Week 2 KCs and MotM Aug 22nd 23rd and Aug 26th 27th 28th

Post by **robbielee** » 24 Aug 2006, 09:10

snowy wrote:what time does TTFO update? (want to know if ronaldo got a KC for the 3rd goal)

I was thinking exactly the same thing, I think he probably will as his ball was certainly a key contribution, splitting the last line of defence to allow Saha to pull back the cross. However, in the past we've seen them not given and at other times given. I'm keeping my fingers crossed.

Post by **Crompton** » 24 Aug 2006, 09:29

I'll go for a Ronaldo KC

for me if Essien gets one for Shevchenko's goal for his pass to Bridge then Ronaldo must be in with a massive shout for one.

Post by **Bramernic** » 24 Aug 2006, 10:07

snowy wrote:what time does TTFO update? (want to know if ronaldo got a KC for the 3rd goal)

Yesterday it was done by 1055 (first time I looked) but it's not there yet today. It varies from day to day.

Post by **Onwards and upwards** » 24 Aug 2006, 10:23

Good on you Barton, this boy is going to be a points magnet this season (again)

Shame he doesn't play for a decent side though but nevertheless he'll be this years Nolan

Post by **brogie** » 24 Aug 2006, 10:24

Bramernic wrote:Aston Villa 2-1 Reading
Doyle (Ki Hyeon)
Angel (Moore)
Barry (Whittingham)

Blackburn 1-1 Everton
McCarthy (-)
Cahill (McFadden) I don't think Johnson actually touched it after seeing Cahill was in a much better position

Charlton 0-3 Man United
Fletcher (-)
Saha (-)
Solskjaer (Saha, poss Ronaldo*)

Fulham 1-1 Bolton
Diouf (-)
Bullard (-)

Man City 0-0 Portsmouth

Middlesbrough 2-1 Chelsea
Shevchenko (Essien, Bridge)
Pogatetz (Rochemback)
Viduka (Yakubu) I'm sure the deflection must be too great for a Downing KC

* This looks similar to the Reading goal on Saturday where only one KC was given, but again it clearly split the defence between Rodaldo and Saha. Also it is Man United we're talking about.

From TFFO daily points
Johnson - no assist
Ronaldo - Assist
Downing - assist

Post by **Bramernic** » 24 Aug 2006, 10:24

snowy wrote:what time does TTFO update? (want to know if ronaldo got a KC for the 3rd goal)

All as predicted, including Ronaldo and Essien, plus a bonus for Downing as well.

Post by **Mystery** » 24 Aug 2006, 12:04

Bramernic wrote:
snowy wrote:what time does TTFO update? (want to know if ronaldo got a KC for the 3rd goal)
All as predicted, including Ronaldo and Essien, plus a bonus for Downing as well.

Can't say I'm suprised although I wouldn't have exactly been livid if Downing hadnt got a KC. Yakubu's touch certainly significantly changed the direction of the ball but it didn't seem deliberate so I do think the choice was either 2 KCs or none.

Post by **Judio** » 24 Aug 2006, 13:32

CONSISTENCY

The balls from Ronaldo and Essien were identical

Downing's cross only got a slight deflection.

Well done GFM

Post by **Mystery** » 24 Aug 2006, 13:48

Judio wrote:Well done GFM

Hang on a minute - let's not get carried away here otherwise we'll have to find something else to moan about

Post by **tedbull** » 25 Aug 2006, 00:43

Did anyone else see the Everton match and think that McCarthy has just received 8 points for a goal?

I'm really starting to believe that if the game's not on Sky then the reporters don't bother going and just pick one of the goalscorers. There were many far more inportant players than McCarthy on the night. Aside from his goal he did nothing exceptional.

Bullshit.

