TFF 2019/2020

[LenH]

Fair enough and agreed!

Bodes well.

[Jamjack]

Currently in conversation with the Telegraph:

Hello there. Very disappointed regarding the five team limit. Myself and a great number of others play in private leagues with many weird and wonderful rules and restrictions. These teams have no chance of winning the big prizes but have allowed us to enjoy entertaining, interesting and competitive mini leagues for many years . With the five team restriction this will sadly no longer be possible. Can anything be done to remedy this unfortunate situation?

Hi Chris, can you share a few examples?

Thanks for getting back. We compete in leagues that have restrictions on budget i:e just 40 million, numbers of transfers, transfer restriction such as none to be used until 1st January, no players from the top six finishing teams from last season, leagues where all managers have to start off with the same (very poor) team and many more besides. As you can see it would be difficult to put one of your 5 season long teams in any of these leagues and still have any chance of competing in the main competition.

Fingers crossed.

After asking for an update I've had a reply:

Hi Chris, bit of background - it was important to a lot of our players that we create a more of a level playing field for the main league / prizes, hence the restriction. However, I would also draw your attention to rule 3.2: "Managers must not register teams in other names or with multiple email addresses in an attempt to unfairly increase their chances of winning prizes. Managers found to be controlling more than five teams under more than one name in the Competition may have all teams under their control removed from the Competition and/or may not be eligible to win any prizes."
In other words, if you really have no intention of competing for those main prizes and just want to compete in side leagues with your own rules, there's no reason not to run another 5 teams using a second email address.



So we should be okay as long as we are rubbish.

Big sigh. Talk about missing the point. At least you got a response. Can I ask how you contacted them Spiny? I can only see the option of using the “contact us” on the app rather than an email address. I feel my app submissions are just flying off into the ether.

[Spinynorman]

Big sigh. Talk about missing the point. At least you got a response. Can I ask how you contacted them Spiny? I can only see the option of using the “contact us” on the app rather than an email address. I feel my app submissions are just flying off into the ether.

I was messaging via Facebook.

[Jamjack]

Thanks Spiny. I don’t exist in that world. Maybe I’ll have to write a letter

[murf]

Thanks Spiny. I don’t exist in that world. Maybe I’ll have to write a letter

Not many of us over (40?)s do and so we are invisible to TFF. They have only cared about the modern generation for years, hence the demise in income and, as a result, the game itself.....

[Darbyand]

Thankfully you've got Young Turks like Spiny to be a voice.

Courtesy of Bramernic, here's the ppm with 2019/20 prices divided by the 2018/19 points.

[Jamjack]

I don’t want you getting the wrong impression of me. I’m all over Instabook and whatschat. I’m not getting old....

[happyhoppy]

I don’t want you getting the wrong impression of me. I’m all over Instabook and whatschat. I’m not getting old....

Do you tweet her?

[blahblah]

I don’t want you getting the wrong impression of me. I’m all over Instabook and whatschat. I’m not getting old....

Do you tweet her?

What about Snapface?

[murf]

Thankfully you've got Young Turks like Spiny to be a voice.

Courtesy of Bramernic, here's the ppm with 2019/20 prices divided by the 2018/19 points.

...and I saw PVA being derided on an RMT thread as poor value!

contact me on whatsafaceslashtagmurf

[Spinynorman]

"Young Turk".

..........I like it.

[Jamjack]

I don’t want you getting the wrong impression of me. I’m all over Instabook and whatschat. I’m not getting old....

Do you tweet her?

What about Snapface?

Quite a change of subject but again with age, I find I tweet her less and less. Special occasions you know... It’s mutual thing.

[Spinynorman]

Still can't get to the web site via tablet.

[tamagotchi massacre]

Why do so many people play FPL? I tried it one season and thought it was shit. You'd think there might be room for another game with heritage moving to limited free entry and at least some cash prizes. I'm guessing they've cornered that market though.

What didn't you like about it? There's stuff I don't like but wondered what your objections were.

It's a few years ago now but what springs to mind from the game itself was that everyone picked two rubbish goalkeepers then just rotated their home games, captain points, fluctuating prices, wildcards and a Friday deadline for picking your team for the weekend. Is that generally still the case? There's nothing wrong with those things per se and I imagine FPL players would see their absence as a weakness in another game. They're just not for me.

But the biggest thing was when I learned of the existence of the "crack the code" thread, what it was for and what it involved. Once I stopped laughing at that and how far away it (like a version of stock trading iirc?) was from what I think fantasy football should be about, I sacked it off quickly.

