Newton)

Post by **reds363** » 07 Jan 2007, 01:42

Raisin wrote:
reds363 wrote:Small point, but didn't the ball come off the defender after SWP's touch, before Lampard scored his first goal?
No, don't think so.

Watched it again and agree with you, double KC.

Post by **jimboblue** » 07 Jan 2007, 10:29

Bramernic wrote:
Mackay (Smith, whoever headed it on) unless it was a defender, then no KC - the video wasn't conclusive

My personal opinion is that the defender flicked the ball on, although it's impossible to be sure even after watching several times on super slo-mo! The Watford player involved was Jay DeMerit.

Post by **SamD** » 07 Jan 2007, 12:02

Below are the unofficial* Man of the Match/Star Man decisions for Saturday's Cup ties.
They've been extracted from three newspapers:
- The Sunday Telegraph, Times and Observer respectively.
All played for the winning team, unless stated.

* These are NOT the official, for TFF purposes, Daily Telegraph choices.

Birmingham 2 Newcastle 2 - Nicky Butt; Steven Taylor; Kieran Dyer (all Newc)
Chelsea 6 Macclesfield 1 - Frank Lampard; ditto; ditto
Doncaster 0 Bolton 4 - Andranik Teymourian; ditto; not shown
Liverpool 1 Arsenal 3 - Tomas Rosicky; ditto; ditto
Portsmouth 2 Wigan 1 - Andrew Cole; A Cole; N Kanu
Watford 4 Stockport 1 - not shown; Tommy Smith; not shown
West Ham 3 Brighton 0 - Carlos Tevez; C Tevez; Mark Noble

For completeness, these five did not feature a Premiership man/match:
Hull City 1 Middlesbrough 1
Leicester 2 Fulham 2
Nottm Forest 2 Charlton 0
Reading P Burnley P
Sheff Utd 0 Swansea 3

Post by **fairfranco** » 07 Jan 2007, 15:13

goal for Blackburn

Matt Derbyshire

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