Post by **thepole** » 25 Aug 2006, 11:27

Mystery wrote:
Judio wrote:Well done GFM
Hang on a minute - let's not get carried away here otherwise we'll have to find something else to moan about

Dont worry tedbull found something for us

Post by **chaser2k4** » 26 Aug 2006, 15:51

H/T - Watford vs Man Utd

Silvestre (Saha)
Francis (Young)

Post by **millrosss** » 26 Aug 2006, 15:55

Liverpool vs West Ham

Watched (with hangover) on Prem Plus

View on KCs

Zamora (-)
Agger (-)
Crouch (Garcia)

Great goal by Agger, Flukey goal by Zamora and lovely move finished by Crouch for the winner.

Post by **axel** » 26 Aug 2006, 17:59

Joey Barton 1-0 penalty (Trevor Sinclair KC)

Post by **TIMMY!** » 26 Aug 2006, 19:53

Aint seen goal but heard that Arteta free kick headed by lescott gone in off Davenport, that should be an arteta KC, Yes? If it wasnt davenport but another everton player he would get it so im assuming he will get it.

Anyone seen it?

Post by **strongo** » 26 Aug 2006, 20:02

watched the Watford game - can't see any KC being awarded for Giggs winner - MOM will be difficult one - no-one stood out at all.

Post by **Jester** » 26 Aug 2006, 20:03

axel wrote:Joey Barton 1-0 penalty (Trevor Sinclair KC)

No KC for this one - TS wasn't in control of the ball; not sure he even touched it?

Post by **dilwar** » 26 Aug 2006, 21:23

Watched the Arsenal game...

IMO Fabregas or Dickov will get MOM for the Arsenal game.

Agree about the Sinclair KC, he wasn't on the ball, very stupid challenge.

What a disaster weekend, not a single goal or KC in either of my 3 teams so far.

Have Pedersen and a couple of the usual Chelsea players to go tomorrow.

Post by **pottster** » 26 Aug 2006, 21:27

Hope you are right about Fabregas dilwar.

Depending on the results tomorrow it may turn out to be Ok as none of my teams have a had a complete disaster. Blackburn Chelsea game could yield a lot of points in low score week so could have a big impact.

Got Barton in a couple of teams and Saha is keeping things ticking over.
Sharner picked up some points today - got him in a couple of teams.

Putting a brave face on things!

Post by **The Saint** » 26 Aug 2006, 21:42

I watched the Arsenal vs Man City game and it could go to any number of players. Wouldn't be surprised if it was Dunne or Barton.

Post by **dgaughy** » 26 Aug 2006, 21:58

Having seen both games in whole:

MOTM: Watford vs Man Utd - Giggs
Man City vs Arsenal - Barton

And no, not because they both scored the winning goals, they were their teams best players respectively.

Post by **Bramernic** » 26 Aug 2006, 23:59

My view of todays likely KCs after watching MOTD:

*** Confirmed with TFFO ***

Watford 1-2 Man United
Silvestre (Saha)
Francis (Young)
Giggs (-)

Man City 1-0 Arsenal
Barton (Sinclair)

Liverpool 2-1 West Ham
Zamora (-)
Agger (-)
Crouch (Garcia)

Tottenham 0-2 Everton
Davenport og (Arteta, Lescott)
Johnson (Neville)

Charlton 2-0 Bolton
D Bent (-)
D Bent (Hasselbaink)

Wigan 1-0 Reading
Heskey (Scharner, McCulloch)

Fulham 1-0 Sheffield United
Bullard (-)

Edit to add 'likely' disclaimer to top line.

Post by **Bramernic** » 27 Aug 2006, 00:03

jester wrote:
axel wrote:Joey Barton 1-0 penalty (Trevor Sinclair KC)
No KC for this one - TS wasn't in control of the ball; not sure he even touched it?

A common misconception here - the word is possession, not control. He definitely did touch it so he was in possession.

Post by **pottster** » 27 Aug 2006, 10:15

KC for Scharner - bonus!

Post by **TheJaw** » 27 Aug 2006, 10:49

Bramernic wrote: Liverpool 2-1 West Ham
Crouch (Garcia)

For future reference why didn't Gerrard get an assist as well? Is it because Garcia had multiple touches?