My feelings on playing FPL were pretty similar. The concept of varying prices seems good initially but the 'necessity' to be super anal and follow the CTC route and focus on money over goals etc just stops it being what, to me, FF should be all about.

I'm not averse to captains and squads (loved TFFO) but found the single weekly transfer too much of a straightjacket. Don't think chips were around when I played but I hate the idea of them. Also the idea of ripping your team up and starting again with a wildcard (twice!) is plain ludicrous and goes against everything FF should be about (slowly moulding a team).

Focusing on money over goals and using your valuable free transfers and points to chase rises and avoid drops can be a folly. It's just another aspect to the game and ultimately it's about identifying the rare cases where not acting on the flux can really hurt you. I find the need to keep an eye on prices no more, probably less annoying than TFFs change to a transfer anytime policy. At least with price rises they only occur once daily and it's well after bedtime

What is with TFF and its website. It's absolutely awful again. Compared to the third party FPL app which is a dream to use.

I also think TFFs days are feeling numbered. Had they not changed to transfer anytime i'd be kind of gutted as we've mostly been playing it since as far back as the 1990s (we now actually use it for just the software to manage our self-run auction game). But that change ruined it for me and I'm much more of a fan of FPL'S single deadline and subs bench

[t.gridley]

£250 for second place, hardly worth spending a lot of time on even if it is free, FF appears to be in its death throes, thank god I won a few quid before it’s demise.

[12345678]

it feels very much like a ytm/mirror situation, those with long memories will know the story, looks like the balance of daily fantasy vs seasonal has changed forever!

maybe no bad thing, sometimes thing have to or need to change.

at least the sun is still there!

would never have thought i would be saying that a few years back!

I enjoyed the Daily star game , and to a lesser degree the Daily mirror in the early days.i remember the mirror teaming up with a then new company betway,, was the beginning of the end of that game,

Ive always said in life to find out what your customers want take their advice on board, gfm dont and im afraid wont.

for me they took on board some advice from surveys completed by a very small skewed sample. not the smartest idea, but the real damage in my view was increasingly bad game design making it a defensive bore fest with dodgy random passes sometimes getting +3 when a goal only got +5. the lack of definition and seemingly shift in scoring of the secondary KC which simply weren't in most instances must have been an annoyance to other players as well as me.

at present it looks like daily/weekend etc pay to play fantasy footy is the future, something gfm & telegraph could easily have got into and made profitable if they were not so blinkered.

as 'cocker' said we don't know how many problems were down to each party and are left to guess as neither will admit responsibility but one thing for sure is that they have made a hell of a hash of things! with the popularity of short term pay to play fantasy games the 'pay option' excuse for their failure simply does not wash as the whole or even primary reason for failure.

[murf]

Are short term pay to play games that popular?

I can see why game providers want to make them so (rapid, repeat income) but they don't appeal to me at all and barely get a mention on FISO.

[Maldini]

Not fantasy football for me. They’re just another way to gamble.

[12345678]

popular in america, e.g. draft kings, really unsure if anyone will break the uk/european market but might be very profitable if they can!

[Striker]

Not saying they won't catch on here, but a key reason in the USA for their popularity is that in some states it's far easier and more legal to play fantasy than straightforward betting on football.

[Latic]

So, TFF are now promoting a fantasy Bet pay game...

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/fantasy-spo ... PODJDHvmGo

Haven't the time to study it just now.

[morganb]

Jimenez has turned red - evidently this implies he is injured. The website even says players unavailable 1. But where does it give details of the injury / return date? (am using website on phone).

[murf]

Jimenez has turned red - evidently this implies he is injured. The website even says players unavailable 1. But where does it give details of the injury / return date? (am using website on phone).

Wasn't working for me the other day either. Usual issues because they tried to make a functional website 'better'. Same as every year.

Jiminez looks like a minor issue but worth watching....

[Kentish Womble]

So Pep really rates Foden who doesn’t start and comes on with a minute left! Unless he is not totally fit then

[murf]

So Pep really rates Foden who doesn’t start and comes on with a minute left! Unless he is not totally fit then

Just for his penalty taking ability and his calmness in standing next to Pep for 5 minutes while waiting to come on. That was some seriously rateable standing.

[SamD]

Blatant advert for FISO's three longest running TFF cash leagues …
Entry deadline imminent. See individual thread for details.

