KCs and MotM for Week 1 Aug 19th and 20th
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TFF award points to whoever is credited with scoring the goal at the final whistle. That is decided by the PA representative at the match. If the goal is subsequently awarded to someone else (of either side) it has no bearing on TFF points, just like if a red card is rescinded (eg possibly Todd) the player still loses 5 points in TFF. It's all in the T&Cs.
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- Red & Blue Braces
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Quite simple.....if the original shot on goal is on target.....and it hits a defender, it NOT an OG.If its off target and goes in because of the deflection it is an OG. In this case, NO OG!!!Jameselaprendi wrote:The rio own goal is described as follows:
Heidar Helguson's goal boundshot from outside the area hits United's Rio Ferdinand square in the chest and loops over Edwin van der Sar.
Could be one for the Premiership's famous Dubious Goals Committee to decide on, but Helguson's the favourite.
So what is the expert opinion? And how does it work in TFF? Is it what the goals commitee decide?
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Haven't seen the goal but if Saha's shot was saved by the keeper it would negate any other player from getting a KC.gilva18 wrote:Goal 3 - Surely a KC for Nevilles wicked inswinging cross resulting in Sahas blocked effort falling to Rooney?Judio wrote:So Far
MAN U 4 FULHAM 0
Saha (Giggs)
Og Pearce (Saha)
Rooney (Saha)
Ronaldo (Rooney)
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I thought they'd changed thatgreenman wrote:gilva18 wrote:Goal 3 - Surely a KC for Nevilles wicked inswinging cross resulting in Sahas blocked effort falling to Rooney?Judio wrote:So Far
MAN U 4 FULHAM 0
Saha (Giggs)
Og Pearce (Saha)
Rooney (Saha)
Ronaldo (Rooney)
Haven't seen the goal but if Saha's shot was saved by the keeper it would negate any other player from getting a KC.
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Rule states:anon1086 wrote:I thought they'd changed thatgreenman wrote:gilva18 wrote:Goal 3 - Surely a KC for Nevilles wicked inswinging cross resulting in Sahas blocked effort falling to Rooney?Judio wrote:So Far
MAN U 4 FULHAM 0
Saha (Giggs)
Og Pearce (Saha)
Rooney (Saha)
Ronaldo (Rooney)
Haven't seen the goal but if Saha's shot was saved by the keeper it would negate any other player from getting a KC.
“Key Contribution” means (in relation to scoring points) when one of your selected players makes a significant contribution to a goal scored by his football club. No Key Contribution is given to a player who simply touches the ball sideways from a free kick, or to the penalty taker when penalties are saved or come back off the woodwork before a goal is scored. Also, if during a pass to a team mate that results in a goal, an opposing player significantly alters the speed or direction of the ball, then no Key Contribution is given. If a goalkeeper does not have control of the ball and parries a shot or drops a cross or the ball rebounds off the woodwork, the attacking player shooting or crossing the ball receives the Key Contribution if a goal directly ensues. In the event of a penalty, the player in possession of the ball when fouled for the penalty gets a Key Contribution if it is successfully scored, but not if he takes it himself in which case no Key Contribution is given. No Key contribution is given for a player who earns a free kick that subsequently results in a goal. A Key Contribution may be awarded for an own goal."
Not clear but I read it as only the person whose shot is parried gets the KC.
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Unfortunately whatever the moral justification it is the rules which decide. see above.gilva18 wrote:I know these things get debated so much but........Nevilles cross was a contribution to the goal. Without that cross there would not have been a goal so it was a key pass. As both 'contribution' and 'key' have been used....3 points thank you!!!!!
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No, it was way off target until it got a deflection so it should go down as an OG. It would have gone closer to the corner flag than the goal. The dubious goals committee will probably take it off him but he'll still get the 5 points in TFF as it has been given to him at the time.gilva18 wrote:Looked on target to me......Gedz wrote:So Andy Johnson's goal yesterday was an OG then?Quite simple.....if the original shot on goal is on target.....and it hits a defender, it NOT an OG.If its off target and goes in because of the deflection it is an OG. In this case, NO OG!!!
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There IS no difference!! Both ARE goals, neither is an own goal! I have viewed both on skyplus over and over and both are on target when struck.Striker wrote:I don't understand the difference between the Andy Johnson goal and the Ferdinand OG. Similar effect - but different judgements. Can someone explain.
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Well, you must be blind then. Andy Johnson's would definately NOT have gone in without the deflection.
To be honest I think it should only be classed as an own goal if the player actually makes an attempt to play the ball. If it's a shot that a player can't avoid, it should just be classed as a deflection. So neither Andy Johnson's or Ferdinand's should have been own goals. Whereas Ian Pearce's today was an OG.
To be honest I think it should only be classed as an own goal if the player actually makes an attempt to play the ball. If it's a shot that a player can't avoid, it should just be classed as a deflection. So neither Andy Johnson's or Ferdinand's should have been own goals. Whereas Ian Pearce's today was an OG.
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My view of today's KCs after watching MOTD2:
*** all confirmed as correct on TFFO ***
Chelsea 3-0 Man City
Terry (Robben)
Lampard (-)
Drogba (Robben, Bridge)
Man United 5-1 Fulham
Saha (Giggs)
Pearce og (Saha)
Rooney (Neville, Saha)
Ronaldo (Rooney)
Ferdinand og (Helguson)
Rooney (Brown)
*** all confirmed as correct on TFFO ***
Chelsea 3-0 Man City
Terry (Robben)
Lampard (-)
Drogba (Robben, Bridge)
Man United 5-1 Fulham
Saha (Giggs)
Pearce og (Saha)
Rooney (Neville, Saha)
Ronaldo (Rooney)
Ferdinand og (Helguson)
Rooney (Brown)
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