Post by **SamD** » 27 Aug 2006, 11:26

Thanks to Judio, Bramernic and thelip for diligently posting team news, subs, goals, KCs & man/match facts and opinions here and in sister thread:
http://fantasyfootballuk.co.uk/viewtopi ... highlight=

To speculate on man/match theories further, these are The Observer's views re: Saturday's seven games.

Charlton 2-0 Bolton
Darren Bent - Saviour for Charlton. Steady supplier of goals without any fuss. Cool head enabled him to convert vital penalty in make-or-break match and secure the points with a second.

Fulham 1-0 Shef Utd
Jimmy Bullard - New Fulham hero, with Malbranque on way out. Buzzing presence in the middle, topping his play with a superb goal.

Liverpool 2-1 W Ham
Steven Gerrard - Metronomic consistency. Drove home side on when they lacked self-belief, tackled back when needed most and peppered West Ham goal with shots when attacking options dried up. One Liverpool player for whom squad rotation will not be an issue.

Man C 1-0 Arsenal
Richard Dunne - Formed useful defensive partnership with Sylvain Distin in City's desperate efforts to hang on to three invaluable points.

Spurs 0-2 Everton
Mikel Arteta - His free-kick created first goal. Menace at set pieces and source of most of Everton's rare creative moments. Even when tackles are flying in he does not withdraw from game. Coped well when asked to switch roles after Kilbane's sending off.

Watford 1-2 Man U
Ryan Giggs - Celebrated 600th start in United colours with a winning goal wrought out of his intelligent reading of the game as much as his ability to make it count. Mature passing and movement stood out.

Wigan 1-0 Reading
Antonio Valencia - Wigan's new midfielder from Ecuador showed potential to become crowd favourite. He got from end to end well, bringing a fine save in the first half and getting back to block a shot at the end.

Are there worthwhile offers from other Sunday papers?

Post by **Bramernic** » 27 Aug 2006, 12:27

TheJaw wrote:
Bramernic wrote: Liverpool 2-1 West Ham
Crouch (Garcia)
For future reference why didn't Gerrard get an assist as well? Is it because Garcia had multiple touches?

That, and the fact that he didn't really split the defence. Generally speaking the middle player in a 2-KC move should either cross the ball immediately or take just one touch to control it, otherwise the first pass can't be seen as key to the goal being scored.

IMPORTANT NOTE
Just in case there is any doubt, I am not on the panel of KC judges and their decisions have either yet to be made, or are yet to be made public. Therefore it is unlikely that Gerrard will get one, but we can't say he didn't get one until TFFO updates tomorrow. Likewise, the Scharner KC is a distinct possibility, but don't quote it as definite until the post says confirmed by TFFO. Thanks.

Post by **Striker** » 27 Aug 2006, 13:49

SamD wrote:The Observer's views re: Saturday's seven games.

Liverpool 2-1 W Ham
Steven Gerrard - Metronomic consistency. Drove home side on when they lacked self-belief, tackled back when needed most and peppered West Ham goal with shots when attacking options dried up.

Gerrard had an excellent game, but anyone who was actually watching the game and didn't give MOM to John Pantisil (or something like that), has poor eysight.

Post by **chaser2k4** » 27 Aug 2006, 14:21

dgaughy wrote:Having seen both games in whole:

MOTM: Watford vs Man Utd - Giggs
Man City vs Arsenal - Barton

And no, not because they both scored the winning goals, they were their teams best players respectively.

Has to be dunne every corner throw in long ball he headed away , he was excellent!

Post by **reds363** » 27 Aug 2006, 14:35

Bramernic wrote:My view of todays likely KCs after watching MOTD:

Wigan 1-0 Reading
Heskey (Scharner, McCulloch)

I would like Scharner to get one, but I can see both these KCs being harshly ruled out by the defenders slight touch (especially considering the two Reading ones that weren't given last week).

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