Roll of Honour of Fiso TFF cash leagues in operation for 10+ years

1. FISO TFF£25 2019-20 = Season Fifteen

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         Format             One team each
         Fee                £25; payment deadline Thurs 8 Aug
                LAST YEAR:
                     Teams  27
           Overall SL rank  19th; best was 2nd in 07-08 & 10-11
                Prize fund  £675; paid to top three and cup winner

                 CHAMPIONS  2018-19  Ed Jones           jonesbones
                            2017-18  Dean Burdin        djburdini
                            2016-17  Thomas Lovell      Jackpot
                            2015-16  David Nuttie       Hotpot
                            2014-15  Geoff Pryor        blessedbrian
                            2013-14  Ross Gillan        gmoney7
                            2012-13  David Browne       Striker
                            2011-12  Ed Jones           jonesbones
                            2010-11  Mark Kendall       adamia
                            2009-10  Bruce Baer         The Bear
                            2008-09  John Hunt          JHT
                            2007-08  Matthew Doheny     Pasty
                            2006-07  Iain Bruce         Razorback
                            2005-06  Sam David          SamD

             Current chair  Darbyand

Game thread viewtopic.php?f=136&t=130551

2. Two-Foot Challenge 2019-20 = Season Eleven

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         Format             Two teams each; use different strategies to sustain interest
         Fee                £22 (total for two XIs); entry deadline Thurs 8 Aug
                LAST YEAR:
                     Teams  66  (33 managers)
           Overall SL rank  9th; best was 2nd prize in 2012-13
                Prize fund  £726 distributed to first five in league & both cup finalists

                 CHAMPIONS  2018-19  Bruce Baer        The Bear
                            2017-18  Thomas Lovell      Jackpot
                            2016-17  Thomas Lovell      Jackpot
                            2015-16  David Nuttie       Hotpot
                            2014-15  Julian Clements    Knulpuk
                            2013-14  Geoff Pryor        blessedbrian
                            2012-13  Steve Legg         reds363
                            2011-12  Julian Clements    Knulpuk
                            2010-11  Steve Legg         reds363
                            2009-10  Chris Beasley      Spinynorman
                     Chair  SamD

Game thread viewtopic.php?f=136&t=130461

3. FISO Tenner League 2019-20 = Season Eleven

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         Format             One team per manager
         Fee                £10; deadline 20:00 Fri 9 Aug
                LAST YEAR:
                     Teams  55
           Overall SL rank  19th
                Prize fund  £550 total to top three and cup winner

                 CHAMPIONS  2018-19  Nigel Walker       derbynigel
                            2017-18  David Browne       Striker
                            2016-17  David Browne       Striker
                            2015-16  Simon Allen        Sim
                            2014-15  Andy Britton       Buster
                            2013-14  Gregory Wright     bigsheff
                            2012-13  Andy Edwards       andye
                            2011-12  Mike McClelland    cleski
                            2010-11  Paul Hopkins       happyhoppy
                            2009-10  Andy Britton       Buster
                     Chair  Jester

Game thread viewtopic.php?f=136&t=130450

[murf]

Is anybody else having problems (/success) doing 'transfers' at the moment??

I can click and get rid of a player but it won't let me click on any replacements to bring them in.

(On website using IE, not App)


Also it seems to say a lot of players are 'unavailable' (injured?) but it won't display info like it did for injuries last year. Got 2 in one auto-selected team who I thought were OK (Pogba and Tarkowski)......

[get_on_my_cocker]

Is anybody else having problems (/success) doing 'transfers' at the moment??

I can click and get rid of a player but it won't let me click on any replacements to bring them in.

(On website using IE, not App)

You'll probably need to get rid of IE, mate. I think Microsoft are no longer providing support for it, and are pushing their new browser "Edge". You're probably better off changing to Chrome.

[murf]

Usual story of smug web developers getting new software working on their high spec machines and favourite browsers and not caring about the users and what they want.

[muldoon]

Hello again everyone, its that time of year again

I won my mini league last year so aiming for back-to-back titles this time

@murf its working fine for me (website using Chrome). Can't say I'm a fan of the website, but I say that most years

And the prize money is a joke, winning a mini league is probably going to be more lucrative than coming second overall, that's pretty embarrassing for TFF towers

I am glad about them limiting teams , though 5 is still too many for me as I'm a dedicated single entrant.

TFF have obviously tightened up on the pricing this year, as I think its been hard work picking a team I'm happy with this time around. I can't see the big name strikers being worth it so I've ended up on 4-5-1 and rocking a total CK from the start, but I rate Pulisic and think he'll be great in the premiership.

So barring any last minute tinkers and being tempted by any last minute transfer dealings, I'm all set to go into the season with:

Ederson
Coleman Chilwell TAA Maguire
Sterling Salah Pulisic Maddison Lanzini
Wilson

Good luck everyone and roll on the weekend.