Week 20 KCs and MotM Dec 26th 27th 30th and Jan 1st

[Tricky Tree]

i reckon its for through ball to solskjaer who hit the post that led to ronaldo goal.

Correct, having just found it in 3 hours of video. Now to work out why Arteta didn't get either KC ...

Oh yes, that'll be the one. I'd never thought of that

[Bramernic]

i reckon its for through ball to solskjaer who hit the post that led to ronaldo goal.

Correct, having just found it in 3 hours of video. Now to work out why Arteta didn't get either KC ...

Oh yes, that'll be the one. I'd never thought of that

Sorry Tricky, there were so many replies while I was searching the tape I missed the fact you'd said it first.

[Bramernic]

Did Quedrue get one?

Yes

[crabby]

thank god for that keeps my motw hopes going. Am i right in thinking he scored 1 point against chelsea and 6 vs watford?

[Tricky Tree]

Only messing Bram Great work as ever, even if Gerrard should have had one

[PSA]

Thanks Bram as always.

[Bramernic]

CORRECTION

Recount on Ben Haim - he did get one. I did say that checking Saturday could be tricky with 3 matches to split apart, didn't I?

[thepole]

Are you sure???

He got one for Wigan which is in same week

yep.3'0 clock game saturday.hes been given kc.hes just below ronaldo on my screen who got 15pts for that game.

I thought he got 18 - 2 goals, a KC and MOTM?

[crabby]

he did there looking at tffo where motm doesnt count.

[jimboblue]

Bram - by my calculations the following KCs have been awarded but don't appear in your lists:

30th
Andy Cole for Taylor's goal
Alan Quinn for Nade's goal

1st
Pennant for Gerrard's goal

[Bramernic]

Bram - by my calculations the following KCs have been awarded but don't appear in your lists:

30th
Andy Cole for Taylor's goal
Alan Quinn for Nade's goal

1st
Pennant for Gerrard's goal

That's highly possible. It's difficult to check extra ones that weren't thought of unless you have names in mind. The Pennant one is a little embarrassing though. On my notes I wrote 'poss Pennant', then changed my mind when typing the details in. When I checked this morning I ticked that it had been given, but didn't spot that I hadn't actually typed it in.

The other two - apologies, but Saturday was very difficult to isolate from the other two sets of matches.

Thanks for pointing it out though.

[Hammertime]

Shame about Arteta missing out twice
But the extra ones for Kuyt and Rooney made up for it
Thanks Bram and others for the info

[Bramernic]

Shame about Arteta missing out twice
But the extra ones for Kuyt and Rooney made up for it
Thanks Bram and others for the info

I've reviewed the ones I got wrong again, so here's my view on why:

Kranjcar - Mwaruwari shot from too far out (just outside the D)
Arteta (Sat) - pass was slightly backwards, rolled and didn't take out any defenders (nothing to do with where Neville was)
Arteta (Mon) - can't understand this one, so asked about it:

Dear Bramernic

Thank you for your recent correspondence.

Artetas role in this goal been scored was not considered to be key enough to warrant a KC been awarded I'm afraid.

Kind regards

Have to say I'm disappointed with that interpretation. He hoisted the ball over the defence into the path of Neville running round the back. Neville then hit it first time to Osman who scored. It's extremely rare that I can't understand why a KC isn't given. I'm sorry to all those with Arteta who I gave false hope to ... twice!

[nathan8]

Dear Bramernic

Thank you for your recent correspondence.

Artetas role in this goal been scored was not considered to be key enough to warrant a KC been awarded I'm afraid.

Kind regards

Have to say I'm disappointed with that interpretation. He hoisted the ball over the defence into the path of Neville running round the back. Neville then hit it first time to Osman who scored. It's extremely rare that I can't understand why a KC isn't given. I'm sorry to all those with Arteta who I gave false hope to ... twice!

I'm disappointed with the grammar used by someone who works for a highly respected national newspaper

[Vsz]

Any chance of Rooney assist for Ronaldo's 1st?

Thought he might, his pass was key even though Solskjaer took some time before shooting.

[reds363]

It was 50/50 but I didn't predict Arteta a KC for yesterday, it's hard to explain why (particularly without a video here now) but I will say:

(a) granted, his pass did put Neville in space, but not really behind the defence, more level the backline out on the wing (which is not as often given as a kc - but then again Kuyt was given a bonus one yesterday )
(b) Neville's cross came back through many MCY players, rather than behind/over the defence, so the advantage Arteta gave Neville by finding him in space was not key to the goal.


I did think he'd get Saturday's one though and I'm sure they've given similar ones in the past (eg. corners played to the edge of the box, where a player scores direct).